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editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 18:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Cargo airlines
editIn the list of cargo airlines, SpiceJet is missing (http://www.dancewithshadows.com/aviation/spicejet-cargo-flights-from-goa/)Toniladri (talk) 22:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Indigo and Kingfisher are also in list of cargo carriers (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2009/07/25/stories/2009072550681700.htm), please update the article, don't give half information in the article Toniladri (talk) 08:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
False Information
edit- AI 101 is NOT a direct flight from Calcutta. The article you cited as your source says so quite clearly[1]: "The passengers will board a flight, AI-101 (which was previously operated as IC-402) and go to Delhi where they will have to board a different aircraft, which will fly directly to New York". The other examples you claim as justification (BOM-DEL-KIX and MAA-BRU-JFK) are actually direct flights (unlike AI 101). The same aircraft takes passengers all the way from Bombay to Osaka and Madras to New York.
- Your traffic figures are made up. First off, 2008 isn't even over yet, so how can anyone claim to know the figures for 2008? Also, the source you cited[2] makes no mention of 2008 at all.
- It seems that most of the text for the modernisation section has been directly lifted from the ACEXC page. That is called plagiarism, which is illegal. It is, therefore, being removed.
- Kingfisher is not adding any international routes from anywhere, let alone Calcutta.
Jasepl (talk) 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- The secondary runway length has been increased by 400 metres to 2800m, the 2400m length given is an old info. The CAT-II landing system has been installed on the primary runway and CAT-I on secondary runway. Please update the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.175.2 (talk) 17:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Dumdum Airport is under North Dumdum Municipality (Ward no. 14) in North 24 Parganas district. The airport is in Kolkata Metropolitan Area, not in Kolkata district. The north boundaries of Kolkata district are Cossipore, Sinthee, Belgachia and Ultadanga. If anyone has misconception, check Kolkata Municipal Corporation Map and Kolkata district Census Handbook 2011. For example, Hyderabad Airport is in Ranga Reddy district, not in Hyderabad district. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soumo Dutt (talk • contribs) 00:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
The 'destinations' section
editAir India operates flights from Kolkata to Dubai. Could you please add Air Asia flight from CCU to BKK in the destinationns section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.35.101.218 (talk) 14:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Air Asia wil start direct flights between Kolkata and Kuala Lumpur from November (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090815/jsp/calcutta/story_11363942.jsp) Toniladri (talk) 14:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Jet Airways is starting four new flights under the name Jet Konnect (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//Cities/Kolkata-/Four-new-Jet-Konnect-flights/articleshow/4549400.cms) Toniladri (talk) 08:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
The MDLR airlines website shows Kolkata as one if its destinations (http://www.mdlrairlines.in/BESR_Availability.aspx), then why is it not there on the list of domestic airlines? Toniladri (talk) 18:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Kingfisher is starting Kolkata-Dhaka daily flights from May 15 (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Airlines--Aviation/Kingfisher-to-launch-Kolkata-Dhaka-flight-from-May-15/articleshow/4450671.cms). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toniladri (talk • contribs) 13:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
User Jasepl stated that Gulf Air will end its flight to Kolkata on 29th March, what is the reference for this info? Also, Kingfisher is slated to start flights to Dhaka and Chittagong (http://www.webnewswire.com/node/447599). Air India will also start Kolkata-London service end of March.
You may have noticed that I have cleaned up the 'airlines/destinations' section by putting it into a tabular form. However, some things have come to my concern:
- According to its page, Cosmic Air is currently suspended and does not look like it will recommence flights any time soon. Why is it then on the list?
- The 'proposed airlines' section has been removed as the information listed is unlikely to take place in the near future and is thereby irrelevant. Just because a foreign airline is considering flying to India, and one destination may be Kolkata does not mean it is a future airline.
- Please stop adding the 'flight' to New York. Jasepl has already outlined the reason clearly above. We need unity here: if someone has deleted something, do not immediately put it back but consider why that person had edited what you wrote.
Lets work together to make this page much better!
