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On 29 September 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Nana (entertainer, born 1991). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 29 September 2024

Latest comment: 1 month ago19 comments11 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Nominator withdrew his own support when Nana (entertainer, born 2001) was turned into a redirect. There was also consensus to oppose the move prior to him withdrawing. (non-admin closure) cyberdog958^Talk 04:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nana (entertainer) → Nana (entertainer, born 1991) – Ambiguous with Nana (entertainer, born 2001) and Nana (rapper). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'll withdraw my support for the move as nominator now that the other (entertainer, born XX) has been redirected. Don't love (entertainer) generally, but it apparently has currency in South Korean titles. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 16:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Rename per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Still support. "rapper" is a subtype of "entertainer" and even just versus the rapper I don't think partial disambiguation is warranted. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Do you think it’s worth doing a complicated disambiguation on Nana (entertainer) just because “rapper” is a type of “entertainer”, even though between it and Nana (rapper), the entertainer receives 90% of the views?

I’d venture to guess that very few people might end up here thinking they’re going to the rapper’s article, and if they do a hatnote would work perfectly to help them out. RachelTensions (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes. I think if you have to add a parenthetical to an article title, you might as well include enough information in that parenthetical to make it fully unambiguous. I see the argument you're making as a form of special pleading that should be discounted. That's usually not what the community consensus is, but I'm entitled to express that thought anyway. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'll note that per WP:SINGERDAB, (rapper) and (entertainer) represent sufficient disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support: as per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 08:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wait: Nana (entertainer, born 2001) is currently at AfD for (IMO) failing to establish WP:BANDMEMBER. If the result of that AfD is to keep the article, then I would suggest moving Nana (entertainer, born 2001) to Nana (singer) as a cleaner alternative to using a double disambiguation, because, based on the very limited prose in the article and my general knowledge of K-pop, it seems like acting is more of a small side gig for her and her girl group activities are her primary function as an "entertainer" RachelTensions (talk) 09:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Whether Nana (entertainer, born 2001) is kept or not I'm going to Oppose this move per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Between the two articles, Nana (entertainer) gets 92% of the views and cluttering with an extra disambiguator is just not necessary when the hatnotes work just fine. RachelTensions (talk) 00:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support the 1991 one has 14,361 views but the 2001 one has 1,245 and the rapper has 1,181[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose - I'd say that having 10x the number of views as the other entertainers would put her as the WP:PRITOP (for entertainers with the name), it can be expected that she is the entertainer people are looking for. Why clutter the disambiguation? orangesclub 🍊 04:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
10x is rather low for partial disambiguation per generally-accepted standards. It's been seen in a few other cases, but the consensus breakpoint is closer to 50x or 100x. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom. Incomplete disambiguation is rarely a good idea. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment - Nana (entertainer, born 2001) has been redirected to Wooah as a result of this AFD; this requested move is probably irrelevant now. RachelTensions (talk) 11:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose Per above, the other article has been merged and this is no longer ambiguous. Existing hatnote is fine. 162 etc. (talk) 15:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose as not ambiguous. (I suppose sometimes a significant redirect can create ambiguity, but no indication the other Nana is that level.) SnowFire (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose, hatnote is sufficient in this case. Sennecaster (Chat) 14:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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