Talk:Murad Takla

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that generic term named Murad Takla has become popular in Bangladesh from 2012 means who writes Bangali on social media using English alphabet but does it completely and often hilariously wrong? Source: https://www.thedailystar.net/online/the-legend-murad-takla-origin-examples-and-other-issues-1365298

Created by Mehediabedin (talk). Self-nominated at 10:46, 10 December 2021 (UTC).

• The article is new enough and long enough (though stub tagged), but—ironically for this topic—the English is absolutely rough! I had to suggest new hook wording, not to mention repair the page. The hook sources seem to check out, though I cannot check others because I can't read or speak Bengali.

• ALT1: ... that in Bangladesh, the term Murad Takla refers to users who incorrectly write Bengali language using the Latin alphabet with unintentionally hilarious results?

However, I was also questioning the notability of the underlying topic, and some people I was consulting with on the page felt that it might not meet the general notability guideline. I also found some of the sources, including the hook source, to be flimsy (or even fluffy or humorous in tone). Are there better sources available, Mehediabedin? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Sammi Brie Many TV News showed report on Murad Takla. This term is famous in Bangladesh. But I don't know if I can present these sources here. Most sources are written in Bengali. Only two sources in English are available which I mentioned in the article. Mehedi Abedin 12:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Mehediabedin Non-English sources are acceptable as long as they are reliable. SL93 (talk) 07:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

SL93 The non-english sources I mentioned in the article are all from reliable newspaper and online newspaper website. We have even Prothom Alo, one of the most read and most reliable newspaper in Bangladesh. Mehedi Abedin 09:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Mehediabedin I have asked for assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh. SL93 (talk) 00:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I would question whether newsbangla24.com and banglaekattor.com are reliable (have a reputation for accuracy and fact-checking). However, the others (The Daily Star, The Business Standard, Kaler Kantho, Prothom Alo, Jugantor, Dhaka Tribune, Bangla Tribune, Daily Inqilab, and Jamuna TV) are reputable news organizations reliable for the sorts of things newspapers are usually reliable for. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I can replace banglaekattor.com source with reliable news report video source from RTV if it is permissible. Mehedi Abedin 06:50, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Mehediabedin: does that work? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 21:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Yes the link is active. Mehedi Abedin 10:11, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

My bad, I meant to ping Worldbruce theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

RTV is a reputable Bangladeshi media outlet. Personally, I strongly dislike relying on videos as sources because of accessibility and archiving problems, but Wikipedia permits it. If you find it necessary to cite a video, I hope you use {{cite AV media}} or otherwise indicate at what time mark within the video the supporting content is. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Did it. Thank you. Mehedi Abedin 15:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Sammi Brie, have your concerns been addressed? BlueMoonset (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the article looks good now and the sourcing seems good enough. AGF on the Bengali-language material. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie and Mehediabedin: I like ALT1, but explaining the whole phenomenon still does leave the hook a little wordy. This is a light internet phenomenon, so I'm thinking some punchier hooks might be available in other parts of the article. How would y'all feel about:

• ALT2: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "reminds me of you" might be interpreted as "mind farts in you"?
• ALT2a: ... that for a Murad Takla, writing "the Earth is spinning" might be interpreted as "the Earth is horse"?
• ALT3: ... that an internet term meant to refer to people who incorrectly transliterate Bengali language has spread awareness on the need for writing in the original alphabet?

I like ALT2 and ALT2a best, but they do rely on the translations added by the nominator, which might be a problem for DYK purposes? Let me know what you think! :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: I think ALT2 is best. What do you think @Sammi Brie:? Mehedi Abedin 09:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

ALT2 is great if it is right/it can be sourced, though I also understand the concern that theleekycauldron has. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: It is taken from a source of the article. Also the translation of the example is correct, I checked it. But if extra inspection is needed then we can ask an experienced wikipedian who knows bengali. Mehedi Abedin 20:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

[Extral comment] ALT2 is more interesting. But what source for the example we have shows only the example in normal and takla language (unintended language). The translation of the example isn’t added in the source. Do you think that the mentioned issue will create problem for DYK nomination? If so then I think ALT3 is best for business (The source of ALT2a explains the example with translation by a meme although). Mehedi Abedin 20:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I trust the source. I don't think it would be an issue, to be completely honest. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)