Talk:Newcastle International Sports Centre

Capacity for 2018 World Cup

I'd be interested to know where the figure of 40,000 for the 2018 World Cup came from - is it possible for someone to provide a citation for it? Apologies if this is common knowledge in Newcastle, I currently live in Melbourne. --Brebster 09:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks like just an anon who is being optimistic! I've removed it. -- Chuq 10:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 10:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

Is there a rationale behind this request? --AussieLegend (talk) 15:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

There has been an on-and-off movement to stop using sponsored names for stadiums in Australia (see Lang Park, Stadium Australia, Docklands Stadium, etc). Seeing as how this is one of Australia's premier football stadiums yet to be moved across to a non-sponsored name I added the request. Bongomanrae (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Marathon Stadium was a sponsored name for this stadium. For the first 16 years of its operational life, before being renamed to "Marathon Stadium", it was known as the "International Sports Centre". This would seem to be a more appropriate name since it's the original name and, as far as I'm aware, is the name that is still on the books of the ISC Trust, the stadium managers and ultimate "owners". --AussieLegend (talk) 04:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

According to the article, it is Newcastle Stadium, but on the site Austadiums (external link), it is Newcastle International Sports Ground.  The Windler talk  04:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

My mistake. Perhaps we should move it to Newcastle Stadium (FTA:"The non-commercial name for the venue is simply Newcastle Stadium.") or Newcastle International Sports Ground then?. Bongomanrae (talk) 05:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Probably Newcastle International Sports Ground over Newcastle Stadium, I can't find a source that uses Newcastle Stadium.  The Windler talk  07:38, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Neither of those make any sense because it has never been called either of those names. It was originally the International Sports Centre, then Marathon Stadium and now EnergyAustralia Stadium. No other names have been used.[1] Newcastle Stadium is an informal reference and I can't find a link at the Austadiums website that calls it "Newcastle International Sports Ground".

The International Sports Centre was a grandiose plan for a multi-stadium sports centre of international quality that was developed in the 1960s. I remember my mother dragging me shopping along Hunter Street, when I was young, and seeing a large model of the proposed ISC in a shop window near what is now the Hunter St Mall. Only the first of the stadiums was ever built. The plan never proceded beyond that point and the stadium was named the "International Sports Centre". This is actually stated at the Austadium site.[2] Although it was originally called the "Newcastle International Sports Centre", the ISC Trust website now calls it the "Hunter International Sports Centre". The ISC has expanded in dribs and drabs over the years but there is a master plan to "redevelop" the entire area under the name "Hunter International Sports Centre"[3] so the most logical article name for the stadium would seem to be "Hunter International Sports Centre Stadium". --AussieLegend (talk) 09:01, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Oppose: commercial name seems obvious solution, as Hunter ISC Stadium, is terribly bad and only official name.  The Windler talk  11:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I looked at Talk:Lang Park and found directions to two prior discussions now archived at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 28#Stadium naming and Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 30#Stadium naming pt 2. These discussions show a consensus to move these articles to neutrally named articles. For this stadium the article name was Newcastle International Sports Centre. As consenus was reached I don't see any issue with moving it there. I'm just surprised it hasn't already been done, although I participated in the original discussion and had completely forgotten about it. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Move completed due to consensus reached here and here.  The Windler talk  07:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Ausgrid Stadium

While there are certainly reliable sources stating that the stadium name will (note future tense) change to "Ausgrid Stadium", I can't find any that confirm that it has changed. I drove past the stadium today and can confirm that as of 5PM all signage still proclaims it to be EnergyAustralia Stadium. Accordingly, until such time as the change is supported by reliable sources, I'm going to revert the latest changes and add a section to the article. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Hunter Stadium

From my understanding, "Hunter Stadium" isn't just another sponsored name but is the bona fide "normal/non-sponsored" name of the stadium. The article currently contradicts this. I would support moving the article to Hunter Stadium. Any other comments? -- Chuq (talk) 02:53, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The stadium's official name is actually something simple like "Stadium No. 1". It is now, and always has been that. The stadium was the first part of a grand plan to build the "International Sports Centre". Unfortunately, future parts were shelved and so the stadium took on the name of the entire project. In more recent years "Newcastle" was added, the ISC was expanded slightly and then the entire complex was renamed the "Hunter International Sports Centre". This seems to be where "Hunter Stadium" came from and, with no current sponsor, is probably why they're using the name, but it will change again once a new sponsor is announced. Per this discussion, in which you participated, which was followed up by this discussion, in which you also participated, it was decided to move articles to the more neutral names and provide redirects from sponsor and other names. Based on this the current location of the article is correct. There is a redirect from Hunter Stadium as per consensus. Claiming that "Hunter Stadium" is a sponsor name is clearly incorrect, as there is no sponsor, so I've fixed that, as well as updating the infobox and uploading a new logo. --AussieLegend (talk) 06:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Those discussions were focused on sponsored names, which are temporary, short-term, and based on a commercial arrangement. Hunter Stadium appears to be none of these. Saying "it will change again once a new sponsor is announced" I don't think is accurate - the ABC will still call it Hunter Stadium no doubt. Of course who is to say when a sponsor will be named - the SFS has been sponsorless for a few years now. -- Chuq (talk) 10:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The sponsored names have been used for a lot longer than Hunter Stadium, which has only been in use for only a few weeks. The sign didn't even go up until a few weeks ago. Prior to it being called "Marathon Stadium", it was only ever known as the International Sports Centre. --AussieLegend (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Ground Capacity - Earthquake Concert

As the Newcastle Herald Newspaper is cited regularly as a reference for this article I believe it is important to note today's article regarding The Newcastle Earthquake Concert. There is no mention of this very important community event in the article nor the fact that it holds the ground's attendance record for any specific event - which is 42,000+. I have no idea how to reference or change articles on Wikipedia but for those who do you might want to read this article.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1240152/videos-gallery-golden-gig-that-rocked-newcastle/?cs=305

It is pretty clear from this article that an Australian Rugby league match does not hold the attendance record for this ground.....but this very important past community event does — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.55.141 (talk) 05:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

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