Talk:NCT (group)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as lacking sufficient context to identify its subject, because... (your reason here) --Jnp289818 (talk) 07:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

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Kim Donghyuck or Lee Donghyuck?

There seems to be an ongoing edit war regarding Haechan's birth name, is there a reliable source that establishes whether his surname is Kim or Lee? Yannaynay (talk) 22:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I added a source for Lee. The news article says he revealed this on V app. Random86 (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Random86 thank you! Yannaynay (talk) 10:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Lee Antonctword (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

lol Etherealchxr (talk) 07:04, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2016

Taeyong

Redface07 (talk) 03:04, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --MorbidEntree - _{(Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)}(please reply using {{ping}}) 03:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2016

Moon Taeil member external link Jnppp289818 (talk) 15:33, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Moon Taeil is a redirect. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:12, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2016

I would like to request that you add the ages of every member of NCT. This is a crucial part of a groups wikipedia page as a lot of new fans want to know how old they are. You can find their ages on this website. http://smboysgeneration.com/category/member-profiles-and-facts/

2604:2000:D088:8F00:AC58:85A9:B06:2F1A (talk) 22:40, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also per WP:BLP. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:53, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Taeil Official Member Of NCT U

On the official website here he is clearly listed as a member.He's just only singing in one song; that is the only difference between him and the other members. SM would NOT list an unoffial member (such as Kun) in the profile. Please edit the page so that it will be accurate. Ask around and Google it too.It was revealed officially by SM as an NCT U member. NCT'sJunkyard (talk) 04:40, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2017

KCON New York (2017) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxyanax (talk • contribs) 10:06, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2017

kcon '17 : Los Angeles,USA (Aug 19,2017)

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마크 & 재정 Lemonade

마크 and 박재정 had a collaboration but I'm unable to edit this Wikipedia page, is anyone else able to? 찐따 (talk) 02:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Content changes

NCT U does not have a fixed lineup as it represents NCT as a whole LolBot3000 (talk) 10:35, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2018

New members of NCT.

• Kun
• Lucas
• Jungwoo Jade.parker123 (talk) 20:21, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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Seperate Articles

With NCT successfully debuting as a full group and charting extremely high, would you say now it's time for the sub-units (NCT 127 and NCT Dream at least,) to get their own articles? They're very notable enough on their own.-NCT America (talk) 05:18, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, if no one says anything before tomorrow, I'mma assume it's okay.-NCT America (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

@NCT America: In my opinion, it's fine as long as they meet WP:NMG, which they did. Heolkpop (talk) 16:35, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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Sub-units section

Hello,

Before making any claims (Rotational vs. Fixed, Mark "graduating" from NCT Dream, etc.), can you please SOURCE your claims using a Reliable Source? Thank you!

Tibbydibby (talk) 04:41, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

NCT Dream page?

Dream's going to start rotating officially now, should they have their own page? It'll be hard for people to keep up without one. Especially since they are currently on this page with 127 and U.-K-popguardian (talk) 03:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

NCT China lineup possibly revealed. Do we take this seriously?

An image just surfaced of a new NCT unit group photo, mainly consisting of Chinese members. Should we take this seriously?: https://pm1.narvii.com/6980/a90d3023219978e2c1211caeeac3a288d63f9795r1-750-426v2_hq.jpg -K-popguardian (talk) 02:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2018

The wording in the following sentence is confusing, and the verb tenses used are incompatible, thus rendering the grammar incorrect:

"On May 2, 2018, NCT has become the top emerging musical act in the U.S. and marked the first time that a K-Pop act has led the list, reported by Billboard."

Additionally, the date listed on the Wikipedia page (May 2, 2018) is different from the one listed in the source (May 5, 2018). Please change the quoted sentence to:

"On May 5, 2018, NCT topped Billboard's Emerging Artists chart, marking the first time that a K-Pop act led the list." Ruju24 (talk) 04:11, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 03:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Renjun and Chenle

People are continuously ignoring the note at the bottom of "lineup" and keep adding Renjun and Chenle to China, despite me stating multiple times they aren't part of the lineup. Is there any other way to prevent them from doing so?-K-popguardian (talk) 01:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

NCT China

Hello I’m just wondering here, i know the leaked video was just showing some of them and ChenLe & RenJun was not there but could anyone edit that ChenLe and RenJun will still be joining please because they dyed their hair recently (maybe for a com back hmm).. Heheh thank you💞 Nctattack (talk) 09:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Until there's confirmation, no. Besides, they haven't even graduated yet. This could just be another Dream comeback for all we know.-K-popguardian (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

