Talk:Nicki Minaj/Archive 3
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Update pics
Can the pictures on this page be updated with more recent pics? It's like yall don't care how her page looks. Using all these bad pics is not cool. Her look this year>>>>> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826E:6839:696B:9D70:B6A5:DB20 (talk) 03:36, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, we do care ... however, since all pictures used on Wikipedia have to meet our strict image use policy, and we're not allowed to simply grab pics from elsewhere on the 'net due to WP:COPYRIGHT, we're kinda stuck with the ones we have ES&L 09:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Public Image
Wouldn't it be nice to state her recent change? She isn't the rapping harajuku Barbie anymore. She's herself said she is changing her style to grown & sexy. And the GP is noticing. She also attended this year's Fashion Week, and was one of the most talked about. And also you can include her tattoo and that it means, "God Is Always With Me", and how she hates it. Never getting one again. (I've seen it on many artists Wikipedia pages)I know I'm asking for a lot, but it'll be nice for people to know all this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826E:6839:696B:9D70:B6A5:DB20 (talk) 03:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- That sounds more like news as opposed to something encyclopedic ... and we'd need sources anyway ES&L 09:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Are you guys even Nicki fans? All I said just now is what every other artist have. I've seen on Rihanna's page talking about all her tattoos. And the style change is important. You can't say Nicki is known for her crazy wigs and outfits, and not say how her style has evolved over the years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826E:6839:955D:1F49:F8D6:87E9 (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, Wikipedia is not intended as a fansite, so your question "are you guys even fans" makes no sense. I'm a fan of the intent of this project. So, if you want to propose a change to the article, ensure it's sourced, then yeah, if it makes sense it can be added ES&L 09:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- This argument is petty. Obviously you must like Nicki to dedicate your name into this. I'm not so sure as to what I need to source. That's she doesn't wear a pink wig anymore? I can give you receipts about her new change of style, but I don't see the point in not including the tattoo part or Fashion Week. You guys have that she was given an expensive rolex by Hilfiger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30b:826d:1c69:f1e9:47a3:4b9d:9716 (talk) 04:21, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- No. I'm an administrator on this project as a whole - I have over 1100 articles on my watchlist. I was drawn to this article because of edit-warring by "fans" over images on this article some time ago, and continue to monitor it for repeat issues - and as such, I respond to policy-based questions ... like above and below ES&L 18:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Racial
Why is she categorized under African-American? She is not, since it is not a race. There is nothing wrong with using her Trinidadian origin, the term African-American is really out-dated and ignorant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foodie1234 (talk • contribs) 23:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- From the article thereon, "African Americans, also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, are citizens or residents of the United States who have total or partial ancestry from any of the native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa." She is of Afro-Trinidadian origin, so she meets the definition of the term. Because there are no subcategories for Afro-Trinidadian businesswomen, for example, it is reasonable to include her in the larger group of African American businesswomen. In my opinion, it's a better category fit than just labeling her an American businesswoman. —C.Fred (talk) 00:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Third album INFO
Nicki just announced that her 3rd studio album will be released in 2014. http://www.rap-up.com/2013/09/25/nicki-minaj-readies-new-album-for-2014/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826E:9BF9:9102:68B9:CB2A:7B37 (talk) 01:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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I think that they should begin with Maraj, for the last sentence that talks about '82-'06.
Fixer555 (talk) 03:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- If I understand you correctly, you're requesting that "Under Fendi's label, Minaj appeared on the popular street DVD "The Come Up Volume 11" that featured underground rappers from New York." be changed to "Under Fendi's label, Maraj appeared on the popular street DVD "The Come Up Volume 11" that featured underground rappers from New York." Thanks for the suggestion, but this would be inconsistent with the rest of the article, and also with Mos:bio#Subsequent_use. Please let us know if I've misunderstood your request. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 03:04, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
When it says Saint James. It should also say what city. Fixer555 (talk) 03:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- "Port of Spain" is in fact the name of the city containing Saint James, which is implied by the article's reference to Port of Spain as the capital of Trinidad and Tobago. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 03:04, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Associated acts
Nicki's song last chance features Natasha Bedingfield [1] [2] Sonic345 (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- The parameter is not for acts she has only collaborated with once or twice per Template: Infobox musical artist/doc. STATic message me! 06:28, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Main picture!!!
Can you please change the pic to something nice from 2013-2014? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.40.140 (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- If you could point us toward a more recent picture that is under a free license, we'd be glad to take a look at it. (We can't just scrape images from other websites.) However, the current picture is about the most recent free one we have. —C.Fred (talk) 22:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know the 1st place to look for that. LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.40.140 (talk) 06:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly. Most people believe we can just take pictures from anywhere and use them, but we cannot. ES&L 09:56, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
My Hitta
Can you add the My Hitta (N-word for explicit) remix to the 2014 information? It came out between BAB & Danny Glover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.40.140 (talk) 02:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- For the record, the IP is referring to the remix to "My Nigga", which Nicki is featured. Information and reliable sources for the content can be found in the remix section of the single's article. That is if anyone is interested in adding this, it did receive a retail release and a music video was shot. STATic message me! 03:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2014
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Nicki Minaj has a younger brother, 14 years of age who thinks of her as a "Boss" in his words. She also has a 16 year old cousin named Raven Angelica (Raven Sanchez). She too considers Nicki to be a great influence and role model. She hopes to be like her one day, in the music business taking on a rapping career.
RavenAngelSailormoon (talk) 07:27, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Please provide appropriate sources for those statements, and perhaps also try to convince us why those are even useful in an article about Nicki in order to gain WP:CONSENSUS to add them - this isn't about her brothers or cousins who have dreams (we all have dreams!) DP 10:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The Pink Print
Nicki said it might not be called The Pink Print. She's not decided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.40.140 (talk) 03:49, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
She's been referencing her upcoming album as the Pink Print on her official website and also labelmates have as well
Reader feedback: Add more pictures to describ...
24.211.30.178 posted this comment on 6 January 2014 (view all feedback).
Add more pictures to describe your articles but the rest of the information is perfect!
Any thoughts?
