Talk:Moskau (song)

YTMND

I'm going to keep restoring the YTMND reference everytime it's removed. Myself, and I'm sure many other people, would have never heard about this song if it wasn't for YTMND. It was in the original article and I think it should stay. I don't think that having a single sentence about a popular internet humour site will 'destroy the sanctity of Wikipedia'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.60.78 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 17 December 2005

I would highly encourage you not to do so, seeing as there is a huge chance that that involves causing violations to WP:3RR. I would also like to argue that when references to internetgeeksites like YTMND begin to appear, Wikipedia won't be "destroyed because of declining sanctity" or anything like that, but serious damage will be taken by its credibility as a serious attempt to try and become the world's most comprehensive encyclopedia. -- SoothingR^(pour) 18:09, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Honestly if Wikipedia wants to be credible it wouldn't have an article on a obscure song by a 70s-80s German disco group to begin with.--Virulent 78 19:15, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Dschinghis Khan was not nearly as obscure in Germany. YTMND only has one (rather obscure) link on the first page of a Google search of "dschinghis kahn moskau" (no quotation marks), so I would not include a reference to it, especially since it is copyright violation. YTMND does damage the credibility of Wikipedia, and they have frequently vandalized it for stupid purposes. --DJH47 21:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Just because a small group of immature people who frequent YTMND.com do stupid things, doesn’t make the site itself less relevant or noteworthy. You need to separate the site itself from the small segment of its fanbase who are responsible for vandalism and drop this asinine crusade to remove all traces of YTMND.com from Wikipedia. The fact of the matter is that part of Moskau’s resurgence in popularity is due to it being a popular fad on YTMND.com and is worth a mentioning in the article. The fact that a small segment of YTMND.com users are Wikipeida vandals have nothing to do with it.--Virulent 78 22:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The point remains, Wikipedia's credibility suffers under the load of YTMND-references. They make the encyclopedia look immature and they are copyvios (and Wikipedia has firm policies towards that). So you're right, the segment of YTMND.com users that are also Wikipedia vandals have nothing to do with the matter at hand. -- SoothingR^(pour) 09:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

One could argue that having internet fad listings in general makes Wikipedia look immature. My view is that either internet fad/meme material gets the same respect as other material on Wikipedia or it should not be included at all. I don’t see any copyright violation, due to fact that the actual YTMND.com page is not even linked to in the article. The only thing that is there is a single sentence stating that the Moskau song/video is a popular fad on YTMND.com which is true. (Whether the actual Moskau YTMND is a copyright violation is a whole different debate that I don’t wish to get into). Other people besides myself has taken to the task of restoring the YTMND.com reference after I had begun to initiate dialogue here, which shows that other people share my viewpoint. I am more than willing to lay off any further edits until this dispute is resolved.--Virulent 78 15:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Possible Compromise? Please read Talk:Dschinghis Khan. Hopefully this will be the end of this silly dispute.--Virulent 78 04:40, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

1980 Olympics Theme Song

What I would like to know is who wrote that the song was the theme song for the 1980 Moscow Olympics? Where did they get that information? It doesn't make much sense because at that time that was not something likely to happen, seeing as the Soviet Union had such negative relation with FRG and the song could be viewed as anti-Soviet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.23.100.173 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 21 September 2006

I have the same question. From Wikipedia's own page about 1980 Moscow Olympics is a link to a page in Russian about the theme songs: http://80.ruz.net/pesni.htm. While I don't know Russian and can't understand that page, I doubt Moskau is in there. — Ming Hua 06:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I can absolutely tell you that it was not the '80 Olympics theme song, and there was no way they would be invited to perform. When the song has first appeared, the Soviet propagand machine went full steam, labeling it "anti-soviet" and "a capitalist attack at the soviet lifestyle". The record spread throughout the country under the table. I was 12 at the time and clearly remeber, how we were whispering to each other (ridiculous, as I can see it now) specualtions as of to what the song lyrics is about. A few years later though it's been widely played at the dances, but of course no official record has been released. I don't believe it made it to the public TV until early 90's — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.39.129 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 23 June 2007

I have added {{fact}} tags. While it's doubtful that someone can provide a credible reference to this, I'd be remiss not to assume good faith. If after a reasonable amount of time no one is able to cite this statement, it should be removed. --Kinu ^t/_c 05:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Translation

I added a link to a translation I did of the song. I think this should be okay. -Ich (talk) 06:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

English Version

There is no mention of the band's English version of the song (entitled "Moscow"), which has lyrics that differ from the direct translation of the German version. There is also no mention of the English version at Moscow. Which would be preferred?--Jeffro77 08:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

BTW, has anyone actually watched the Buffalax vid, it's just misheard german, not an actual translation. As stated above, an ACTUAL translation is available.Sagittarius Flame (talk) 03:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, this song was a Meme around 2004-2006 and should be recognized as such.62.199.202.65 (talk) 10:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I sure hope someone preserves this. Just another reason why Wikipedia has degenerated into a really crappy site. God forbid information and *GASP* an image show up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.142 (talk) 10:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Name of this page.

Why is this pages named Moscow? Also, why does it have the band listed as Genghis Khan when the correct name is Dschinghis Khan. I see on the Dschinghis Khan page that they are known as Dschinghis Khan "Within their native Germany" - I didn't think Wikipedia would use anything but their true and correct name, not something that they may go under in other countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BelziBhaal (talk • contribs) 21:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with your complaint. This article shouldn't be named thus, and it originally wasn't; User:Reinthal moved it from "Moskau (Dschinghis Khan song)" to "Moscow (Genghis Khan song)" two days before your post. I'm reverting the move and restoring the correct and original name. —Lowellian (reply) 02:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Edited out non-notable band

There was a reference in the covers section to this song being performed by The Last Alliance. They seem non-notable to me, so I removed it. EDIT - The reference was added again. Unless the cover is by a notable band, it should not be in here. My old band used to cover Redneck by Lamb of God, but as we were not notable, it has no place in an encyclopaedia article. If anyone can prove The Last Alliance's notability, please do, but do not add references for non-notable covers. Falkybassist (talk) 10:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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Updated references

I've updated the citation needed entriss with references from the Band Page, but I've realised that use of Discogs is unreliable due to WP:NOTRSMUSIC. Will have to find some better references.

"Only Light" by The Cat Empire

So it strikes me as pretty clear that "Only Light" by The Cat Empire is based on Moskau in some way. Does somebody want to corroborate this before I edit the page? Daniel J. Hakimi (talk) 01:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)