On the topic of NCT CHINA/Vision; should we even have a members list for NCT China yet? The picture was only a rumored line up that was never confirmed by SM and Xiao Jun Hendery and YangYang are not yet official NCT members according to SM's official site. as of Dec. 7, 2018. This also brings up the question of whether all male sm rookies should be immediately considered NCT of if we must wait for them to be officially announced as NCT members. I feel like it makes sense to go the second route because as we've seen in the past not every male sm rookie will debut as NCT (Hansol for example). I also feel as if this wikipedia page should not change with every rumor even if they seem very likly to be true and rely only on confirmed information so that people don't get misinformed.-Callmeashy (talk) 02:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Semi-protection on NCT

This article, NCT 127, NCT Dream, and NCT China are all subjects of a TON of vandalism over the last few weeks. Is it possible to protect the pages?-K-popguardian (talk) 02:18, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2019

change format of names by age Rialivana (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 03:38, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2019

Please remove Mark from NCT Dream's list under "Members." SM has confirmed he has graduated as of December 31st. In other words change:

NCT Dream – Mark, Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, and Jisung

to

NCT Dream – Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, and Jisung 76.174.35.70 (talk) 20:52, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 21:42, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/NCTsmtown_DREAM/status/1079711782774571008 -76.174.35.70 (talk) 05:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

76.174.35.70: See WP:KO/RS for the list of reliable sources for WikiProject Korea. Heolkpop (talk) 06:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Complete article revision

NCT 127, NCT Dream, and WayV all are subunits with their own pages now. Yet a vast amount of their info are on the main group page. is that really still necessary with all these articles that already exist? Other than EXO, no other article maps out all their subunit's activities on the main page. Should there be a mass cleanup?-K-popguardian (talk) 19:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. There is no significant difference from these subunits that make them distinct from NCT (band), I think the relevant content can be merged. Evaders99 (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

WayV

I would like to point out that neither the group nor SM have officially confirmed that WayV are part of NCT's system. I don't think Wikipedia should add them based on fan speculations and media assumptions. It doesn't matter what excuses you want to use but Wikipedia works with reliable sources so until they are offcially introduced as part of NCT we shouldn't include them.--2A02:8108:1300:2D60:973:CAA4:E10A:3124 (talk) 18:38, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

SM referred to them as NCT China for a vast majority of last year, and all members are a part of NCT. However, they are part of Label V, which is seperate from SM, and therefore, all promotions are handled by Label V and not SM, so of course they are not part of any SM activities. Another thing worth noting is 2 of the 3 songs in the EP are by NCT 127. If this was not previously announced, I would understand. But since July last year, SM has teased them as NCT China.-K-popguardian (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Please show me where exactly SM has announced these members, this unit called Way V as part of NCT? I'm not talking about the rumors and speculations about NCT China. SM also has teased NCT China in 2016 but some of the current Way V members weren't even trainees back then or had just joined so again it doesn't matter who teased what. This is Wikipedia and not a fan forum. I would like to hear the opinion of an admin.--2A02:8108:1840:1474:DC80:BF64:FBDA:3181 (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/SMTOWNGLOBAL/status/1028803823723114496

http://m.businesspost.co.kr/BP?command=mobile_view&num=98821#cb

https://entertain.naver.com/now/read?oid=109&aid=0003929238

https://twitter.com/SMTOWNGLOBAL/status/1079568073764397056

Also, notice that they say "long-awaited" even though this is the first introduction of WayV. And these "fan sources" being used on NCT and WayV's page are ALL reliable sources on Wikipedia's list, all saying that WayV is NCT. And stop talking like an admin, you come across as demanding and rude.-K-popguardian (talk) 03:49, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Literally NONE of these sources confirms that WayV is part of NCT. Neither SM nor NCT have yet to mention that these two groups are part of NCT's system and until then they shouldn't be mentioned here.This is a Wikipedia article, not Wikia or some kind of fansite. There is no use to talk to you, I'll contact an admin myself.--2A02:8108:1840:1474:5978:B972:3F4A:1CED (talk) 18:45, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your polite professionality. I'm sure they will enjoy it as much as I do. -K-popguardian (talk) 19:46, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2019