1flyguyrob (talk) 18:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Please find recent images for us to use. We aren't able to use images that are copyrighted without the photographer's permission --1flyguyrob (talk) 18:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
RESIZE photo : needs to be 300 x 450, not 1000 x 1500
The "image size" command does not seem to perform this function. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfoofnik (talk • contribs) 16:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Which photo? All of the photos are rendering correctly in my browser; I don't see any that are 1000 pixels in width as displayed here. The source images, since they're free, can be whatever resolution the uploader chooses. —C.Fred (talk) 21:47, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Never mind; I just looked at the edit history of the article and saw that the template for the infobox was repaired, which fixed the problem. —C.Fred (talk) 21:48, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2014
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Please add Whitney Houston as an influence because she cited her as one. Nicki Minaj and the article below cites Whitney Houston as one of them.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1701747/whitney-houston-influence.jhtml
Yashurresmith (talk) 02:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- The article says that Houston's influence lives on in Minaj (as well as some others) - but does not say that Minaj was influenced by Houston. There is a difference, I hope you see. Gloss • talk 02:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Nationality
Is it correct to call Miss Minaj "American"? She was born in Trinidad and Tobago, and was presumably a Trinidadian citizen - and may well still be a Trinidadian.Royalcourtier (talk) 06:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- If she has American citizenship, then yes. Since her birth nationality was not American, though, I would recommend something like "Trinidadian-born American". XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 03:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
The Hoodstars and Full Forcce
Can someone with more knowledge than I have sort out the first sentence in the "Career" section, which mentions the Hoodstars and Full Force? It does not make sense. - P123cat1 (talk) 22:25, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Clean-up
I have just finished copy-editing this article and have corrected many minor misquotes; all that remains is to sort out the reference to the Hoodstars, mentioned in the comment above. - P123cat1 (talk) 13:48, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Profile Picture
Can someone please update Nicki Minaj's picture to one that represents her look now, its a new era in a career and i think this page should represent that, maybe a picture from the 2014 MTV Movie Awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Right3y3 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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The photo in the infobox has become dated and no longer reflects on the singer's style of dress, and should be changed to a more recent photo. 75.91.233.230 (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- So, find a free-use image that we can use - not one that violates copyright, and we'll be happy to use it the panda ₯’ 22:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
what about pictures from her official instagram page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Right3y3 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Images from her Instagram account aren't free-use images, so they cannot be used on Wikipedia. KaneZolanski (talk) 08:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Feuds
Why have some of the feuds been removed? The content had references linked to New York Daily News, MTV, Billboard, etc. yet it's been removed by claims of being "not real" despite reliable sources. Yet the feuds with Lil Kim & Mariah Carey stay? If those feuds (which have similar references as the removed feuds) can stay then why did the other ones get removed? ChocoLantern88 (talk) 16:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- The reflist has been expanded with more references like New York Daily News, MTV News, Billboard, The Huffington Post, etc. being included to support the events. Refer to the ref-links for further proof if you feel like the events "did not occur". And if there is still an issue, please talkback on this discussion or my talk page and please elaborate on the issue. Thank you. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 19:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. A Feud is a LONG-RUNNING ARGUMENT with TWO PARTIES. There was NEVER a long running argument with BOTH parties with the people that were included in this section. With Foxy, according to the info given, Nicki never responded or addressed her negatively (so that was only one party) and the same can be said for the situation with Remy. For the other people given it was only a one-time dispute, and with that being said these cannot be considered feuds and it should be removed for the reasons given. Anyways, this is all I'll say on this matter. JACUBANHELADO (talk) 23:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- So good of you to join the discussion. You're providing neither a) proof that a feud is what you define it as, nor b) any policy-based reasoning for your removal - hence the reversion, and hence this discussion the panda ₯’ 23:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. I have already posted this on the OP's talk page. I think the main issue is that not every single feud needs to be included. It seems pointless to have detailed listings and such a large section dedicated to something that is only a small part of the artist. If you believe that all this information is useful and needed in such detail, I would suggest creating a Nicki Minaj feuds article solely focusing on these events. With a general feuds section on the main page paraphrasing the information with an URL link to the main article. Nick Minaj's page has "good article status", Which means it is held to a different standard. Just because another article does such it doesn't mean all articles should. I reiterate, If there is not enough information for a dedicated article, the paragraphs should be shortened and put into one uniform feuds section, briefly outlining them and their significance. KaneZolanski (talk) 00:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- And as I posted on my talk page: Not every single feud has been included, let alone, "in detail", as KaneZolanski claims. Some of the more noteworthy feuds like Remy and Foxy have been included due to the topics of them feuding have been mentioned in their interviews and in various media sites; there have been a few feuds that are in brief detail but highly profiled in mentioned in the other artists' interviews. The feuds section has been expanded, but a call for a separate page with the current amount is unnecessary at the moment. Unless Minaj's controversies are in excessive detail or further expanded, as opposed to now, like the following: List of Eminem feuds, 50 Cent feuds, Beef III; then there is no need for a separate page. The current content is equivalent to other American entertainers' main wiki pages (e.g. Ludacris, Ja Rule, T.I., alongside "GA" pages: Bruno Mars, Kanye West, ICP, etc.); and Minaj's page having a "GA" rating is no exemption, the aforementioned articles (List1, List2, etc.) have GA ratings, but they do not exempt the feuds let alone call for a separate page at the moment since they aren't in excessive detail. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 00:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose: I haven't edited this page in a while, but I nominated it successfully for GA status so I regularly keep an eye on it. I also believe I was the person who began the Feuds section of this article, writing the section about Lil' Kim. At that time, I thought it made sense to include this as the feud was well-discussed in reliable sources and Kim had dedicated a mixtape to Minaj (Black Friday) and Minaj supposedly referred to Kim in several songs on her debut album and early mixtapes ("Roman's Revenge", "Stupid Hoe"). In hindsight, I realise I should have incorporated this into the main body of the article, as it has grown incrementally into an indiscriminate collection of Minaj's disputes. Criticism, especially controversy sections, should be approached with caution, especially on biographies of living people. At this moment, I see this section as violating WP:BALASPS "[an article] should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to the weight of that aspect in the body of reliable sources on the subject", WP:STRUCTURE's guideline to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other and WP:UNDUE's requirement for coverage that reflects prevalence in reliable sources. I think this whole Feuds section should (1) be considerably reduced as its current coverage is too excessive and (2) be incorporated into the main body as opposed to the current standalone section. Best, —JennKR | ☎ 19:48, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Article revamping
Unfortunately, this article seems to have deteriorated considerably since it was promoted for GA a couple years ago (how time flies!) I'm concerned that if the article remains in its current condition, an editor will likely bring up the page for GAR, and the article will not be able to keep its badge. If possible, I would like to gather a group of editors so we can work together to repair the article and get it back to its original condition (or better!). Pinging @1flyguyrob, JennKR, Acalamari, KaneZolanski, and IPadPerson: (a combination of the article's most frequent editors by count and more recent editors according to revision history) for their opinions, suggestions, or possible interest in participating in this effort. Below I've also included a list of all the prose sections in the article, so notes can be made for progress or suggestions. WikiRedactor (talk) 18:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
WikiRedactor, I have been sharing your concerns. It seems as though interest in adding and inputting new information has declined. Just a few weeks ago the -Present section was filled with one line, unstructured information about some of Minaj's new releases, I had to reword and create some sort of structure. Minaj's new music and endeavorers aren't even mentioned, and if they are it is only brief. Maybe if we can at least try to keep this article up to date and active we can keep the GA, but at the moment it seems as though this article has become stagnant with editors seeming uninterested. The whole feuds section is extremely large. A dedicated article surrounding Nicki Minaj feuds should be created, in the same style as other rappers have theirs. Once that is created the section can be relabelled feuds and controversies, without subheadings, just paraphrasing the information into something more encyclopaedia and informative. The whole article is need need for revamping, hopefully other editors will get involved in order to retain and maintain this current GA. Pinging JACUBANHELADO, Thevampireashlee, Jennie, STATicVapor and C.Fred for their help/suggestions. KaneZolanski (talk) 19:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- @KaneZolanski: Funny that you mention the "Feuds" section, because before I checked in on this discussion I was cleaning up the sections for Lil' Kim and Mariah Carey, which I felt were weighed down by several quotes that can easily be paraphrased. A separate article detailing her feuds is certainly an interesting proposal that can definitely help free up this parent article. Clearly the article is quite large, so if we could each "adopt" a couple sections to clean up and rework, we will be able to keep the page on the right track. WikiRedactor (talk) 19:38, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I share your concerns WikiRedactor, but I think this "Feuds" sections should be handled in an entirely different way. I'm quite opposed to opening a separate article for this. I'll include the important point here, in order to gage your (and everyone else who is pinged/involved) opinion on my proposal in the earlier discussion:
- At this moment, I see this section as violating WP:BALASPS "[an article] should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to the weight of that aspect in the body of reliable sources on the subject", WP:STRUCTURE's guideline to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other and WP:UNDUE's requirement for coverage that reflects prevalence in reliable sources. I think this whole Feuds section should (1) be considerably reduced as its current coverage is too excessive and (2) be incorporated into the main body as opposed to the current standalone section. —JennKR | ☎ 19:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- You actually make a great point, Minaj's "feuds" aren't an aspect of Minaj's career that should garner such weight in comparison to others. With the feuds being inputted into the main body under the dates that they fell under, it would create a more encyclopaedia and conclusive read. There shouldn't be any more than a few lines for each feud at most. KaneZolanski (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I share your concerns WikiRedactor, but I think this "Feuds" sections should be handled in an entirely different way. I'm quite opposed to opening a separate article for this. I'll include the important point here, in order to gage your (and everyone else who is pinged/involved) opinion on my proposal in the earlier discussion:
The seperate feuds page will be restored since the overall agreement is that the former content was deemed 'excessive'. Brief feud section will likely take effect. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 03:27, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
List
- Introduction
- Requested a copy-edit from the Guild of Copyeditors. (KaneZolanski)
- Early life and career beginnings
- 2007–09: Mixtapes and Young Money ( Done)
- "Remy Ma" merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- "Other controversies" partially merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- Completely rewritten, references verified/added on August 13 (WikiRedactor)
- 2010–11: Pink Friday ( Done)
- "Foxy Brown" merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- "Lil' Kim" partially merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- Completely rewritten, references verified/added on August 13 and 14 (WikiRedactor)
- 2012–13: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded and American Idol ( Done)
- "Lil' Kim" partially merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- "Mariah Carey" merged into this section (WikiRedactor)
- Initial rewriting done on August 13 (WikiRedactor)
- Completely rewritten, references verified/added on August 14 (WikiRedactor)
- 2014: The Other Woman and The Pinkprint
- Public image
- Alter egos
- Musical style
- Influences
Endorsements
- This section condensed into "Products and endorsements" (WikiRedactor)
Fashion endeavors
- This section condensed into "Products and endorsements" (WikiRedactor)
- Products and endorsements
- Initial rewriting done on August 14 (WikiRedactor)
- Personal life
Remy Ma
- This section merged into "2007–09" (WikiRedactor)
Lil' Kim
- This section merged into "2010–11" and "2012–13" (WikiRedactor)
Foxy Brown
- Removed due to non-encyclopaedic content mostly including gossip/rumours. (KaneZolanski)
Mariah Carey
- This section merged into "2012–13" (WikiRedactor)
Other controversies
- This section partially merged into "2007–09", partially deleted altogether (WikiRedactor)
Born in Port Spain
She was born in the city of Port Spain.
- Yes, she was born in Saint James, Port of Spain ... that's what the article says the panda ₯’ 19:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2014
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The last line under "Artistry" is: Although Minaj was rapping in songs such as "All I Do Is Win (Remix)", she promised to introduce Nicki, Roman and Onika on her first slbum.
It should be: Although Minaj was rapping in songs such as "All I Do Is Win (Remix)", she promised to introduce Nicki, Roman and Onika on her first album. Pangelboy (talk) 02:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2014
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associated acts: 2chainz 90.209.19.106 (talk) 23:42, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 00:14, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Grammar fix needed
Article is locked. "Minaj's colorful costumes, wigs and clothing has given her recognition as a fashion icon." These are multiple things so "has" must become "have". 86.130.249.236 (talk) 22:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- Done —C.Fred (talk) 01:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2014
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Danieldowntown (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC) I don't want to edit anything, except for the picture displaying her. It's two years old let's update it. :)
- Not done - I'm afraid we can't - Thank the tossers who prefer to label there images under the "© All rights reserved" license. –Davey2010 • (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Fans whitewashing artist page
It appears that some fans are attempting a whitewashing of the artist's page by simply deleting references to controversies. I'd suggest that the regular editors keep an eye out for this kind of behavior for the next few days as some content has recently been added (or re-added from prior deletion). I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 06:29, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Deleted controversy section
Content removed by fans again....
==Controversies==
- Nip slip on ABC's Good Morning America – On August 7, 2011, Nicki experienced a "nip slip" during a live performance on Good Morning America's Summer Concert Series. Minaj was criticized for wearing the low-cut shirt during her performance which led to the brief exposure of her breast on a live telecast. ABC apologized for incident.[3] Minaj, while interviewed on ABC's Nightline show, apologized for the incident and denied that she intentionally sought to expose herself on live television as a publicity stunt.[4] The incident soaked protest from the Parents Television Council. President of the PTC president Tim Winter stated "The Parents Television Council has something to say about Nicki Minaj’s wardrobe malfunction this morning. For the umpteenth time in recent memory a morning news show has included inappropriate content for children and families." Winter called out Good Morning America for not using the five-second delay to prevent the broadcast of the exposure.[5]
- Use of a "Pope" in the 2012 Grammy Awards – Catholic groups, including the American Catholic League criticized Minaj for bringing a fake "Pope" to escort her at her February 12, 2012 red carpet appearance at the 2012 Grammy Awards. The "exorcism" scene that was performed during her appearance was criticized as well.[6][7] According to the Catholic League president Bill Donohue "Perhaps the most vulgar part was the sexual statement that showed a scantily clad female dancer stretching backwards while an altar boy knelt between her legs in prayer. Finally, 'Come All Ye Faithful' was sung while a man posing as a bishop walked on stage; Minaj was shown levitating."[7][8]
- Use of Nazi imagery in Only music video – Minaj released a lyric music video for her song "Only" in early November 2014, premiering close to the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, with visualizations inspired by the Nazi Regime and the work of Leni Riefenstahl.[9] There was immediate backlash from fans, calling the video anti-semitic and insensitive. Many fans expressed their outrage on social media websites like Twitter, Tumblr, and Oh No They Didn't.[10][11][12] The Anti Defamation League stated "It is troubling that no one among Minaj's group of producers, publicists and managers raised a red flag about the use of such imagery before ushering the video into public release." The ADL called the "Only" video "insensitive to Holocaust survivors and a trivialization of the history of that era. The abuse of Nazi imagery is deeply disturbing and offensive to Jews and all those who can recall the sacrifices Americans and many others had to make as a result of Hitler's Nazi juggernaut."[13]
- ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Bedingfield
- ^ http://www.4music.com/artists/78/Nicki-Minaj (on the video)
- ^ "The 10 Most Controversial Moments of Nicki Minaj's Career, Pg. 8." Vibe. June 5, 2012.
- ^ Johnson, Zach. "Nicki Minaj addresses Good Morning America nip slip, "it wasn't a stunt." US Magazine. April 10, 2012.
- ^ "Nicki Minaj Nip Slip: ABC Apologized, PTC protests." EurWeb.com. Accessed November 23, 2014.
- ^ "The 10 Most Controversial Moments of Nicki Minaj's Career, Pg. 2." Vibe. June 5, 2012.
- ^ a b [1]
- ^ "Is Nicki Minaj Possessed?" CatholicLeague.org. The Catholic Leage. February 13, 2012.
- ^ Stutz, Colin. "Watch Nicki Minaj's Totalitarian 'Only' Lyric Video With Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown". Billboard. Retrieved 8 November 2014.
- ^ Zupkus, Lauren. "People Aren't Happy With The Nazi Imagery In Nicki Minaj's 'Only' Lyric Video". The Huffington Post. Retrieved 10 November 2014.
- ^ "Nicki Minaj Channels Hitler & Nazi Imagery in Lyric Video for "Only"". Oh No They Didn't. Retrieved 8 November 2014.
- ^ Zuel, Bernard. "Nicki Minaj accused of toying with Nazi imagery in Only clip". The Sunday Morning Herald. Retrieved 10 November 2014.
- ^ Drakeford, Cortney. "New Song 'Only' Racist to Jewish People: Drake Dresses as Priest as Chris Brown Plays Nazi Soldier in MUSIC." Fashion Times. November 10, 2014.
This deletion of sourced material constitutes vandalism under WP policy. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 05:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Section updated with ADL statement on Nazi video. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 09:52, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- While we're on the subject I think the feuds page should be formed to include detailed disputes but excluding any tabloid info to produce a neutral point of view.ChocoLantern88 (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2014
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The Pinkprint Tour has its own Wikipedia page; therefore, it should be linked. Thepinkprints (talk) 04:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2014
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jkhgu Cbs1982 (talk) 13:21, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. (@Cbs1982:). Anupmehra -Let's talk! 13:59, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Explanation of stage name
Originally adopting the stage name "Nicki Maraj", she changed it to Nicki Minaj: "My real name is Maraj. Fendi flipped it when he met me because I had such a nasty flow! I eat bitches!"
I think it might be helpful to explain this in further detail – particularly how "Minaj" is a likely reference to the term ménage à trois. Are there any sources that discuss this more? –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Picture change request
I don't know what all the rules are on the main pictures of living people, but I feel like it should be changed. That picture is over three years old now. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- The picture is a little over two years old, not three, and it appears to be the most recent free image of her available. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Feuds
I understand back in August 2014 there was a debate on the feuds discussion. A separate feuds page should be considered since there has been so much back and forth problems and to establish neutrality. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Bluewater Comics
In the products and endorsement section it states: "In February Bluewater Comics announced that Minaj would star in the Fame biographical-comic series, debuting in Fame: Nicki Minaj." This seems to imply endorsement of the comic on behalf of Nicki Minaj, which is not the case. It is unauthorized (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluewater_Productions). I don't know how to enact a change to reflect this. Perhaps re-write as "In February Bluewater Comics announced that Minaj would star in the unauthorized Fame biographical-comic series, debuting in Fame: Nicki Minaj." Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.183.19.110 (talk) 17:33, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Autograph
You should add her autograph to the page, since most celebs have the autograph attached to theirs.
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/205/c/0/nicki_minaj_signature_by_bmaraj-d6eyt0h.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.163.155 (talk) 21:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj's Filmography - TV Appearances
Nicki made a short 1-episode appearance on the Cartoon Network show "Steven Universe". This show has a significant audience and Nicki played part an important character. She performed excellent voice acting and is unaccredited on her main wiki. Here is her page on the Steven Universe wiki: [1] Chicken Strip11 (talk) 05:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj Fan Culture
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Nicki Minaj's fans call themselves Barbz, a term Nicki Minaj says she created and her fans caught on and started calling themselves this. [2]
Nicki Minaj keeps up with her fans regularity staying active on twitter by tweeting, replying to fans and retweets fans posts. [3]
Nicki Minaj also often signs female fan's breast(s) as an autograph, she says “signing my name on chicks’ breasts empowers me." [4]
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References
- ^ http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Nicki_Minaj
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indian descent and name
before she hit it big, this article had her name written in hindi script or another indian language, as she is park indian descent (and her family name) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.81.170 (talk) 13:19, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Typo...
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...in first para of Early Life section - "Afro-Trinidian". Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:59, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's a simple typo, see no reason not to fix it. Guettarda (talk) 20:14, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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EDIT REQUEST: Nicki Minaj does not consider herself "American"
I know that there has been a lot of debate about this on this page, but I just wanted to add another wrench to the situation -- Nicki Minaj describes herself as "NOT AMERICAN". http://www.vogue.com/10650415/nicki-minaj-interview-feminism-pinkprint This is the quote directly: "I love being able to say, I’m not American, I’m Trini. I think it gives me so much more depth. I’m able to connect with people who aren’t just Americans, but so many West Indian people no matter where they come from can identify with me just off the strength that they know we have something in common." I think it would be REALLY inappropriate to describe her as an "American" rapper on this page at this point...I'd like to request an edit--mikomango mwa! 14:34, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- *Support, there is no evidence provided that she ever became an American citizen, or that she doesn't hold dual citizenship. She states that she isn't American, and she was born in Trinidad. There shouldn't be debate at this point. Kane (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- There are plenty of sources that cite Nicki Minaj as an "American" artist/rapper. Here are just a few: Encyclopedia Britannica, TMZ, Ynetnews, and Hollywood Life. We don't need evidence that explicitly states she's an American citizen in order to refer to her as an American artist. If reliable sources are referring to her as such, then the designation is acceptable on Wikipedia. --GoneIn60 (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- *Support, TMZ, Encyclopedia sites, and other news sources are really not reliable in this case. On a few articles, I've changed her nationality to Trinidadian and backed it up with a source that EXPLICITLY quotes Minaj saying "I'm not American, I'm Trini"[1] why are we taking the word of gossip sites such as TMZ over her own words? I'm surprised this is even up for debate frankly. -- Azealia911 (talk) 07:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your criticism of the above sources is bewildering. The Encyclopedia Britannica is a world-reknowned encyclopedia, not just some random online web source. The article at that link was created by the encyclopedia's editors. Furthermore, Ynetnews is part of Yedioth Media Group, which publishes the most widely-read newspaper in Israel. I only listed a few sources, by the way. There are many, many more where that came from. You're banking your claim on one source, a primary source no less, and making your own assessment of the meaning of what she said. I could read that same answer in the interview and propose that she was playfully referring to herself as Trini first, American second, because she goes on to say, "I’m able to connect with people who aren’t just Americans, but so many West Indian people..." When placed in full context, she's obviously saying that in addition to being able to connect with Americans, she's able to connect with the "West Indian" culture. This should not be taken literally to mean she's not American. It's a moot point, since per WP:SECONDARY, we rely more on secondary sources than we do on primary. --GoneIn60 (talk) 07:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thought I would add that although TMZ should be used with caution on Wikipedia, it is generally accepted as a reliable source. You can search the archives on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard for a history on the acceptance of this source. Here's one to save you time. --GoneIn60 (talk) 08:11, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your criticism of the above sources is bewildering. The Encyclopedia Britannica is a world-reknowned encyclopedia, not just some random online web source. The article at that link was created by the encyclopedia's editors. Furthermore, Ynetnews is part of Yedioth Media Group, which publishes the most widely-read newspaper in Israel. I only listed a few sources, by the way. There are many, many more where that came from. You're banking your claim on one source, a primary source no less, and making your own assessment of the meaning of what she said. I could read that same answer in the interview and propose that she was playfully referring to herself as Trini first, American second, because she goes on to say, "I’m able to connect with people who aren’t just Americans, but so many West Indian people..." When placed in full context, she's obviously saying that in addition to being able to connect with Americans, she's able to connect with the "West Indian" culture. This should not be taken literally to mean she's not American. It's a moot point, since per WP:SECONDARY, we rely more on secondary sources than we do on primary. --GoneIn60 (talk) 07:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- *Support, TMZ, Encyclopedia sites, and other news sources are really not reliable in this case. On a few articles, I've changed her nationality to Trinidadian and backed it up with a source that EXPLICITLY quotes Minaj saying "I'm not American, I'm Trini"[1] why are we taking the word of gossip sites such as TMZ over her own words? I'm surprised this is even up for debate frankly. -- Azealia911 (talk) 07:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- There are plenty of sources that cite Nicki Minaj as an "American" artist/rapper. Here are just a few: Encyclopedia Britannica, TMZ, Ynetnews, and Hollywood Life. We don't need evidence that explicitly states she's an American citizen in order to refer to her as an American artist. If reliable sources are referring to her as such, then the designation is acceptable on Wikipedia. --GoneIn60 (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Discussion has also taken part at User talk:Calvin999#Reverts (Nicki Minaj) with a solution. I am in favour of using just "Trinidadian songwriter and rapper" in her bio, and "Trinidadian (with American citizenship)" in her info box (providing a source saying she does have American citizenship). As I say in my talk page, she is first and fore most Trinidadian (parents, place of birth, blood, passport) and simply lives in America, so it is hugely inaccurate to say that she is solely American. — ₳aron 09:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I wouldn't call that a solution. There is a fundamental problem here. First, a person's nationality is defined as "the status of belonging to a particular nation". Where a person was born or lived for a very short period of time does not necessarily define that person's nationality. This should be obvious. Nicki Minaj has lived in the U.S. most of her life and became famous there. It makes less sense to refer to her as Trinidadian. That is not what she is known for. Secondly, addressing the argument above, we have a primary source that states one thing, and several secondary sources that state another. The primary source is being overridden by multiple secondary sources. Per WP:PSTS, secondary sources outweigh primary sources for reasons given in that policy guideline. And finally, the MOS guideline MOS:BLPLEAD states, "the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident" should be used. So all this bickering about where she was born, seeing evidence of citizenship, etc., is unnecessary. There are two Wikipedia guidelines that support the use of the term "American" or "Trinidadian-born American". I am fine with either. --GoneIn60 (talk) 09:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- You hound me to take part in discussion, others are also disagreeing with you, then you suddenly decide that you don't accept what we are saying and go ahead and revert me, and implementing what we are all saying shouldn't be implemented! What you are saying about America giving Minaj fame thus she is American is the biggest pile of canine excrement I've ever heard. You are rejecting everything that even Minaj herself is saying; that she is Trinidadian with American citizenship. This does not make her American by itself. You asked for a discussion to take place, so let it take place. Don't throw a strop and revert me on 10 or so articles just because no one is disagreeing with you. It's pathetic and embarrassing. You say you are fine with either terminology, but I notice that you implement the one that you obviously believe to be the only correct terminology. Someone who is born in Trinidad to Trinidadian parents of Trinidadian blood and descent with Trinidadian citizenship rights by birth does not become American and stripped of all her Trinidadian-ness just because she moves to America aged five (she wouldn't even have been granted citizenship for at least 10 years, I know this from personal experience). — ₳aron 22:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- The purpose of "nationality" in the infobox is to identify the locale in which she became known. American, fine. Trinidadian-American is also OK because has maintained her Trinidadian citizenship, so it isn't a mere ethnicity? Trinidadian by itself? No. American raised, American resident, and rose to fame in America. Her "self-identification" is irrelevant.—Kww(talk) 00:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- You've ignored everything I said. Achieving success in America doesn't make you American. If she was born in Trinidad to American parents, I would 100% agree with you. But she wasn't. She is first and foremost Trinidadian. And she has said that herself. You really don't have a leg to stand on with this, and no one else in this thread agrees with you. So I'm afraid you've just got to accept it and move on. — ₳aron 08:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Calvin999:First of all, I reverted the articles back to their original condition. I didn't select or implement anything. When having a discussion to sort out opposing views, it's common courtesy to revert the article back to a previous revision before the disagreement took place. That's all I was doing – no need to get all huffy-puffy.
You say you are fine with either terminology
- Yes, I'm fine with "American" or "Trinidadian-born American". Are you saying you are too? "Trinidadian" and "Trinidadian-American" are not acceptable in my opinion based on my earlier comments.
Someone who is born in Trinidad to Trinidadian parents of Trinidadian blood and descent with Trinidadian citizenship rights by birth does not become American and stripped of all her Trinidadian-ness just because she moves to America aged five
- You are still confusing ethnicity with nationality. These are two different terms. If we were talking about ethnicity, you would be absolutely correct. However, nationality doesn't work the same way. We don't have a source that says she's still a citizen of Trinidad, and her comments that she's Trini doesn't provide the necessary reassurance. For example, in normal conversation, if you were half Indian and half French, you could easily say you're Indian or French in any conversation on a whim, but that wouldn't necessarily mean you have dual-citizenship in both countries. That's why we can't take her comments literally to mean citizenship, a big factor in determining nationality. When we don't have a definite source for citizenship, we go by the person's permanent residence.
You've ignored everything I said
- No, we are not ignoring your comments. We are trying to focus on the Manual of Style's guideline MOS:BLPLEAD and Wikipedia's policy concerning WP:PSTS. You, actually, have yet to address these points which hold significant weight in this discussion. --GoneIn60 (talk) 12:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- The only thing American about Minaj is her citizenship. Nothing else. Referring to her as American throughout her articles will only incur user and editors to change to at least Trinidadian-American or Trinidadian. — ₳aron 12:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I can see that as a valid concern. That's why I suggested "Trinidadian-born American", a term that is used in at least one reliable source. Are you OK with this, or is further discussion needed? --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Also, in song articles, it would be best to leave out the nationality in the opening line. It's only necessary to mention that in the main Nicki Minaj article. If we leave it out, then there will be less challenges to contend with from other editors. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- The only thing American about Minaj is her citizenship. Nothing else. Referring to her as American throughout her articles will only incur user and editors to change to at least Trinidadian-American or Trinidadian. — ₳aron 12:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Calvin999, I didn't ignore everything you said. I read it, decided that you were incorrect on all points, and refuted your position. First, we do not care what nationality Minaj self-identifies as. Self-identification is not a factor in determining what we list as the nationality in the lead. The nationality in the lead is the nation she was a permanent resident of when she rose to fame. We make some allowances for things like "Trinidian-American" when the persons is a citizen of one country and resident in another. But we list people that were raised in America, rose to fame in America, and live in America as "American".—Kww(talk) 15:08, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Kww but your point about Minaj being American being partially supported by the fact it's where she rose to fame is really starting to get me heated. Is Iggy Azalea also American because that's where she permanently took residence while she rose to fame? How about Charli XCX? Someone becoming prominent in an area that they are aslo incidentally living in has absolutely nothing to do with their nationality. Azealia911 (talk) 15:24, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Further note, I actually think Iggy Azalea is a brilliant case in point here. She was born in Australia to an all-Australian family, she moved to the states at aged 16, permanently lives there, rose to fame there, has never gained citizenship. Most of this correlates to Nicki's circumstances, yet nobody has any issue referring to Azalea as solely Australian. Why is this case any different? Azealia911 (talk) 15:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Azealia911, the term nationality is typically defined as "the fact or status of being a member or citizen of a particular nation", and that's how we're using the term here. Minaj is clearly a member of the United States and likely a citizen, so to say her nationality is American is correct. Her ethnic background may be different, which is where I think you and ₳aron are focusing your attention, but per MOS:BLPLEAD, the focus should not be on ethnicity or even past nationalities. The current nationality is what matters and deserves mention here. I don't understand why both of you are ignoring a Manual of Style guideline, or at the very least, failing to address it. --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- But it has everything to do with how we list people in the lead of an encyclopedia article about them. We list the locale of their activities and don't concern ourselves much with what their legal citizenship is. From WP:BLPLEAD, "permanent resident" is one of the criteria, including "permanent resident when the person became notable". The main advantage of that system is that it is readily verifiable and avoids edit wars like this one. When it does become an issue, I usually argue in favour of eliminating it entirely. As for Azalea, I wasn't aware of her case (unsurprisingly, I consider the nationality of rappers to be a mind-numbingly insignificant topic), but I believe our policies and guidelines would support describing her as "American", not "Australian".—Kww(talk) 15:39, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Azealia911:As for your point about Iggy, you are right that it's another example of what's going on in this article. In my opinion, it is wrong too. We need to fix the issue here or at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies first, and then start making changes across all articles. That would be the next step. --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Describing Iggy Azalea as American is honestly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If you said to Azalea's face "You're American," I'm pretty sure she would tell you that she's not in a rap (pun intended). Likewise with Minaj above, Azalea was born in Australia to AU parents, has AU citizenship by birth and is a AU national, moved to the US aged 16 (now 24), has spent the majority of her life in Australia and doesn't have American citizenship (meaning that she does not have an American passport). The amount of editing and changing problems we will face if we describe Minaj and Azalea as American's in their biographies and music articles would be light putting a match to a flame with readers. We already have it with Leona Lewis with readers changing her nationality to English from British (Lewis the is latter, as she has a Welsh mother and Guyanese father, thus not English). MoS is wrong on principle and needs addressing. Shakira is based in the US, but her bio says Columbian. Rihanna is based in the US, but her bio says Barbadian. Enrique Iglesias is based in the US, but his bio says Spanish. You could ever argue that Kylie Minogue is based in the UK, but her bio says Australian. For Minaj, at least, her info box should have a nationality parameter which says something along the lines of "Trinidadian, with American citizenship", but her bio should only say Trinidadian. Use Kylie Minogue as an example of this. — ₳aron 18:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- The MoS is correct in principle. We have unfortunately gotten into the habit of caring what people think about themselves and using that as an argument for how we describe them. Self-identification should not weigh at all in our considerations.—Kww(talk) 19:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- ₳aron, thank you for your insight on the issue. I share many of the same concerns. However, the MOS guideline is in place and any effort to go against it or have it changed should be made at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies, where it will get the most attention from editors concerned with that style guideline. Ignoring it here is not the way to do it. Also, I would like to point out that I'm not proposing a blanket change across all articles based on any particular rule. Every article should be treated on a case-by-case basis. The examples you just listed do not all fall under the same umbrella. Rihanna only came to the states in adulthood, and we don't have sources that say she immigrated or became a citizen. There's no reason to classify her as "American". Shakira and Kylie Minogue all became famous in their respective countries of origin. For these reasons, the articles do not violate the MOS guideline, and therefore, don't need to be changed. I still feel that Nicki Minaj is a special case situation, since she immigrated to U.S. when she was very young and rose to prominence there. Also don't forget we have secondary sources that have classified her as American. Finally, I'm still waiting for a response to going with "Trinidadian-born American" as a compromise for now. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- She can only be described as American if it can be sourced that she does indeed have American citizenship, and even then, that makes her Trinidadian-American, same as how Angela Lansbury gaining American citizenship makes her British-American. Iggy Azalea doesn't have US citizenship, therefore she cannot be described as being Australian-American or American, only Australian. She simply lives in America, and America is not her domestic market, it's Australia. — ₳aron 23:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Describing Iggy Azalea as American is honestly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If you said to Azalea's face "You're American," I'm pretty sure she would tell you that she's not in a rap (pun intended). Likewise with Minaj above, Azalea was born in Australia to AU parents, has AU citizenship by birth and is a AU national, moved to the US aged 16 (now 24), has spent the majority of her life in Australia and doesn't have American citizenship (meaning that she does not have an American passport). The amount of editing and changing problems we will face if we describe Minaj and Azalea as American's in their biographies and music articles would be light putting a match to a flame with readers. We already have it with Leona Lewis with readers changing her nationality to English from British (Lewis the is latter, as she has a Welsh mother and Guyanese father, thus not English). MoS is wrong on principle and needs addressing. Shakira is based in the US, but her bio says Columbian. Rihanna is based in the US, but her bio says Barbadian. Enrique Iglesias is based in the US, but his bio says Spanish. You could ever argue that Kylie Minogue is based in the UK, but her bio says Australian. For Minaj, at least, her info box should have a nationality parameter which says something along the lines of "Trinidadian, with American citizenship", but her bio should only say Trinidadian. Use Kylie Minogue as an example of this. — ₳aron 18:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- You've ignored everything I said. Achieving success in America doesn't make you American. If she was born in Trinidad to American parents, I would 100% agree with you. But she wasn't. She is first and foremost Trinidadian. And she has said that herself. You really don't have a leg to stand on with this, and no one else in this thread agrees with you. So I'm afraid you've just got to accept it and move on. — ₳aron 08:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I admit, I know very little about Iggy Azalea's situation, but I would agree that she should be referred to as Australian and not American. However, I don't base that decision on the ability to see official documents on citizenship. I base it on what I've seen in reliable news sources. That is the same thing I'm doing with Nicki Minaj. I look at the MOS guideline as a backup, which implies we can go with permanent residence in the absence of confirmation on citizenship. But completely tossing that out of the discussion for a moment, there are still reliable sources that refer to her as being American. That should be enough. We are not expected to do the research ourselves. There's a reason why WP:OR and WP:RS exist. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:24, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- But we all know news and media sources can get things wrong or confused. When it comes to citizenship, the only valid piece of sourcing would be her documentation, not what a reporter thinks she is or describes her as. I still say the best term would be "Trinidadian-American", as "Trinidadian-born American" is too long winded. I bet Minaj has a house in Trinidad, too, and still retains a Trinidadian passport. — ₳aron 09:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your bets notwithstanding, do you have any reliable sources that indicate that she "has a house in Trinidad, and still retains a Trinidadian passport"? Or is "Trinidadian" a mere ethnicity, information we routinely remove from all leads?—Kww(talk) 16:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Can you source that she has American citizenship and an American passport? — ₳aron 17:22, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- No, but I can source that she rose to fame in the US, which is all that is required to list her as "American" in the lead. The kind of edit-war you have staged in this article is part of the reason that our MoS uses that as a rule and discourages inclusion of ethnicity.—Kww(talk) 17:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Where does it say that where someone rose to fame qualifies this change? Because if that's a real MoS thing, it needs changing, or at least tweaking. Iggy Azalea isn't American, Rihanna isn't American, Charli XCX isn't American, yet they all rose to fame in America, so they're American? Azealia911 (talk) 18:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- I see that numerous people in this discussion have linked to WP:BLPLEAD. Have you read it yet?—Kww(talk) 18:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- I think both sides have stated their case fairly well. At this point, the discussion is circling back around to making the same arguments in different ways. The next step is to ask other editors to weigh in so we can get a consensus. Before asking, however, we need to summarize the discussion and bring the sources in question to the forefront. ₳aron, please list the sources you'd like considered that refer to Nicki Minaj as "Trinidadian" or "Trinidadian-American". --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Well, Kww, there's my point. Proving that she rose to fame in the US is already obvious, and has nothing to do with her being considered an American. Achieving fame in America does not make you American. Leona Lewis achieved fame in the US, does that make her American, too? And Adele? And One Direction? Jessie J is English, but only got signed in the US, does that make her American, too? To put it simply, you can't base someones nationality and citizenship on where they rose to fame or the amount of success they had. It's ludicrous And Minaj achieved famed relatively late, too. — ₳aron 09:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your point is that you are free to contradict our MoS at whim, based on your personal opinion? That's not a very strong debating point.—Kww(talk) 13:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- In complete honesty, I realise that the MoS seems to be regarded as some kind of almighty bible on wikipedia, but like the bible there really seems to be some points that make no sense at all. I fail to see why where someone became famous should be any key to what their nationality is. Is this rule just for musicians? What would happen if an ordinary english person moved to another country and committed a high profile crime in America for the sake of argument, would they then be American? The MoS needs changing if this is the case. Azealia911 (talk) 13:42, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not personal opinion, it's called having common sense, though I appreciate not all persons are blessed with this trait. Prove that Minaj has attained American citizenship, Kww, and then I will agree that articles should say Trinidadian-American. — ₳aron 13:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your common sense is my gateway to hell, Calvin. Having the nationality in the lead be a locale saves us innumerable battles, both because citizenship is rarely sourceable and self-identity is so unreliable. You two can start an RFC to change to MoS, by the way. It's not cast in stone, it just serves its purpose: trying to establish some consistent rules over the millions of articles in this project. What you think needs to be proved is completely irrelevant unless and until the guidelines and MoS come into alignment with what you demand.—Kww(talk) 14:02, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- You can't source her American citizenship, and Minaj openly says "I'm Trini, not American". That's it, end of. You keep saying that MoS says about where a person has lived etc., but if you can't source it, you can't include it. You know that and I know that. I personally can't see how you can still argue to have American included when nothing indicates to her being American. prize example of when a guideline is wrong. Achieving fame in a country that is not your birth country does not automatically make you a citizen of that country. Most singers are clear cut, but only a few such as Minaj is causing a problem. — ₳aron 14:07, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I am not now, nor have I ever, said that she's an American citizen. I don't care what country she's a citizen of, and the locale in the lead isn't necessarily citizenship. Even more importantly, I don't care what Minaj claims to be. Most often, the nationality in the lead is the locale in which the person performs or is notable. That's how our guidelines read. Feel free to try to change the guidelines, but until you do, listing her as "American" is in conformance with them.—Kww(talk) 14:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree that this is usually the case. Mariah Carey was born in America and most often performs there. Leona Lewis was born in Britain and most often performs here. But the only thing American about Minaj is that she lives there, and that it is her biggest market. Nothing else. — ₳aron 15:13, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- So, only the two key elements we use in our decision making process. Feel free to try to gain consensus that our guidelines and MOS are wrong.—Kww(talk) 16:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree that this is usually the case. Mariah Carey was born in America and most often performs there. Leona Lewis was born in Britain and most often performs here. But the only thing American about Minaj is that she lives there, and that it is her biggest market. Nothing else. — ₳aron 15:13, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I am not now, nor have I ever, said that she's an American citizen. I don't care what country she's a citizen of, and the locale in the lead isn't necessarily citizenship. Even more importantly, I don't care what Minaj claims to be. Most often, the nationality in the lead is the locale in which the person performs or is notable. That's how our guidelines read. Feel free to try to change the guidelines, but until you do, listing her as "American" is in conformance with them.—Kww(talk) 14:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- You can't source her American citizenship, and Minaj openly says "I'm Trini, not American". That's it, end of. You keep saying that MoS says about where a person has lived etc., but if you can't source it, you can't include it. You know that and I know that. I personally can't see how you can still argue to have American included when nothing indicates to her being American. prize example of when a guideline is wrong. Achieving fame in a country that is not your birth country does not automatically make you a citizen of that country. Most singers are clear cut, but only a few such as Minaj is causing a problem. — ₳aron 14:07, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your common sense is my gateway to hell, Calvin. Having the nationality in the lead be a locale saves us innumerable battles, both because citizenship is rarely sourceable and self-identity is so unreliable. You two can start an RFC to change to MoS, by the way. It's not cast in stone, it just serves its purpose: trying to establish some consistent rules over the millions of articles in this project. What you think needs to be proved is completely irrelevant unless and until the guidelines and MoS come into alignment with what you demand.—Kww(talk) 14:02, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not personal opinion, it's called having common sense, though I appreciate not all persons are blessed with this trait. Prove that Minaj has attained American citizenship, Kww, and then I will agree that articles should say Trinidadian-American. — ₳aron 13:46, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- In complete honesty, I realise that the MoS seems to be regarded as some kind of almighty bible on wikipedia, but like the bible there really seems to be some points that make no sense at all. I fail to see why where someone became famous should be any key to what their nationality is. Is this rule just for musicians? What would happen if an ordinary english person moved to another country and committed a high profile crime in America for the sake of argument, would they then be American? The MoS needs changing if this is the case. Azealia911 (talk) 13:42, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your point is that you are free to contradict our MoS at whim, based on your personal opinion? That's not a very strong debating point.—Kww(talk) 13:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Well, Kww, there's my point. Proving that she rose to fame in the US is already obvious, and has nothing to do with her being considered an American. Achieving fame in America does not make you American. Leona Lewis achieved fame in the US, does that make her American, too? And Adele? And One Direction? Jessie J is English, but only got signed in the US, does that make her American, too? To put it simply, you can't base someones nationality and citizenship on where they rose to fame or the amount of success they had. It's ludicrous And Minaj achieved famed relatively late, too. — ₳aron 09:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I think both sides have stated their case fairly well. At this point, the discussion is circling back around to making the same arguments in different ways. The next step is to ask other editors to weigh in so we can get a consensus. Before asking, however, we need to summarize the discussion and bring the sources in question to the forefront. ₳aron, please list the sources you'd like considered that refer to Nicki Minaj as "Trinidadian" or "Trinidadian-American". --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:09, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- I see that numerous people in this discussion have linked to WP:BLPLEAD. Have you read it yet?