Thanks, Jer.dv (talk) 14:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Can you add SilkAir as new airlines to start services to Singapore from July 2011. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110608/jsp/calcutta/story_14085051.jsp#4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psmukherjee (talk • contribs) 23:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Until an exact date is known, it cannot be added per WP:AIRPORT. —Abhishek Talk to me 03:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Recent edits
editUser:Jasepl said that in this edit it was discussed on this page but I see nothing here. First, "The year 2008, however, has been a different story, with international carriers systematically dropping Kolkata from their long haul networks, as a result of steadily declining yield." is unsourced, either provide a source or remove it. Second, section headers are "Airlines and destinations" and do not use a capital D. Look at other articles and you will see what I mean. Third, there is a big difference between Emirates Airline and Emirates, why would you want to send the reader to the second? CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Photos
editI have added some much-needed photos in, I know the quality of them is not too great but something is better than nothing at the moment. Can someone also get some pics of Flickr? Thanks. Jer.dv (talk) 08:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Semi-protection
editBecause of recent edit-warring from a variety of anonymous IPs, I have semi-protected this article for two weeks. This means that anons and new accounts cannot edit the page, but established editors with logged in accounts, can still make changes. Anons are also still able (and encouraged) to engage in discussion here on the talkpage. Hopefully this semi-protection will help stabilize things, though if there are any other disputes, please follow the steps in Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, and try to work things out at the talkpage. Good luck, --Elonka 23:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
AI to JFK
editStop adding JFK as a destination for Air India. I have removed it once again. The flight operates "via Delhi" which is an Air India hub and the source states that passengers will have to change planes at Delhi. This violates the WP:AIRPORTS guidelines bullet #5 completely. Thanks!! Cashier freak (talk)
IP editing
editWhy are IPs making edits to a semi-protected page? I thought that newly registered or unregistered account cannot make edits to this page. Can someone explain? Cashier freak (talk) 16:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The banner at the top of the page is wrong, the protection expired, it was for only two weeks. If this keeps going on for another day or two we should ask to have the page protected again....maybe this time for a few months.. Spikydan1 (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Don't know why the banner shows 22 Jan. Here's the protection edit. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's the expiry=2 weeks that causes it to say 14 days from todays date. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks - I'm pretty sure it will continue. It seems to be the same person making these edits - and sometimes he does sign in. Jasepl (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if the protection expired already, then shouldn't it be removed. Also, people are not resolving this on the talk page. Cashier freak (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Time for longterm protection? Jasepl (talk) 18:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- It might be...The IP edits are not nearly as bad as before...It might have something to do with the banner saying that IP users can't edit the page when they really can. Spikydan1 (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Time for longterm protection? Jasepl (talk) 18:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if the protection expired already, then shouldn't it be removed. Also, people are not resolving this on the talk page. Cashier freak (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks - I'm pretty sure it will continue. It seems to be the same person making these edits - and sometimes he does sign in. Jasepl (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's the expiry=2 weeks that causes it to say 14 days from todays date. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Update: IPs are continuing to add JFK. I have requested full protection on this article. Cashier freak (talk) 06:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Phew, a bit of quiet for a while longer! Perhaps the person adding the edits is an Air-India worker trying to promote the 'route'. Anyway, what about the new 'international destinations' added, such as Air India Express to Singapore and IC to Gaya? Are these legitimate? Jer.dv (talk) 12:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's someone who can't accept the fact that CCU has just one non-Asian route left. As for Gaya and Singapore, they're legit.
- OK great, just our luck. Now registered users are adding JFK. What are we to do now? Jer.dv (talk) 12:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's someone who can't accept the fact that CCU has just one non-Asian route left. As for Gaya and Singapore, they're legit.
- Phew, a bit of quiet for a while longer! Perhaps the person adding the edits is an Air-India worker trying to promote the 'route'. Anyway, what about the new 'international destinations' added, such as Air India Express to Singapore and IC to Gaya? Are these legitimate? Jer.dv (talk) 12:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
- There really is nothing we can do now...Just keep warning them on their talk pages like have...That way after four edits they can be blocked from editing for a while WP:WARN. Example: User talk:Souviksen66 15:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's the same OCD-addled person using more than one account. I say ban em all! Jasepl (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- There really is nothing we can do now...Just keep warning them on their talk pages like have...That way after four edits they can be blocked from editing for a while WP:WARN. Example: User talk:Souviksen66 15:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
The vandalism has started
editNow that the page is no longer protected, the IP editor is back to adding false information in the article. Can we lock it again? Jasepl (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Done. Page has been protected for 1 day. Cashier freak (talk) 19:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
May one ask why the interesting historical section - explaining how the airport was pivotal in international air history - vanished? Also, is Kolkata no longer considered, within India, one of its great cities? That seems to be reflected in the sudden, very recent resurgence & withdrawal of international air services. The enlightenment would be most welcome. User:NYCfellow
Editing Questions
editThanks to everyone who is working to make this article accurate and free from those horrible IP edits. Just three things I was wondering:
- It it true that MDLR Airlines has axed flights to Kolkata? The airline's website and wikipedia article both say that the flights are still going. Any proof of their ceasing?
- The 'passenger traffic' section with the graph was been deemed as 'no longer necessary' and has been deleted. It contained some useful information, I'd call it useful..
- The history section was a deleted a month or so ago because of lack of sources. Mabye someone could make one, even a simpler one, with some sources? Most airport pages have a history section, so Kolkata should too.
Thanks, Jer.dv (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I Am currently researching aviation history in India. some historical claims seem to be true. will put them back once i get sources. Thanks Trini 08:39, 18 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trinidade (talk • contribs)
Thanks for your contribution. I have edited and extended what you added. Good research! Jer.dv (talk) 10:15, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
AI To London from March 29
editAccording to [3], AI will recommence Kolkata - London flights after BA leaves. However, just like the JFK flight it will require a change in aircraft in Delhi so is not a direct flight. Beware of people who may try to add this flight in, along with the JFK one. Thanks, Jer.dv (talk) 08:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Jet Konnect
editSee here: http://www.jetairways.com/Cultures/en-US/India/Products+and+Services/Jet%20Airways%20Konnect
These are not new flights. Existing 'mainline' flights from Calcutta to Bangalore, Jorhat, Gauhati and Agartala are going to be operated by reconfigured aircraft, etc. It’s just a different class of service being offered by an existing airline; no new airline is being created, no new flights, routes or frequencies. Quite on the lines of ‘Dedicate’ by Air France.
Deccan / Red’s recent integration into ‘mainline’ Kingfisher is a good example for comparison, where the DN code disappeared, the Air Deccan legal entity is gone and Red is now just a different class of service. And an effort is underway to merge all articles and destination lists for Red into the Kingfisher article.
Jasepl (talk) 12:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- Should we not, then, write "Jet Airways, Operated by Jet Konnect' ? That is how it is done with Red - it says "Kingfisher, operated by Kingfisher Red". Jer.dv (talk) 07:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
NSC Bose International flights addition
editAIR INDIA operates flights from Kolkata to LONDON (AI 111, AI 112) and NEW YORK (AI 101, AI 102) via New Delhi. These are very important long haul flights that connect these important destinations. Although not non-stop, but these are direct flights with little operational stop at Indira Ghandhi Intl. Airport, New Delhi. Sm2k9.in (talk) 22:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
New KOLKATA - WASHINGTON (AI flights) from 1st DEC 2009
editIt is ridiculous that people are so ignorant as to not know that AI does not fly from CCU. Offcourse it does. Also, AI will be starting new flights from KOLKATA to Washington from 1 DEC 2009. I would request the admins and challange the crap that is put in here by some ignorant guy who does not know any whereabouts of it. I would like to support my statements above by the following weblinks:
I hope you guys can see it and update the page accordingly as you have done it for Kolkata Kulalumpur flight of Air Asia beginning 7th november 2009. Hope you would try and see my point and update the details in this webpage accordingly..!! Sm2k9.in (talk) 22:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
FYI some more confirmation on the new AI launch of direct KOLKATA WASHINGTON flight
editThe AI111 and AI101 involve NO CHANGE OF AIRCRAFT, with stops in New Delhi, some people here are being ignorant and giving false info. These are direct flights from Kolkata and should be listed as AI destinations. Plz lookup the Air India page and enlighten yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.175.2 (talk) 21:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Just to sight all of you some more articles regarding the launch of the new KOLKATA WASHINTON direct flight:
YES, it is a direct flight although it would make stops in Delhi and NEW YORK, there would be NO CHANGE OF AIRCRAFT taking place in between. AI will operate its new long range boeings, B777-LR from Kolkata w.e.f. 1st DEC 2009. The details of the schedule can be found in the following links.
Can an ADMIN plz update this peice of information now..?? Plz see the support links below for verification:
Hope you guys are now convinced that AI would fly DIRECT FLIGHTS from Kolkata w.e.f. 01.12.2009. Hope this helps..!! Sm2k9.in (talk) 22:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Does the fact that the same 777 is uded make the flight direct? Just asking. Jer.dv (talk) 12:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- It would, if it were the same aircraft all the way through. Turns out, it isn't: an Indian Airlines 320-type flies CCU-DEL and an Air India 77L flies DEL-JFK-IAD. So, no, JFK/IAD are not direct destinations from Calcutta. And neither is LHR. Jasepl (talk) 12:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- And since DEL is an Air India hub, those destinations should not be listed. Snoozlepet (talk) 00:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- It would, if it were the same aircraft all the way through. Turns out, it isn't: an Indian Airlines 320-type flies CCU-DEL and an Air India 77L flies DEL-JFK-IAD. So, no, JFK/IAD are not direct destinations from Calcutta. And neither is LHR. Jasepl (talk) 12:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
This Page requires some good pictures
editGuys can you please help me out in this. I have downloaded some decent pics from internet but not sure about the copyright thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arghya Chakraborty (talk • contribs) 11:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- some of the present pictures seem fine.--Jer.dv (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
The destinations...again
editIt seems the usual AI to JFK and LHR have popped up again, along with other questionable routes (spicejet to DAC?) Should protection be re-implemented?? --Jer.dv (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Page protection
editI have protected this page from editing by new users, to stop the ongoing slow edit-warring. Note though that I haven't really looked into who is "right" in this edit-revert cycle, and the protection should not be taken as an endorsement of the current version of the page. I'll encourage all involved editors to discuss the issues on this talk page, hear one another out, and try to reach a consensus, which can then be implemented. If you need any help/advice feel free to contact me on my talk page. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 05:02, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Lufthansa stopping CCU flights?
editCan someone find a valid source? I can't find any. It would be sad news if it it were true. --Jer.dv (talk) 08:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Lufthansa direct flight available even after 26 March, but user 124x247x221x146 is constantly adding this fact. never stop flying (talk) 01:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, it was added and I removed it. Attention user who keeps changing this: if you have proof that LH is ending March 26 please cite it, otherwise do not place "ends March 26" back on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.162.181 (talk) 14:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- Will this never end? Attention user who keeps stating that Lufthansa is ending on March 26; PLEASE SHOW SOME EVIDENCE TO BACK THIS UP as both the LH website and Google searches reveal no information on this change!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.162.181 (talk) 01:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Lufthansa is NOT stopping CCU flights on 26 March. |
AI 111 & 112 CCU to LHR and return
editI haven't edited the article, due to the note written. I know that this route has been argued about on wikipedia recently, and that proof from the Air India website will probably not be accepted. However, I do have proof from the website of Heathrow Airport. According to Heathrow airport it is a continuous flight number that does not require a change of aircraft, however there is one stop in New Delhi. I'm sure that BAA Heathrow Airport will have the correct information. [8] [9] This information is also supported by Expedia India, if you were to search a flight from Kolkata to London, it shows options to connect in Delhi and Mumbai for Air India flights, but also a 1 stop (not connection, just 1 stop) flight AI111 Kolkata to London. It is a continuous flight number, and therefore should be added to the page. I am not sure of the JFK route that has also been put as not to be added. If anyone wants any more evidence other than Heathrow Airport, Air India or Expedia, I am willing to find some. --MJLRGS (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Air India does not fly to Kolkata. Although the flight AI 111/112 is designated as a Kolkata-Delhi-London direct flight, it flown on an A321 on the Kolkata-Delhi route and on a 777-200LR on the Delhi-London route. Ergo, AI does not fly to Kolkata an the Kolkata-Delhi sector of flight AI 111/112 is flown on an A321 which Indian Airlines owns. Per the concensus at WP:AIRPORTS, we list only the operating carriers and not carriers placing their codes on other carrier aircraft. Hence the row AI op by IC for Delhi. Why so serious? Talk to me 15:02, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
However, BAA Heathrow website classifies this route as not a non-stop flight, but still a direct flight, as does Expedia, And a direct flight is one that doesn't require a change of aircraft, which would be listed. However, the Air India website is rather confusing however, and although it markets it as a direct route, it states JET as Aircraft for A112 London to Kolkata, but B777 on A112 London to New Delhi. It states A321 on the Indian flight from Delhi to Kolkata, but not the one marketed from London to Kolkata, and also one with a different time. The Indian Airlines website also claims that some flights are operated by their subsidary, but others by Air India itself, one of which is claimed by Expedia to be the flight originating from London. [10]. Most information shows a direct flight from London to Kolkata with but a stopover in New Delhi, however, a lot of it is confusing. --MJLRGS (talk) 15:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Indian airlines website gives schedules/bookings only for domestic flights be it AI or IC or CD coded. Air India website gives schedules/bookings for international flights operated both by AI and IC. You cannot book an international flight by IC on the IC website, you'll have to do it on AI website. On the AI schedule, it shows the aircraft as JET because the flight is flown using two different aircraft. Had it been the same aircraft all the way from Kolkata to London, it would have been the aircraft in specific. BTW, AI is not a subsidiary if Indian. Air India Regional (Alliance Air) is the subsidiary of Indian. —Why so serious? Talk to me 15:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant the subsidary, not their subsidary. Thank you f0r explaining about the JET, however, it still doesn't answer why it is specified as a direct route on the Heathrow website, or expedia. On Heathrow website, it only shows destinations that don't require any change of plane when you select direct only, yet Kolkata by AI112 still shows up as a destination, and if there was a change of plane then expedia would specify 'Connect in New Delhi Indira Gandhi' rather than '1 Stop', as do many other travel websites. --MJLRGS (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well that may solely be due to the fact that AI has given the same flight no for two legs of journey operated by two different aircraft. Infact even if you book from CCU to LHR on AI website, it does not retrieve the booking (on AI 111) as made on two different flights but rather on a single flight. Why so serious? Talk to me 16:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
The confusion is probably due to Air India doing as you say, as in many parts of the world it has to be the same aircraft to operate the same flight number, but it does happen otherwise in other parts of the world that may include India. I'm not completely sure. If there is confusion then the destinations list shouldn't be changed, as wikipedia may lack information, but should not be allowed to have false information. Unless of course, someone has who actually flown on the flight or an aviation official has something to say about it, but otherwise, the LHR route shouldn't be added as specified, and I won't. --MJLRGS (talk) 21:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
AI Express to BKK
editAre the Air India Express flights to Bangkok still in operation? They're not listed on their website any more. --Jer.dv (talk) 02:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Sm2k9.in, 9 June 2011
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Please change the beginning date of Silk Air's operation date from Kolkata. As per the official press release of Silk Air, it begins on 1st August and not on 4th July. TOI got it worng. I hereby copy the source and new schedule below for your perusal..!!
http://www.silkair.com/mbe/en_UK/content/corporate/newsflash/NF1001_09062011.jsp http://www.silkair.com/mbe/en_UK/docs/corporate/schedule.pdf Sm2k9.in (talk) 22:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Shaksray, 24 July 2011
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Shaksray (talk) 00:44, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: Destinations are currently being shown by airline. No need to add a second table. Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Reason for Move
editI, Avenue X at Cicero (talk · contribs) have recently moved this page to Dum Dum Airport, abiding by the policy on Wikipedia of using common names. As you can see from this Google search "Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Airport" generates 290,000 results; "dum dum airport" generates 1,420,000 results; "Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Airport" without Dum Dum generates 237,000 results; and "Dum Dum Airport" without "Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International" generates 673,000 results. And this ngram, clears further doubts, if any. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 20:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- WP:COMMONNAME cannot be applied here. Per the Airports Authority of India, [11], the name is Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International. Dum Dum Airport is an old name of the airport. If you apply the WP:COMMONNAME policy here, then Rajiv Gandhi International Airport will have to be renamed as Hyderabad International Airport and Bengaluru International Airport to Bangalore International Airport. These present names of the articles cannot be renamed to the so-called common name using WP:UCN coz as per official records, they are called by these names. It's an inappropriate move you have performed. — Abhishek Talk 16:02, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Could you please explain how WP:COMMONNAME is not applicable here? Obviously the AAI refers to it as Netaji... airport. It is the official name. Every governmental website refers to them as the official names. If you can find enough proof (like the ones I submitted above) that "Rajiv Gandhi International Airport will have to be renamed as Hyderabad International Airport and Bengaluru International Airport to Bangalore International Airport", move them! Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- I said if you consider your reasoning here, then Rajiv Gandhi International Airport will have to be moved to Hyderabad International Airport and Bengaluru International Airport to Bangalore International Airport, and same is the case with Chennai International Airport although Anna International Airport shows more ghits, but it is inappropriate. All airport articles in wikipedia are named per their official name and Dum Dum Airport is an old name of the airport as mentioned earlier.
Besides since this article comes under the WP:AVIATION and WP:AIRPORT projects, you should have discussed the move there 1st before unilaterally moving the page. — Abhishek Talk 16:23, 29 September 2011 (UTC)- I'm afraid not. The move wasn't unilateral. I had the page (Dum Dum Airport) deleted as CSD G6. G6. Technical deletions.: Uncontroversial maintenance, such as deleting dated maintenance categories, deleting unnecessary disambiguation pages, or performing uncontroversial page moves. This also includes pages unambiguously created in error and/or in the incorrect namespace. If no special tag like {{db-move}} can be used and the reason for deletion is not self-evident, a reason for deletion should be supplied on the talk page or in the edit summary. And as far as "All airport articles in wikipedia are named per their official name" is concerned, is there any policy stating so? Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- P.S.: See the ngrams for Hyderabad, Banglore and Chennai, see the difference. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:31, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- I said if you consider your reasoning here, then Rajiv Gandhi International Airport will have to be moved to Hyderabad International Airport and Bengaluru International Airport to Bangalore International Airport, and same is the case with Chennai International Airport although Anna International Airport shows more ghits, but it is inappropriate. All airport articles in wikipedia are named per their official name and Dum Dum Airport is an old name of the airport as mentioned earlier.
