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Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion
I think it's too early to create an article on this topic, since so far nothing has been discovered except some radar images. It deserves little more than a brief mention at the Nazi gold page, perhaps in an expanded section on the gold caches (some of which have been found). - Mike Rosoft (talk) 19:10, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
I don't think it's too early given sources and ground penetrating radar confirmation of the train's existence. No matter what they find (gold or not) this will be a historic discovery. The train itself will be a historic artifact. A question is if this the gold train of historic purport, or a different (gold) train. Right now the sources all call it the gold train everyone has been searching for 80 years, so we go with that, but it may take on a different name in time if they find, say, cars full of wheat. That possibility is why I added the "so-called" since we don't know yet if it's a gold train. -- GreenC20:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Links to a minimal article on 'Money Train' (used for collecting takings or distributing wages on a Metro system) which has no relevance to this article
217.38.87.187 (talk) 20:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 years ago16 comments3 people in discussion
An editor keeps adding a wikilink connecting the supposedly buried train to the article train graveyard. I have explained, in edit summaries and on their talk page, that burying a train (if that is what happened) is not the same thing as a "train graveyard", a place where out-of-date rail equipment is put when it is taken out of service, and that the use of "graveyard" in the expression is purely metaphorical, and not literal, but the editor doesn't seem to be getting it.
To quote from the article Train graveyard: "A train graveyard is where trains and rolling stock are left to decay." Burying a train to hide it is an entirely different action, with an entirely different motivation, making the link inappropriate. It's as if I linked the statement "Television is where old playwrights go to die" to the article Death. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:34, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Well, a train (which may consist of several vehicles) is possibly buried somewhere. That sounds like a graveyard to me. That article includes a link to this one so I consider it relevant to link from here to there. At no point have I suggested a lengthy addition, just a link that some people may find useful. I don't understand how such a link could be seen as detrimental to this article. violet/riga[talk]15:37, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Good for you.It could be a train's grave, but it's not a train graveyard, no matter what it sounds like to you - you do understand what a metaphor is, right? It's detrimental, because we are an encyclopedia and should not be implying something that's not true. If you want to add train graveyard to the "See also" section, that's fine with me -- in fact, I'll do it myself now, if that will stop this silliness. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
You're nowhere near convincing me. You don't know if anything is there or if numerous carriages are buried. By saying that it has a place in the See also section you are implying a greater link than I did. violet/riga[talk]15:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't matter if is buried, or how much equipment is buried, it's not a place where outdated equipment goes to rust and "die" (again, a metaphor, not meant literally), which is what a "train graveyard" is, it's a train that was (possibly) buried so as to be hidden. Not the same thing at all.Please provide a source that calls the burial place of the supposed train(s) a "train graveyard", as opposed to, say, a train's grave. And please answer my question above: do you understand what a metaphor is? Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
If there is no reliable source associating this train as a train graveyard then it shouldn't be included in Train_graveyard#Rumoured_locations. This is known as original research WP:OR which is an "analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources". You have analyzed the source, reached a conclusion it is train graveyard, yet the sources say no such thing. It is purely your own synthesis and conclusion. -- GreenC16:03, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
If it's obvious you should have no trouble providing a source. It's not hard to show the terms usage in context. -- GreenC16:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
..and I don't think it is obvious. While one can make the term "trainyard graveyard" an umbrella to cover any train buried, the term is not usually (or ever) used in that sense, it has a more specific meaning, as sources show. In the end, it's not what you think, it's what the sources say/show. Otherwise it is an original interpretation. -- GreenC16:50, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
The burden is on you to show the definition is supportable in reliable sources. A dictionary definition would be nice, but is not required. Simply show the term used somewhere in the context of a buried train. This is how lexicography and etymology work, how professionals create definitions. Otherwise it is just making stuff up. -- GreenC20:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Breslau was completely encircled by soviet armored divisions since at least Feb. 13-14, 1945. Civilians and soldiers
were unable to escape, and German divisions from the Berlin area were unable to reach the city. By early in May,
the soviets had taken the outer perimeter of the city and its airport. How could a slow moving gold train possibly sneak thru the perimeter and traverse ~80 kilometers of Soviet held territory to Waldenberg, then in Soviet hands and not
end up captured? The train line out of Breslau wasn't underground - only a few kilometers near Waldenburg was underground.
Breslau was an isolated pocket of German resistance for nearly the whole three months. Berlin was completely encircled by mid-April. The remainder of Silesia to the west had been in allied hands for months. There was nowhere remaining in German hands for that train to go. Sbalfour (talk) 18:15, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply