Talk:Natalya Romanovna Guseva
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Comments from Sam-2727
editEarly life and family section
editAfter her schooling, she worked in a tire factory, and simultaneously studied in a technical school for rubber industry
remove commas and add "the" to formAfter her schooling, she worked in a tire factory and simultaneously studied in a technical school for rubber industry
.- Recommend changing
She first married V. N. Gusev who was an engineer,
toShe first married V. N. Gusev, an engineer,
- Sam-2727 I have made the changes (but couldn't find the "the" you wanted me to remove). Kindly have a look at the section, now. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 15:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Education, career and research
editcompleted her graduation with a specialty in Indology from the Leningrad State University
, should begraduated from Leningrad State University with a specialty in Indology
.Later, she worked at Institute of Ethnography in Moscow
should beLater, she worked at the Institute of Ethnography in Moscow
worked till her retirement
toworked until her retirement
- It is stated that
From 1963 to 1964, she worked as the senior methodologist of the Russian language at the House of Soviet Culture in Delhi
, but in the previous statement it saysshe started working again at the Institute of Ethnography of the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union where she worked till her retirement in 1998
. How could she work in the Soviet Union and India at the same time? She had labored to identify the common features...
recommend change toIn her research, she worked to identify common features...
During her life's later years, she became infatuated with the idea of a common ancestral homeland of the Indians and Slavs
recommend changing toIn the later part of her life, she fixated on the idea of a common ancestral homeland of the Indians and Slavs
- Recommend putting
The term Indo–Slav refers to "the remote ancestors of the Aryans and the Slavs"
in a footnote. Currently seems abrupt in the article She had delivered
toShe delivered
- Will cover other sections (and respond to comments) soon. Sam-2727 (talk) 02:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- adding ping to Мастер Шторм. Sam-2727 (talk) 21:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sam-2727, I have made the suggested changes for all the points exactly as you said, but for point 1, I have changed the sentence to
"completed her graduation from the Leningrad State University with a specialty in Indology"
because we have a sentence in the lead that reads"graduated from the Leningrad State University in the field of Indology"
. The reason for this move was that I was concerned that two similar sentences (if I change as suggested) could make up for a less good reading experience. However, if you believe that we should make the change as initially suggested by you above, kindly simply let me know and I would change that as soon as I read your reply.Point 4: I had clarified in that in the lead by adding the sentence
"She joined the Institute of Ethnography as an employee in 1952 and retired in 1998, however from 1963 to 1964, she had worked at the House of Soviet Culture in Delhi."
but I had forgotten to do that in that section. Thanks for highlighting this. I have changed the sentence to"...she started working again at the Institute of Ethnography of the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union where she worked until her retirement in 1998. However, from 1963 to 1964, she had worked as the senior methodologist of the Russian language at the House of Soviet Culture in Delhi."
The information is coming from a good source, so in my opinion, it should be very much safe to add the information with a "however" (but of course, only if the sentence's grammatical structure is acceptable (?)).Kindly view the section now, and please let me know if any changes are required. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 15:47, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Мастер Шторм, that's ok for now, but perhaps we will change the lead in the future, and can change it to the more specific version. Your response to point 4 is a good change. Sam-2727 (talk) 01:33, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sam-2727, we may discuss/change the lead at any time you want. Truth is, I struggle with the leads. And, you handle leads much better than me. So, you may also make any changes as required if they are there already there in your mind. Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 12:34, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Мастер Шторм, that's ok for now, but perhaps we will change the lead in the future, and can change it to the more specific version. Your response to point 4 is a good change. Sam-2727 (talk) 01:33, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sam-2727, I have made the suggested changes for all the points exactly as you said, but for point 1, I have changed the sentence to
- adding ping to Мастер Шторм. Sam-2727 (talk) 21:59, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
View on Jainism
edit- For the first sentence, either paraphrase the quote, or provide attribution, so
according to Pandian, Guseva was of the opinion...
. I would strongly recommend paraphrasing, since there isn't much of a need for a quote in this particular instance. Could be paraphrased toof the opinion that Jainism originated from before 500 B.C.
is poles apart
tois very different
- Recommend paraphrasing
"rejects holiness of Veda", and opposes "the dogma that gods are the main objects of worship"
. Can do byrejected the concept that Veda was holy, and opposed the concept of Gods being the center of worship in Jainism.
- Sam-2727, I have made the change exactly as suggested for point 2, however I wrote point 3 in the present tense as she was a modern era academic and Jainism (and Jains) on the present day also is very much holding on to what have been its core ideas for centuries. Is the edit for point 3 acceptable? Also, I have not added the last two words
"in Jainism"
as this would appear a bit confusing. This is their core belief and message to people/followers. We are mentioning their general view on the matter. And, for point 1, I have added one word to your suggested rephrasing — "long". This is done to do justice with the sentence from the source which uses the words"roots of Jainism are significantly more ancient than the middle of the first millennium B.C.".
The added sentence reads"of the opinion that Jainism originated long before 500 BCE."
Please also suggest if there can be a better choice of word(s). Please, kindly read the updated version of the section and suggest any changes, if required. Thanks,Мастер Шторм (talk) 13:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)(minor change) Мастер Шторм (talk) 13:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sam-2727, I have made the change exactly as suggested for point 2, however I wrote point 3 in the present tense as she was a modern era academic and Jainism (and Jains) on the present day also is very much holding on to what have been its core ideas for centuries. Is the edit for point 3 acceptable? Also, I have not added the last two words
Reception
edit- Will get to this section next time. Sam-2727 (talk) 01:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Мастер Шторм I see that you added a "busy" template to your userpage as well. I suppose that we will be getting through this one slowly. Sam-2727 (talk) 01:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sam-2727, I think that for some time, I might be able to check–in only once every 48 hours for replies and edits, still, please, let's keep going Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 12:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)