- Could you please explain how WP:COMMONNAME is not applicable here? Obviously the AAI refers to it as Netaji... airport. It is the official name. Every governmental website refers to them as the official names. If you can find enough proof (like the ones I submitted above) that "Rajiv Gandhi International Airport will have to be renamed as Hyderabad International Airport and Bengaluru International Airport to Bangalore International Airport", move them! Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Though I strongly oppose this move, Abhishek's rationale is not really accurate. Allow me to modify his rationale a bit. WP:GOOGLE has to be applied very cautiously. NSCB was renamed not very long ago, and obviously historical sources will tend towards mentioning Dum Dum. Check out Google News (where Airport info is commonly available), and AAI sites. They are the best indicators, and not books or web articles, which contain info right from the 1950s and colonial times. Lynch7 16:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, the airport was renamed in 2001, right? Even if you consider all the ngrams (Calcutta, Hyderabad, Banglore and Chennai) from 2001, you'll see that Dum Dum trumps Netaji. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:37, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Using WP:GOOGLE incorrectly will lead us to inaccurate conclusions. What WP:GOOGLE, and to some extent, books, will say is whether the name has been historically popular in use. That's not what Wikipedia wants. We want the name currently in use. We want the name that we see when boarding a flight. Lynch7 16:39, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, to be honest, I've never heard "Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose Airport" (except from the flight attendants) being used commonly in all my years in Bengal. Its always "Dum Dum". Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I forget to mention here that the name of the airport is mainly per what IATA and ICAO have in their database. — Abhishek Talk 17:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- And to add to it, when any airport is renamed (which it is allowed to), the government of the country where the airport belongs to has to inform both IATA and ICAO. This is probably the only source I can give as accessing data from the IATA and ICAO websites is not free. — Abhishek Talk 17:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I forget to mention here that the name of the airport is mainly per what IATA and ICAO have in their database. — Abhishek Talk 17:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, to be honest, I've never heard "Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose Airport" (except from the flight attendants) being used commonly in all my years in Bengal. Its always "Dum Dum". Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Using WP:GOOGLE incorrectly will lead us to inaccurate conclusions. What WP:GOOGLE, and to some extent, books, will say is whether the name has been historically popular in use. That's not what Wikipedia wants. We want the name currently in use. We want the name that we see when boarding a flight. Lynch7 16:39, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Sometimes WP:IAR trumps WP:COMMONNAME, and the official name of the airport is where the page should be, with colloquial names as redirects. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- The move wasn't based on any "rules", it was only based on facts that Dum Dum is the commonly used name. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Anyway, look at these statistics from Google News, from 01/01/2001 to 29/9/2011. Dum Dum Int'l 63 results, and NSCBI 197 results. Lynch7 17:56, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, remove the "Int'l" and its 144. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Dum Dum is also the name of the surrounding area right :) Lynch7 08:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, remove the "Int'l" and its 144. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
- Anyway, look at these statistics from Google News, from 01/01/2001 to 29/9/2011. Dum Dum Int'l 63 results, and NSCBI 197 results. Lynch7 17:56, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 05:27, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Airport → Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport –
I think this is more a paradox than a move request. I'll eagerly wait to see who solves it and how? |
- Why the move decision is difficult
- Even Governments are confused here, in some Government document/websites the spelling "Subhas" has been used and in some Government documents/website the spelling "Subhash" has been used.
- I have an air ticket of that airport, where the spelling is "Subhas", but in Airport entrance they have spelling "Subhash", see this image
- You will find "Subhas" in that airport's official website, but in West Bengal Government tourism website (the Airport is in West Bengal) they have used both those spellings.
- In India's Government topmost official website they have used spelling "Subhas", but in Sikkim Government etc they use second spelling.
- Still requesting move
- I am still requesting a move, since the airport was named after Subhas Chandra Bose, so the spelling should be same in Airport's name too!
- In comparison in more Government websites and documents "Subhas Chandra Bose" spelling has been used (please verify it your self)!
Tito Dutta ✉ 21:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, I have no objection to the move Jer.dv (talk) 00:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. I don't think it matters too much; you could've tried being WP:BOLD and moving the page yourself :) ; but no issues, its perfectly fine to come to WP:RM when you think there could be some doubt. Its fine by me, move it I say. Lynch7 07:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Whatever the outcome, the alternative spelling should be included in the lead, per MOS:LEADALT. -- Trevj (talk) 10:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Support Official site uses Subhas. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- Support per all reasons given above. Interesting one. Till now i never realized that Bose's first name was spelled as Subhas and not Subhash. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: Is this really the official website? I notice many mistakes mentioned in the airlines in operation part of the site. Like BA no longer flies, Air Sahara was renamed as JetLite long back when acquired by 9W, Indian Airlines is defunct, China Eastern Airlines has been operating flights since early this year, IT stopped flying here. Is there an accurate source to justify that Subhas as the right spelling? AAI website spells it as Subhash. — Abhishek Talk 13:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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New terminal and modernisation
editAs per media reports, all the airlines will move to the new integrated terminal by 15 March 2013. After that the old domestic and international terminal will not be in use, except for Hajj passengers. I propose that Modernisation and Airport structure should be merged appropriately to give correct information to the common people. May be we can keep a line or two about the earlier structure at max. Amartyabag TALK2ME 05:18, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done. However there is still a need for pictures of the new terminal. I have requested copyright permission for some pictures on Flickr.Jer.dv (talk) 03:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edit. May be few new pictures can be added later. Amartyabag TALK2ME 06:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Kindly have a look if this can be used in the infobox image till any suitable image is available. This seems like a image free from any copyright problem as the metadata is present. File:Kolkata Airport Skyview02.jpg or the cropped version File:Kolkata Airport new integrated terminal skyview.jpg. Amartyabag TALK2ME 17:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
New Terminal and Pictures
editThough this is just a suggestion, I also noticed the lack of pictures of the new airport terminal. All the pictures currently only show the old terminals or the tarmac near the old terminals. I believe it would be beneficial if someone could add more images to the page regarding the new terminal to update the article. The picture of the international terminal in the top of the page should also be removed as it makes the reader think that the two old terminals are still in operation. If needed, these pictures can be moved to the "History" section of the page. Geography101 TALK2ME 17:19, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed, we just need some pictures that aren't copyright restricted.Jer.dv (talk) 19:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have moved the picture of the old terminal to history section and added a cropped version of an existing copyright free image of the new terminal. Amartyabag TALK2ME 04:33, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Photo Gallery
editOnce again, this is just a suggestion, but I though that maybe we should bring the picture gallery back. I was viewing the edit history of this page and I noticed that some excellent pictures of the Departures section of the new terminal had been posted by one of our seemingly new fellow users, Rajdeep86041. They were apparently later remove because there were too many. I noticed that they were all original works and properly copyrighted. I was thinking that maybe we could either incorporate them into different parts of the article or, put them in a new picture gallery, as thumbnails, to save space and keep everything organized. I would like to here your thoughts on the issue as we were previously discussing the need for pictures to update the article. Geography101 TALK2ME 21:41, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Off topic,momentarily, I also noticed that the current website link for the airport does not work properly. Though I have come across a few different websites for the airport, since AAI is the owner and operator of it, I believe this website: http://www.aai.aero/kolkata/index.jsp is the correct one. I'm just waiting for permission to add the link to the page.Geography101 (talk) 21:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- The above link is the only working official website of NSCBIA. Go ahead and add it. Be bold and make uncontroversial changes without permission. Amartyabag TALK2ME 03:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Agree about the website, but am unsure about Rajdeep86041's images. They have been taken from this Flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68476094@N06/with/8566186246/#photo_8566186246 and have no copyright licence from there. It is possible that the user made the pictures and uploaded them to both Flckr and Wikimedia, but given that the user also attempted to add copyrighted images from http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-spectacular-images-of-revamped-kolkata-airport/20130129.htm#6 whilst claiming it as their own work, it seems unlikely. I suggest that we do our best to find images that we are licensed to use. 08:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jer.dv (talk • contribs)
Distinction Between Sections
editAs the new terminal is divided into two parts, (Domestic - Gates 1 to 3) and (International - Gates 4 to 5), should this be noted and and used to organize information in the Airlines and Destinations table? Once again, this is just a suggestion and I would like to receive some feedback on this idea. Geography101 (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Here is a model of my proposal. As you can see, there are a few areas were it would need tweaking, but this table displays the overall sense of what I am trying to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geography101 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Proposed table
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Geography101 (talk) 00:59, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- I have not been into the new terminal, can any one say if there is any segregation or entry restriction between the two parts? If there is no such restrictions, I think usage of these gate numbers will confuse people into believing that there is a segregation. Kindly clarify. Amartyabag TALK2ME 02:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- It seems that this is not common practice for single-terminal airports. Consider the wikipedia pages for Hyderabad and Bangalore airports - no distinction bas been made between international and domestic.Jer.dv (talk) 21:06, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Also, as far as I am aware, only 5 aerobridges have been delivered by the Malaysian firm delivering these, so that's the reason the airport is using only 5 of the gates. The capacity is around 18 or 19 gates. Isn't it so ? Vistaindia (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
By gates I was referring to entry gates into the terminal. The Indonesian firm, as far as I know, has delivered 12 of the 18 aerobridges. However, as Jer.dv said, I noticed that there is little to no distinction in other one terminal airports and thus, I agree that this change is most probably unnecessary. Geography101 (talk) 14:37, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
New Website & Logo
editThe Kolkata airport launched it's new website on August 15. I had made the corresponding changes to the article and it was reverted once. Before further revisions, please check out the link below. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140818/jsp/calcutta/story_18730397.jsp#1Vistaindia (talk) 02:48, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- The site kolkatainternationalairport.com seems dubious to me. Firstly, a check on Whois.com [12] reveals the site is not registered to its operator, AAI (as it should be).
- For example: The official website of Delhi Airport is owned by its operator DIAL [13] and the official website of Mumbai Airport is owned by its operator MIAL [14].
- In Addition, the Main Airports Authority of India website does not link to this "new" website from its "all airports" page as it does for other airports of India like Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Kochi etc. that have their own website. As such, we should be slow in placing a link to this site and adopting the Logo displayed in it until we can give sufficient proof of its authenticity. If this is indeed a new development we should wait till AAI links to this new site.
- Also, Why is there only one mention in the press about the website? We may need to get consensus wether we can include the logo and website purely on the basis of a newspaper article. Trinidade (talk) 04:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Airlines and destinations
editWhere has the passenger airlines and destinations table gone? Please restore it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutush2004 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Please update Flydubai Airlines that is operating to Dubai Airport Rahul Pardesi (talk) 03:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Not done @Rahul Pardesi: Fly Dubai operates CCU-DXB under an air bubble agreement [1]. Bingobro (Chat) 04:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Airline and destinations (passenger)
editSomeone have played with the table in the section. Please restore it to its previous form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.187.54.240 (talk) 14:39, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Please update Flydubai Airlines operating to Dubai Airport. Rahul Pardesi (talk) 03:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Rahul Pardesi: There is no need for multiple requests. Bingobro (Chat) 04:44, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Someone is misusing wikipedia.
I have given several proof about the Calcutta-New York flight. But the always chaning the datas.
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Air Deccan
edit@Wonderbank: It's clear that while undoing my revert here, you have changed the reference and have now provided the schedule of the airline which can also be seen as per your edit here that you had added only the main page. So as per your revert you stated that the airline schedule was provided which is wrong. Please don't try to mask your mistakes in the reverts and claim that you provided the correct info. Also remember WP:BURDEN. — LeoFrank Talk 04:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please put in basic information required for travelers not familiar with the airport
editI am looking for
a. Terminal map b. Gate Numbers / Check in Kiosks for International Departures - Listed by Airline c. Gate Numbers where relatives receiving arriving passengers should wait - Listed by Airline d. Duty Free shop details e. Smoking zone details f. Location of bathrooms g. Location of other facilities — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.44.159.234 (talk) 17:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a Travel Guide. You are not supposed to find these informations here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- ... that Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport won the title of Best Improved Airport in the Asia-Pacific region in 2014 and 2015? Source: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/productline/building-materials/netaji-subhash-chandra-bose-international-airport-a-clean-and-green-facility-in-kolkata/articleshow/74208115.cms?from=mdr and http://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/airports-best-customer-service/index.html
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Improved to Good Article status by ArnabSaha (talk). Self-nominated at 13:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC).
- Review not started
- Hello, link the hook (article) please. --Titodutta (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Fixed 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'd like to read the article thoroughly and take a couple of days. Some formatting such as MOS:ENTO, Overlinking need to be fixed (Subhas Chandra Bose has been linked 6 times), the minor formatting things – which should not affect this DYK, I'll fix myself. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 13:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- User:ArnabSaha, finish the QPQ, so that I can proceed towards finishing the review. --Titodutta (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Titodutta, this is my 2nd dyk nomination. so qpq isn't compulsory, right? ❯❯❯ S A H A 18:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA on 14 July 2020. Hook is cited. Image is cited, QPQ not needed. Good to go. --Titodutta (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I came by to promote this. The Cargo chart needs a source per Rule D2, and it would be nice to add one to cover the Passenger chart. BTW these charts are very hard to read with all the blue-linking. Yoninah (talk) 11:25, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yoninah, thanks a lot for pointing.
I am resolving the issues.No idea what to do with the blue-linking. I checked a few GA airport articles, they are same. ❯❯❯ S A H A 14:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)- Done ❯❯❯ S A H A 16:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Restoring tick per Titodutta's review. Yoninah (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done ❯❯❯ S A H A 16:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yoninah, thanks a lot for pointing.
Infobox image
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Hello. I want to start a discussion on which image to be kept in the infobox. The previous photo was this one: File:NSCBI International airport.jpg. This shows the whole terminal building of the airport. User:Adityabill2001 has replaced it with other images File:Kolkata NSCBI Airport.jpg and File:Kolkata NSCBI Airport P2.jpg which shows the post-security area and boarding areas respectively. I moved the this to the Terminal section in the body. Later Adityabill added this the infobox, replacing this. I don't have any problem with any of the images and none of them are mine. I feel the previous image is most suitable for the infobox. ❯❯❯ S A H A 18:09, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support File:NSCBI International airport.jpg being the infobox image; it is identifiably the airport, and the wide image captures the entire front of the building. The other photos are more specific smaller areas within the airport, and as such should only be used to support the prose. Zindor (talk) 19:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support: see @Adityabill2001:, we just can't compare the 2 articles. The infobox is the first thing any reader will see. Now the photo you uploaded just shows a specific part of the airport. Any reader won't get any idea regarding the airport at first sight. Year of capture doesn't matter here, because the airport hasn't been changed or renovated. So, the main steel building is the same. I hope you understand. Have a nice day. ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support File:NSCBI International airport.jpg, it shows a bigger area of the airport, and doesn't take up a huge amount of the infobox due to being portrait. — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 08:05, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support File:NSCBI International airport.jpg. Might come out as a personal preference but outside of the airport is much more identifiable. The insides are usually quite the same with all the airports: pillars, people walking etc. Also, as noted above, the inside is only for a small confined area, while the outside gives a a full on view. Regards, Field Marshal (talk) 22:17, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support File:NSCBI International airport.jpg. Per nom. ~ Quacks Like a Duck (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support File:NSCBI International airport.jpg for obvious reasons being that all airports look more or less the same from the inside. Interior images don't offer anything to identify the airport with. Whereas the image of the airports facade is much more unique and identifiable. Besides, a landscape image is always preferable in the infobox since it takes up less space. Debitpixie 💬 16:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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