On September 3, NCT Dream released their second EP We Go Up with the lead single of the same name.[67] SM confirmed that Mark would be leaving NCT Dream on December 31st.[68] Rhoeoy (talk) 23:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Please change SM confirmed that Mark would be leaving NCT Dream after completing promotions for the release.

to SM confirmed that Mark would be leaving NCT Dream on December 31st. Rhoeoy (talk) 23:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Already done This change seems to be already done. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 17:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2019

EITHER: Add WAYV-exclusive members to all lists of NCT members, since WAYV is described on the page as an official subunit. This includes the graph. OR: Remove WAYV all mentions of WAYV as a subunit. Itskrit (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ℯxplicit 06:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2019

Add new members that joined in 2019. Annonymouscookie101 (talk) 23:02, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism

Can we please get this article protected? People keep adding different members Finnybug (talk) 11:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

• @Finnybug: You can request at WP:RFPP 94rain ^Talk 11:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2019

NCT have new NCT Dream members that will be joining. Their names are unknown, but nctizens (NCT fans) are hoping HRVY or Jason Derulo will join. Morklee (talk) 00:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

We don't add unsourced fan speculation/fantasies. Evaders99 (talk) 04:29, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Funny how you say you won't add fan speculation/fantasies when you literally have added WayV here when literally no reliable source have mentioned them as part of NCT.--2A02:8108:1840:1474:8485:F1EB:BC8C:80C1 (talk) 20:23, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/dulcecocos/status/1141529879118274561/video/1 watch this video, NCT and WayV are connected.-06:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)K-popguardian (talk)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2019

Jason Derulo 47.34.192.66 (talk) 20:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 01:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2020

I noticed that NCT 127's May 23, 2018, Japanese ep Chain isn't included in the article and was hoping it could be added to the history section. A source would be https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/k-town/8455157/nct-127-japanese-single-chain-video 2600:1702:1D80:B2F0:6D3C:100C:F0B1:A1BB (talk) 02:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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Jeno & Jaemin as NCT U

Jeno & Jaemin joined NCT U for a performance at KBS Mid-year festival. Does this count as an official debut? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.15.252.137 (talk) 06:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

At this point all of nct members are considered as nct u, so their debut in that unit is not important anymore Nctjsc (talk) 13:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed page move

To editor Seventyfiveyears: Hi, and thank you for your edits! I have removed the PROD deletion requests from the two redirects, Neo Culture Technology and Neo Culture Tech, because the correct way to propose a page move is to open a move request here on this talk page. "NCT" appears to be the common name of this group, so other editors should be allowed to give their opinions about a page move. Let me know if you need help with this. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 15:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I will try the one you suggested tomorrow. And then hopefully that one should work good enough. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 02:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I tried to open a move request, but it was reverted. Someone who reverted the request noted that it should be filed properly, but what does it mean to file properly? Also, I may be having trouble of opening a move request. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 11:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

In this case I think the editor meant that you should open a requested move on this talk page. The procedure to open a move request can be found at WP:RM#CM. Let me know if you need more help, I'm glad to do it. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 12:47, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I filed the request properly. Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests to see why I needed to move NCT (group) to Neo Culture Technology. Thank you, 18:20 at 15 July 2020 Seventyfiveyears

You do not have to go to the page I gave out earlier anymore. The request was already accepted by another user. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 02:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@Seventyfiveyears: Just to clarify a few things, I'm a page mover, not an administrator. Also, although I initially moved the page per your WP:RMTR request, I reversed that page move shortly afterwards, after noticing this thread in the talk page while doing my post-move cleanup and realizing that it really should have had a proper WP:RM discussion, which I then started as a contested technical request. OhKayeSierra (talk) 02:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I didn’t know that. Thanks for telling me though. Seventyfiveyears at 08:02, 16 July 2020

Requested move 16 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move. (non-admin closure) — YoungForever^(talk) 19:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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NCT (group) → Neo Culture Technology – NCT (group) stands for Neo Culture Technology, so the NCT band primary page should be titled Neo Culture Technology, while the page NCT (group) should be a redirect. Neo Culture Technology is the full name for the NCT band. NCT has various abbreviations. Thank you, Seventyfiveyears 18:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). OhKayeSierra (talk) 00:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Opening discussion on this page move, in light of the thread above that objected to moving the page. OhKayeSierra (talk) 00:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. The group's official name is NCT. It's an acronym. And? That's not a valid reason to move the page. ƏXPLICIT 03:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - they commonly go by NCT, their subgroups use NCT, their websites use NCT, many sources use NCT. This is clearly the common name here. i.e. IBM is still the acronym for International Business Machines and it's what Wikipedia uses. Evaders99 (talk) 06:23, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Literally all reliable sources and branding refer to the group as just "NCT". The OP's weak justification is not based on any Wikipedia policy here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 05:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - NCT is clearly WP:COMMONNAME. --Ashleyyoursmile! 10:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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NCT U

