Talk:Nathalia Ramos

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Geraldo Perez in topic Nationality context in lead

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Can somebody do something to the birthdate part of this article? I accidently messed it up. =( KiaraFan13 22:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

This article needs a lot of work --Doctorkc (talk) 03:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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WP:NOT#FORUM Come on, let's keep it on topic. Depor23 (talk) 07:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

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This article seems to have a lot of uncited and false information that might not actually comply with the Wikipedia policy on Biographies of Living Persons. I would revamp this article on my own, but, unfortunately, I do not have any citations and I'm not sure that I know enough about this actress. I request that this article be redone - with proper citations, though! --Avatarfanx2 (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

American?

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Spanish Australian? She's referred to as American by the interviewers here and does not even correct them or flinch. Is she really American and her page a victim of origin obsessed editors (there are many of these)? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lD_Nh1Kx58 Fixer23 (talk) 10:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Given that she was born in Spain and her father is a Spanish citizen, she was a Spanish citizen at birth according to Spanish nationality law. Australian is possible but she was not born there. Lots of people move to the US and remain in the US legally without ever gaining US citizenship as that is not a requirement to live in the US. If she does have US citizenship there needs to be a reference in the article that supports that. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
I realize this thread is over 4 years old; however, Nathalia Ramos did become an American citizen on June 2, 2016. I updated her article to note this. She posted a photo of herself with her naturalization document on her official Twitter account on that date, entitled, " The Day I Became An American", https://twitter.com/nathalia73/status/738454112199540736 and she also posted to her official Facebook page on June 7, 2016 a video where she expresses excitement of voting for the first time since she became an American https://www.facebook.com/NathaliaNorahRamos.Slinkybinky (talk) 17:22, 18 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Role classification

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How she is credited is important to her notability. Major roles should be noted. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Not in a filmography and not without sources. WP:V / WP:UNDUE / WP:TRIVIA. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:25, 1 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
The info is well-sourced - a released project is in itself a published primary source that lists the credits and how the actors are credited - that is what is in the table. This is straight factual info that does not need interpretation so can be appropriately extracted from a primary source which it was without any interpretation needed. The project is named and is the reference. The listed project in the table is an inline reference that does not need a redundant cite to the same info. The info is thus verifiable. WP:NACTOR requires demonstration that the actor has significant roles and therefore supports that info about significance should be in the article. Listing which of the roles is significant supports that so this is far from WP:TRIVIAL. This is appropriate weight for those roles that are major - there is nothing WP:UNDUE about this info as listed. Removing this info does not in any way improve the article and removes important factual info about this actress in this bio article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
To add - after our last iteration on this subject I made a good faith attempt to address your issues mainly with respect to tagging roles as "main" which can be considered an evaluation, and replace them with the neutral "starring". I thought that change was acceptable at that time so am surprised this issue is resurfacing now. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:53, 1 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
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Nationality context in lead

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All her credits were when she was living and working in the US so the context portion of the lead should really just say American actress. She moved to the US when she was 4 per the article so basically Spanish and Australian background not relevant to her notable activities as previous nationalities and should just be mentioned in biography section. Don't need citizenship and nationality in infobox either, means same thing usually and definitely do in US. Nationality is preferred. See MOS:BLPLEAD § Context and Template:Infobox person/doc. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

No objection to this. However, in the similar case of Breanna Yde, we left 'Citizenship' in the infobox, and I advise we do exactly the same thing here. --IJBall (contribstalk) 17:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Either works but not both. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply