Talk:Nana Mouskouri

Early comments and glasses

Good grief, did she ever take a break and go on holiday? The list of albums is staggering...

andreasegde 09:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, she's over 70 years old, that's a long time to sing 3-minute-songs ;-)

But ist that really her on the radio magazine of 1957? Didn't she always wear spectacles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.140.102 (talk) 20:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

She has worn glasses for the majority of her life, however there are times for "shoots" she takes them off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.20.194 (talk) 04:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

It is quite true that on a few occasions she has taken off her signature glasses and performed without them. There is also a picture of Nana without glasses on the rear side of one of her record album covers, please also perform a Google Search for Nana Mouskouri with NO Glasses and you find pictures of her without the signature glasses.

I have personally met Nana Mouskouri after several of concerts, On one occasion I was waiting with other her fans to speak to her and get her autograph, a fan very politely asked Nana if she would remove her glasses so that she could see what Nana looked like without glasses. Nana agreed and then removed her glasses and allowed herself to photgraphed without them

Most notably the singer Harry Belafonte argued with Nana about her glasses and made it very clear that wished for her to perform without them when performing on his television show. She tried singing without them for a few performances and she felt very uncomfortable without them, she told Harry Belafonte that she was prepared to leave his television show if she was not permitted to wear them. Jputting (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

who cares about H. Belafonte’

Rude and arrogant. And , Presumptious , to tell Nana to remove her glasses.

she always had them, since, i knew her at the age of 16 years old. She is Beautiful, Gracious, and Politly a delecate person to be Admired.

she was Blest. She was Gifted. She was a beautiful soul. God gave her and blessed her as to what she is. And, she did the right thing, as to not Remove her glasses. Who has tje nerve and Audacity to say that. Nothing but , Ignorance and jealousy. Love Nana. God bless you always 151.202.21.190 (talk) 14:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Asterisks in albums

Clarification: what's up with the asterisk beside the 300m albums sold? Do you mean to distinguish between physical discs/diskettes and albums (as with OutKast's Speakerboxx/The Love Below, which counts as two on each sale)? 128.135.6.3 02:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Saw the answer in "notes", but there's no clear association with that "(*)" used above.128.135.6.3 02:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

This article seems to be copied from All Music Guide

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:xx5ibkk96akc~T1 I'm putting on a copyright warning. Repetition 19:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you certain their text was not copied from our article? Would not be the first mirror site. User:Dimadick — Preceding undated comment added 11:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction

"Mouskouri began singing lessons at age 12. ... During the Nazi German occupation, her family no longer had the financial means to pay for her singing lessons". Since Mouskuri was born in 1934, this means she began singing lessons in 1946. Nazi occupation, however, ended already 1945. --NeoUrfahraner (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed "During the Nazi German occupation, her family no longer had the financial means to pay for her singing lessons, but her teacher saw that she had a certain talent and continued to give her lessons free of charge." for the reason given above. Maybe someone with more information can replace it by the correct version. --NeoUrfahraner (talk) 03:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Meine Lieder sind meine Liebe

in Middle ages you write, that the Albums name is: Meine Lieder Sind Meine Liebe (My songs are my love), the album is called Meine Lieder sind mein Leben (My Songs are my life) Phillips 6399277, 1981. LP As I don't have ever changed anything in Wikipedia, I won't begin here :) But maybe someone can change it? (Lore)81.159.44.29 (talk) 20:15, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Site with Nana Mouskouri singing

This site: [Nana Mouskouri] has this singer singing.Agre22 (talk) 02:26, 15 November 2009 (UTC)agre22

Colonels regime

From 1967 till 1974 Greece had a military dictatorship as government. Nana didn't flee as many other artist did. In fact she even sang for the colonels. I don't have any internet links but perhaps anyone who has can include this information. 195.240.16.64 (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh the weight, the weight of our "manifest destiny"

"...Mouskouri was sometimes described as Europe's answer to Barbra Streisand..."

Jeez, YTF does everything have to be viewed through an American (=USA) prism all the time? No wonder the rest of the world hates us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.213.104 (talk) 13:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Claimed sales are certainly false

Nana Mouskouri is indeed a very successful singer, she has released countless records in many decades, however her total sales number is definitely exaggerated. The RIAA site doesn't confirm any certification of Mouskouri in the US, which is the most important market in music industry worldwide. Also, she has no certified records by the RIAJ (Japan), ARIA (Australia) and in general her certified sales should be maximum 30 million records. Since her sales aren't certified, this could easily be an exaggerated number published by the record company as a promotion strategy. Apart from that, Mouskouri was never known as a chart-topper. She has had the career she has had, she is definitely a unique artist with a unique voice, but her sales number is a huge lie. Maybe it should be better to not mention her sales, since it's something up to negotiation. It could be stated in a more proper way, for example "she has sold millions of records worldwide", which indicates that there is no clue from that period in music industry to confirm her sales number, or otherwise it could not be mentioned at all, since there is no official source to verify the sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.32.182.19 (talk) 02:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

"considered to be one of the best-selling music artists in the world..." How can she be "considered" to be one of the best-selling music artists in the world? She either is, or she is not – this is a verifiable fact. If, as the preceding comment claims, her sales numbers are bogus, it could say "claimed to be one of the best-selling".217.33.154.66 (talk) 15:54, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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Soleil Soleil

In the recorded version of the song Soleil, Soleil, the word soleil is sung a total of 80 times. -Nana Mouskouri: 48 times -the chorus: 32 times — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.29.236 (talk) 05:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Meeting André Chapelle

Section “Family life”: “They had two children (Nicolas Petsilas in 1968 and Hélène (Lénou) Petsilas (singer) in 1970) but divorced when Mouskouri was 39.[3] Not long after that, she met her second husband, André Chapelle, then her sound technician, but they did not marry then (...)”