Should we really have NCT U members credited in the table and timeline? The concept of NCT U is that any member can be in the lineup as long as they fit the concept. As it stands a majority of the NCT members shown in the chart are in NCT U, and even then they can be rotated in and out for other members. For all we know, every member could eventually be in NCT U. - K-popguardian (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

The table I think is fine, as while maybe the categorization will become pointless at some point in the future, if all the members participate in it and thus there is no need to distinguish who has and hasn't been a member, that is not the case now. Just because there is potential for every member to be in the sub-unit, it doesn't mean they will, and we can't predict if or when it will happen, so it's fine to distinguish the membership of the sub-unit for now. I think the timeline as it is isn't particularly useful for having NCT U on it, because it shows members as if they are continuously in the sub-unit once they join, which isn't how it works. I think that NCT U membership could be eliminated from the timeline, but I think it could be more useful to change the formatting of the NCT U membership, to be the same way that Mark's membership in NCT Dream is handled, which is to show when they joined, departed, joined again, and so on, based on the sub-unit's membership for their releases. Nangears (talk) 21:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Well SM released more info on the NCT U lineups on the album. Not even half of them are revealed yet, and so far, only 3 of the 23 NCT members aren't in NCT U. The 3 members in question, Jaemin, Jisung, and Ten, have all been confirmed to be performing on the title track of NCT 2020 Resonance Pt. 2 as part of NCT U. So yes, it looks like for NCT 2020, all 23 members will be part of NCT U for once. - K-popguardian (talk) 01:19, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, Ten should already be marked in the table, as he was a member for its initial formation. Jaemin has also performed as part of NCT U, although not for an official track release, but it really just leaves Jisung as the only member who has not. Is it confirmed they will release the title track as NCT U? For their previous project, "Black on Black" was released under the group name NCT 2018, with most of the other songs on the album being released under NCT U, has it been confirmed they won't do the same for the title track for NCT 2020? It is likely that he will appear in some NCT U formation, but I don't think there is confirmation for that as of yet. Nangears (talk) 01:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm adding to my earlier comment to clarify my response to your proposal, since I earlier only responded about who are considered members up until now. I don't agree with your reasoning, as I think it plainly goes against WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL, but I am not opposed to removing the information on NCT U from either the table or the timeline, as I mentioned in my earlier comment. I think what would be most beneficial to clarifying the membership of NCT U would be to make a table or timeline specific to NCT U under the Members section, and show its change in membership by track release. Especially as NCT U redirects to this page, I think clarifying it's membership here would be worthwhile. Nangears (talk) 02:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

The photo must be changed to one with the 23 members on it and names must be added as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackIsTheNewLove (talk • contribs) 22:49, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Change the profile into NCT2020

Eumm Hello I just wanna say about the profile, can you change the profile into the newest version, NCT2020?? Myzundertsand (talk) 14:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

NCT 성찬

안녕 내 사랑~ 덕분에 매일 행복해요 ♡ Nctjsc (talk) 13:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Chart

There needs to be a timeline chart on the page, NCT is going to keep growing with more members and more units, Chris Lee literally mentioned they're preparing for the goal of at least 1 unit based in each continent, and its going to be harder to explain in words and tables as it continues to expand. - K-popguardian (talk) 05:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Why though? They almost always seem to create a new group name for a lineup of members. Other than the additions to NCT U, is there really confusion on which group has which members? They don't seem to promote all at the same time. There isn't a full switch of different members every week. The lineup changes expressed in prose seems to be rather fine. I find the whole timeline such a horrible mess - it's impossible to read and get anything relevant from it. Evaders99 (talk) 05:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

There comes a point where a timeline just gets out of hand, and in my opinion we're past that point. I have near perfect vision, I'm not colourblind, and even I am struggling to understand that mess of a timeline and see the individual colours clearly. There doesn't need to be a timeline, writing in prose which members are in each unit would be a lot easier to understand than a bunch of bars that merge together. Alex (talk) 13:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

I personally see the value in having a timeline, seeing when members joined and which units they are in. However, due to 1) red-green colourblindness issues and 2) every member of NCT being in NCT U, perhaps removing the NCT U bar from the timeline is a good compromise? 41matt14 (talk) 16:01, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

K-popguardian is now blocked for edit warring, and what can I say--K-popguardian, fighting over something that you seem to know nothing about is just not a smart thing. I removed the table mainly because it so blatantly violates our accessibility guidelines, and some people are experts on that--including RexxS, whom I typically turn to for advice in these matters. Personally I think they're pretty useless; the argument that "oh they're getting new members" is an argument to update the article, not to add or restore a timeline. The problem with them is not just the colors, and in this case that was just really unthinking and uncaring, it's the whole graphics of them, with the many colors and the thin lines and, sometimes, the vertical lines to indicate when some album was recorded, and all that. The more you add, the more complex they get, and something that was meant to aid the readers becomes, in fact, a distraction--and one that doesn't even fit on the screen of a mobile device. Plus, it takes a degree in coding to edit them--they're worse than tables. So that's what, four? good reasons NOT to have them/not to have one in this article. Drmies (talk) 23:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2021

Hi could you add a photo of the 23 members now? The photo that you have are only the 18 members in 2018 and since then there have been added 5 members so please fix it. 37.6.162.71 (talk) 10:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome to find a freely licensed image that satisfies these criteria. Please read up on WP:UPIMAGE before doing so. Evaders99 (talk) 10:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2021

I want to edit a photo for this page NCTzen16 (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

The reason why I want to edit a photo is because the current photo used for this page is no longer accurate because there has been more members added to NCT since this photo was taken so I wanted update it. NCTzen16 (talk) 11:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

NCTzen16, is the photo you want to use already on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons (which is where we keep pictures here generally)? For a photo to be uploaded to Wikipedia, it has to be fair use; either in the public domain, or be permitted for use by the creator. Are you able to provide a link to the image you want to use? Thanks, WikiMacaroons^Cinnamon? 12:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2021 (2)

Update the group image from NCT 2018 to NCT 2020 with additional members Xiaojun, Hendery, Yang yang, Shotaro, and Sungchan. 2001:4454:299:6D00:E830:A857:D0A8:BEDC (talk) 14:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

See above – what image? Volteer1 (talk) 14:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Drafts

I have created drafts for the Unnamed NCT Unit that's set to debut this year and for the future NCT-Hollywood unit. If everyone could contribute to these as we get more info every once in a while that'd be great.

Unnamed NCT Unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Unnamed_NCT_Unit

NCT-Hollywood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:NCT-Hollywood

- K-popguardian (talk) 02:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2021

Hello. I would like to request a small change in a photo for the NCT group as a whole. Quite a few people have asked before too for this.

I have found an image that can be used for this purpose, but I am not too sure whether we can freely use it. I have attached a link to the photo here. This is the thumbnail of the NCT 2020 YearParty video on the official NCT YouTube channel. This channel is managed mostly by their agency, if I'm not wrong, which is why I am still kind of wary with giving a go for the image.

Please do check on this and confirm whether we can use this image freely, or if we have to take special permissions for this purpose.

VijayBadde (talk) 17:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: That image is likely copyrighted, and without correct licensing we can't use it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2021

Change the picture. NCT has 23 members now! 27.57.6.217 (talk) 19:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please provide the link to latest image that verifies the claim made Run n Fly (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2021

Mark officialy become the Leader of NCT Dream Charovenna (talk) 02:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 25 October 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is a clear consensus that there is no primary topic. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 12:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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• NCT (group) → NCT
• NCT → NCT (disambiguation)

– IDK. Maybe, RM to primary topic KPOP groups has been done to BTS, Twice, and, most recently, Exo. TheRafaMarc15 (talk) 11:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