Does it mean that Nana Mouskouri and André Chapelle met after her divorce about 1973-1974?

Discogs.com gives some clues that André Chapelle was her producer since 1967 (or maybe earlier): http://www.discogs.com/Nana-Mouskouri-Le-Jour-O%C3%B9-La-Colombe/release/909447 LP Le jour où la colombe (1967), with André Chapelle as producer in the credits...
Hégésippe | ±Θ± 21:03, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Vocal cords

What does "difference in her two vocal cords ...remarkable singing voice" mean? Are her vocal cords abnormal? If so, in what way? Incidentally there are far more than two vocal cords!Royalcourtier (talk) 04:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed NE Ent 23:07, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Nana Mouskouri can not only have one functioning vocal cord/fold, as I believe that that would make it impossible for her to speak or sing.

However the most likely alternative is that she has one vocal cord/fold which is thicker than the other, this may possibly have influenced the quality and characteristics of her voice and may possibly have contributed to her unique singing ability 210.11.152.123 (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Does anyone have any idea what this stuff about vocal cords is all about?

"Mouskouri has said that a medical examination revealed she only has one functioning vocal cord" -- what, like the sound of one hand clapping? And this disability is supposed to make her a better singer?? The statement (that Mouskouri said such-and-such) is not wrong, if she did say it, but it seems wrong to quote such a bizarre statement without comment.

Indeed, there are no such things as vocal cords; they are correctly known as vocal folds.217.33.154.66 (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

What do you imagine is "incorrect" about the term "vocal cords"? Cords, chords, folds, just different names for the same thing. Flapdragon (talk) 19:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC))

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Languages

She's performed in an impressive number of languages. How many languages does she know? SlowJog (talk) 02:00, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

She has reasonable fluency in about six languages, and has recorded in between about 16 and 20, depending on whether you include ones in which she has recorded only one song or part of a song. She is fluent in (Greek of course,) English, French, and German, and has some grasp of Spanish, Italian, and Dutch.

(I hope citations aren't needed for a talk page! Both these figures will be fluid anyway.) G6JPG (talk) 11:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Birthdate and age?

I just noticed that this info is missing from the article, and I recall it was here in past versions. Any reason why it got removed? Not A Superhero (talk) 18:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Not A Superhero, I removed the date of birth on January 28, 2022. WP:DOB specifies (in part), "Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public." Eddie Blick (talk) 21:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Teblick So it's a matter of lack of sources, basically? Not A Superhero (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Not A Superhero, yes, that's it. Information such as date of birth should be cited to a reliable published source in all articles (Wikipedia:Citing sources). When the article is about a living person, however, WP:DOB comes into play, as it relates to the person's right to privacy. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:12, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

@Not A Superhero, @Teblick - I've just removed (again) her date and place of birth. Hopefully someone can find a reliable source. Kiwipete (talk) 03:56, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Kiwipete. Addition of unsourced (or unreliably sourced) dates of birth and other personal information seems to be a recurring problem with many biographies of living people. I appreciate your acting on this one. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:35, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

There are plenty of reliable sources (selection linked) giving her year of birth, though not the full date. I don't see any reason why the year should be excluded from the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Teblick Ghmyrtle would this qualify as a good enough source? https://greekreporter.com/2022/10/14/nana-mouskouri-celebrates-88-years-birthday/ (Also, found UNICEF listing her birth year, I guess that might also count: https://www.unicef.org/goodwill-ambassadors/nana-mouskouri ) Not A Superhero (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm sure that UNICEF would be regarded as reliable. This is widely used as well. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I've added 3 sources for the birthdate. That should suffice. There are many more as well if these particular sources are not acceptable to the group. Grk1011 (talk) 21:48, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, @Grk1011! Kiwipete (talk) 22:19, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I just read the updates. Yes, I agree. Thanks for finding the sources. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

appearances up to 2023

Sorry I didn't put in citations - though I thought "citation required" used to be the norm rather than just deleting an edit wholemeal (!). Anyway, I've put in some citations now. They are of the footage from the TV channel (ARD1); I found another one of the last event from someone's cellphone, but thought that might not be acceptable, but I can add it if you wish - it does give a different angle. I haven't given a citation for the statement that, unlike many contemporaries, she rarely used "le playback" (miming) through most of her career: it's difficult to give a citation for a negative! G6JPG (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@G6JPG: I'm not sure those videos actually back up everything you're claiming and you didn't include any dates, publishers, etc. to establish their credibility as sources. Also, none of the videos state that she rarely used playback. Grk1011 (talk) 14:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, the first one does state that "Straße der hunderttausend Lichter" was recorded in 1965; however, that date will also be found in any reputable discography. Granted, the second link (the duet) doesn't mention the date, but it should be obvious (set design, station logo in-picture, how everyone's dressed) that it's the same event as the finale, and the link for that does have a date - it's in the title of the clip. As for its credibility, there are several other clips of the same event, including at least one clearly from the 'phone of someone in the audience.

I accept your point that there's no mention that she didn't often use playback - as I said, it's difficult to cite a negative! It's more that if you investigate her contemporaries, you'll frequently find observations that they do. However, please do delete/amend those few words (", which, unlike many other singers, she rarely used through most of her career") if you feel you must; I won't mind! G6JPG (talk) 20:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC) P. S.: I've just noticed I'd added this paragraph to "in popular culture", whereas it should have gone into the previous section. Now remedied.