• OP. WP:NOPT. No such user (talk) 11:52, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
  • I think "OP" means "Opposed" above, asserting that there is no primary topic. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:08, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
• Please note that this is a malformed request, as the target name is already occupied with non-redirecting content. Because of this, there is no banner at the top of that page to warn readers that the page has been suggested to be renamed (although, thankfully, a bot has placed a notice on the Talk page). This should presumably have been submitted as a multi-page RM. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:18, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose: The K-pop boy group(s) are WP:RECENT and do not have clear long-term significance. In contrast, "NCT" can also refer to some rather prominent and important topics with long-term significance, as noted on the NCT disambiguation page, such as the official name of Delhi (a place with a population of 18 million people), the oldest professional children's theatre company in the United States, tests taken by students in England, a roadworthiness test for Irish cars, and a school of thought in Christian theology. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:05, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as per WP:RECENT and WP:NOPT. TiggerJay (talk) 05:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per BarrelProof. -ink&fables «talk» 09:47, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not another Korean boy band that K-pop fans are trying to make primary over all the other meanings. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:47, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose It would be better if someone can post how many times each of the more frequented pages are usually visited. Nevertheless, not all pages about K-pop groups are moved to primary because of recentism and the absence of a clear primary topic. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 14:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
  • The Delhi page is the most visited (174,856). Then NCT (55,416), NCT 127 (38,091), NCT Dream (17,363), WayV (14,075). The other pages are all under 3,000. Poirot09 (talk) 16:23, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Is the second entry in that list referring to the disambiguation page? It seems unusual for a dab page to get very high traffic. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
      • @BarrelProof:I believe they're referring to this page, NCT (group). 41matt14 (talk) 18:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2021

Some information on this page is missing. Your local watermelon Simp (talk) 05:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Information on this page is missing Your local watermelon Simp (talk) 05:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Talk 05:24, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Photo used of NCT

I feel like we should change the picture used as group photo to a recent one from NCT 2020. They still use the photo from NCT 2018, but in the mean time there have been added way more may members and the NCT2020 group photo is the most recent one with all of the members on it. I also think i represents their current image more. FridaRibbers (talk) 23:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome to suggest one that satisfies Wikipedia's image use policy. Not every image available online is something Wikipedia can use. 00:00, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes I think we should change the picture but I also think we should kinda wait to see the NCT 2021 pictures because I kinda think SM added more members Melody mells12 (talk) 14:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2022 (2)

change

associated_acts =

• SM Town
• SM Rookies
• NCT U
• NCT 127
• NCT Dream
• WayV

to

associated_acts =

• SM Town
• SM Rookies
• NCT U
• NCT 127
• NCT Dream
• WayV
• SuperM

Ashleyisme (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2022

At the beginning of the article, “boy band” should be changed to “boy group”. NCT is not a band, it is an idol group. “Band” usually refers to instrument-playing bands, who usually make rock music, for example Day6 or N.Flying. DonyDonut77 (talk) 04:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: This is actually a controversial edit, so you'll need to discuss first with other editors. Please open a new section here and start a discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:08, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Boy band does not imply a instrument-playing band these days, per Wikipedia's own article that points to NCT, BTS, etc. So current usage is fine. Evaders99 (talk) 16:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Removing units comebacks from history section

I think the article should focus on NCT U and NCT as a whole. Adding comebacks from all units makes it unnecessary long and basically a copy-paste and collage of all the units' articles. Since it's a big edit, I wanted to ask if anyone thinks they should stay? Poirot09 (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I do kind of agree. The subunits already have their own pages, and recently we split the discography into multiple pages as well. I would say keep major debuts and such, as well as things like the future projects section that was just added, but specific comeback details and awards can remain on other pages. - K-popguardian (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Highlight suggestion

Jungwoo isn't highlighted/linked after saying about NCT DoJaeJung debut 188.147.100.100 (talk) 21:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Jungwoo doesn't have a page yet. - K-popguardian (talk) 22:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2023

Change 27 members to 20 2603:8000:D101:EA5:EDE2:9469:CAF2:6CFD (talk) 03:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn’t realize that NCT Tokyo had joined. Nevermind! 2603:8000:D101:EA5:EDE2:9469:CAF2:6CFD (talk) 03:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: NCT Tokyo, the upcoming unit has already finalized the number of members which is 7 and they will debut this year. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 03:20, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

To any interested editors: NCT U

Hello. The article NCT U was recently recreated (from a redirect), and is currently looking pretty dire. I've added basic citations, WikiProject banners, relevant categories, and some templates. If anyone has more drive in the subject matter than I do, please feel free to expand the article or draftify it if needed. Many thanks. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 05:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 13 September 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: pages moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 08:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Na Jae-min → Jaemin
• Park Ji-sung (singer) → Jisung
• Lee Je-no → Jeno (singer)
• Zhong Chenle → Chenle

– Proposing moving the above pages from their current full names to their mononym as per WP:COMMONNAME. The subjects of the above articles are most commonly known mononomously as their given name and have never used their full name in any professional capacity. Additionally, it is unnecessary to disambiguate these articles by using their family names because there are no other mononymous singers with Wikipedia articles that share those same given names. RachelTensions (talk) 16:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support: as per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 18:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Support appears to match practice on kowiki too seefooddiet (talk) 17:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom Orangesclub (talk) 00:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 00:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Template:NCT (group)

Has there been any discussion as to what information should and shouldn't be included in Template:NCT (group) re: subunit discographies?

At present, it looks like NCT 127 has had their discography information removed at some point, presumably because they have their own navbox at Template:NCT 127. NCT Dream has also had most of their discography information removed, but they still have a single album listed for some reason; they also have their own navbox at Template:NCT Dream. NCT Wish has its full discography listed (well, except to Steady (EP) which was released today), though they also have their own navbox at Template:NCT Wish.

WayV and DoJaeJung do have their full discographies listed. WayV could just as easily have a navbox template made for it (I probably will create one when I get around to it later today) which could(?) mean that their discography should be removed from this navbox... An argument could be made for DoJaeJung to have one too given they have 6 or 7 articles it could be used in. That'd just leave the NCT studio albums and NCT U singles.

Just looking for clarity as to why we've done what we've done and where we should go from here so we can clean it up and make it more consistent.

Pinging for visibility @George13lol2 @98Tigerius @OrangesClub @K-popguardian @PepeBonus as frequent contributors to NCT-related articles and @Poirot09 who seems to be the editor that removed some of the discography a year or so ago. RachelTensions (talk) 16:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm happy with the sound of your plan! I think WayV are overdue for a template and DJJ seem to have enough for one too, or potentially could even be moved to the NCT127 template? But overall I'd say the NCT template would work best as a hub for NCT U and other complete group items. orangesclub 🍊 03:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

It looks good that leaves only articles related to NCT full group, NCT U, and DoJaeJung on the NCT template and creates WayV template. PepeBonus (talk) 04:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Support split. The end results should just be NCT, NCT U, and DJJ. I don't see DJJ having a standalone navbox at this point of time without ending up at TfD. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Agree with the others to removed 127, Dream, WayV, and Wish's contents and retain U and DoJaeJung. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 05:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and created Template:WayV - feel free to adjust as everybody sees fit.

Per this discussion I've removed WayV, Wish, and the little bit of Dream that was left over from Template:NCT (group), so all that is left is U and DoeJaeJung. Now that it's done I think it looks kinda funny to have basically just DoJaeJung left plus the whole group/rotational unit - what do y'all think?

I'll create a draft for DoJaeJung template and see where we can go from there. RachelTensions (talk) 00:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

FYI I've drafted Draft:Template:NCT DoJaeJung; it's pretty sparse but it would bring them into line with the rest of the units and allow us to split out DoJaeJung so they aren't the only permanent unit left in Template:NCT (group) (I feel as though leaving just DoJaeJung in Template:NCT (group) gives the vibe to an uninformed reader that that is the only unit or that it's some sort of special unit.)

I won't move out of draftspace until others chime in. Thoughts? @98Tigerius @Orangesclub @K-popguardian @PepeBonus @George13lol2 RachelTensions (talk) 22:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

NCT U image in "Members" section

There's been a bit of back and forth with the subunit images included on the right in the NCT (group)#Members section, specifically the inclusion of an NCT U image. Should we include an NCT U image along with the rest of the permanent subunits in that section? U is a rotational subunit that changes depending on the song so any image selected to represent "NCT U" would only be accurate for that one specific occasion and wouldn't be representative of "NCT U" in general. The image of NCT U included in that section is also a repeat from up a little further in the article.

Thoughts? RachelTensions (talk) 22:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Sidebar but to be honest I'm not even sure why NCT U has an article considering the whole concept of that unit is that it's literally any selection of members of the group, and all of the unit's singles have been exclusively been released from albums under the "NCT" banner. Surely pretty much everything in that article is already covered here. RachelTensions (talk) 22:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

An NCT U article definitely makes sense considering the notability the unit has for the success of its music commercially and globally. They've released singles for projects beyond NCT U albums such as for drama soundtracks and the ongoing NCT Lab. - K-popguardian (talk) 00:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to make this into a deletion discussion about the NCT U article so I probably shouldn't have opened that can of worms here. The only thing I'll point out is that pretty much all of the useful information from the NCT U article is duplicated directly from the NCT discography article. RachelTensions (talk) 01:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)