—Kww(talk) 18:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Where does it say that where someone rose to fame qualifies this change? Because if that's a real MoS thing, it needs changing, or at least tweaking. Iggy Azalea isn't American, Rihanna isn't American, Charli XCX isn't American, yet they all rose to fame in America, so they're American? Azealia911 (talk) 18:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- No, but I can source that she rose to fame in the US, which is all that is required to list her as "American" in the lead. The kind of edit-war you have staged in this article is part of the reason that our MoS uses that as a rule and discourages inclusion of ethnicity.—Kww(talk) 17:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Can you source that she has American citizenship and an American passport? — ₳aron 17:22, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Your bets notwithstanding, do you have any reliable sources that indicate that she "has a house in Trinidad, and still retains a Trinidadian passport"? Or is "Trinidadian" a mere ethnicity, information we routinely remove from all leads?—Kww(talk) 16:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
₳aron or Azealia911, would one of you be so kind as to provide a brief list of the sources that refer to Nicki Minaj as "Trinidadian" or "Trinidadian-American", preferably secondary or tertiary sources? I'll gather a list that calls her "American" or "Trinidadian-born American". Then we'll formally ask other editors to weigh in with Support, Oppose, or Remove options based on these sources and the MOS guideline. Thanks in advance. --GoneIn60 (talk) 07:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Occupation
Just a little sidenote, can we establish what Minaj actually is in terms of an occupation? I ask due to my findings of Minaj being credited as a "rapper" / "singer" / "singer-songwriter" / and "recording artist" in the intros to many of her song articles, without consistency, (Like [2], and [3]). My instinct would obviously be to stick with rapper throughout, regardless of the songs genre (EG. She should be credited as a rapper on songs like Starships, Only, and Fly without discrimination.) Just wanted to get others thoughts before I changed it and it was abbrasivly removed because I didn't discuss something as simple as her occupation on the talk page, which is what first got us into this mess. Azealia911 (talk) 08:54, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- I would agree with "rapper" as being the primary occupation. It's a type of singer, so I don't see a situation where it's necessary to say both "rapper" and "singer" in the opening line of the lead. As for songwriter, perhaps only in the Nicki Minaj article is it necessary to mention that. Sorry, I wasn't trying to create a huge mess above, and I realize you had good intentions. However, I believe that per Wikipedia guidelines, it's necessary to get this straightened out once and for all. Would appreciate it if you could weigh in with your thoughts as well on the subject concerning her nationality. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 11:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- She is a Trinidadian national with American citizenship. Minaj undoubtedly has two passports. And her occupation is primarily rapper and songwriter. — ₳aron 11:58, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- @GoneIn60, no need to apologize! It's easy to see we just had a disagreement, neither side was maliciously editing. Great, I'll cleanup/change the majority of her primary articles and refer to her as a rapper (I'm also assuing songwriter comes under rapper, no?) Thanks for clarifying, Azealia911 (talk) 13:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Calvin999: - what's the basis for saying she's a US citizen? I'm trying to sort through this discussion, and it isn't clear to me what the basis is for that statement. Guettarda (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Guettarda, I'm not sure anyone has a source that actually states she's a U.S. citizen, but it's a moot point (see comments above). This is a subsection of what's going on above, and only deals with her occupation. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Since he made the statement here, I asked here. Just trying to sift all the information before I comment. Guettarda (talk) 20:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not a moot point. You can't be an American citizenship without an American passport indicating that you have American citizenship. — ₳aron 23:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- We don't need to keep repeating ourselves, and certainly not in another section. I said justifying citizenship was a moot point in light of the information already provided in reliable sources, which support the claim that she's American. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- But sources, and Minaj herself, identify her as Trinidadian, too. — ₳aron 09:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Not an American citizen = not an American. End of. Bizarrely, on Wikipedia it seems anyone who lives in America and makes their career their = must be American, even when they never acquired citizenship. Like Yoko Ono. But God help them if they do acquire citizenship and become Americans as a result, because an army of nationalists from their country of origin will be marching to come and suppress this fact. My Cousin has lived in the US full-time come 15 years this September, from the time he was 21 years of age. He made his career their after going to two American universities for his MA and PhD. If he was to loose his job tomorrow, he would have to leave the country pretty quickly because of his Visa restrictions. I find it laughable how anyone could describe him as an "American" owing to this fact! --81.141.186.186 (talk) 23:35, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- But sources, and Minaj herself, identify her as Trinidadian, too. — ₳aron 09:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- We don't need to keep repeating ourselves, and certainly not in another section. I said justifying citizenship was a moot point in light of the information already provided in reliable sources, which support the claim that she's American. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not a moot point. You can't be an American citizenship without an American passport indicating that you have American citizenship. — ₳aron 23:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Since he made the statement here, I asked here. Just trying to sift all the information before I comment. Guettarda (talk) 20:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Guettarda, I'm not sure anyone has a source that actually states she's a U.S. citizen, but it's a moot point (see comments above). This is a subsection of what's going on above, and only deals with her occupation. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- She is a Trinidadian national with American citizenship. Minaj undoubtedly has two passports. And her occupation is primarily rapper and songwriter. — ₳aron 11:58, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2015
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Beyonce is also an associated act. 50.243.197.113 (talk) 14:23, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 14:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Also, associated acts are defined as somebody the subject has an ongoing professional relationship with. It's not for each artist that the subject has ever collaborated with. —C.Fred (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2015
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Please change "Nicki Minaj is a Trinidadian-born American rapper" to "Nicki Minaj is a Trinidadian rapper" because Nicki Minaj is not an American. She was born in Trinidadian & later moved to Southside Jamaica, Queens, New York at the age of 5. This makes her nationality only Trinidadian. She has also said this in numerous interviews. She also stated that it gives her more depth to say that she is a Trinidadian & not an American. OTM 226 (talk) 13:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: See the above discussion titled "EDIT REQUEST: Nicki Minaj does not consider herself "American"" Cannolis (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
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LilDennie Wikipedia (talk) 16:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC) I Wan't To Be Able To Edit This Page.
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Can you please mention somewhere about Nicki Minaj receiving a wax figure for her anaconda video, becoming the first female rapper throughout the 180 years of Madame Tussauds to receive a figure. XOfam (talk) 16:15, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Inomyabcs (talk) 18:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Here are two of my sources, Madame Tussauds Vegas official website, and an article from Billboards official website. They state everything i requested to be added.
https://www.madametussauds.com/lasvegas/newsandevents/nickiminaj.aspx http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6655687/nicki-minaj-wax-figure-madame-tussauds-las-vegas — Preceding unsigned comment added by XOfam (talk • contribs) 18:54, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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Can you please mention somewhere about Nicki Minaj receiving a wax figure for her anaconda video, becoming the first female rapper throughout the 180 years of Madame Tussauds to receive a figure. Here are two of my sources, Madame Tussauds Vegas official website, and an article from Billboards official website. They state everything i requested to be added.
https://www.madametussauds.com/lasvegas/newsandevents/nickiminaj.aspx http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6655687/nicki-minaj-wax-figure-madame-tussauds-las-vegas 69.119.120.169 (talk) 18:38, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 04:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Image
Change the 2013 picture is old update it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fresanchez (talk • contribs) 07:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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NICKI MINAJ IS A PERFORMER CREATED BY MAYBACH MUSIC CORPORATION, A SUBSIDIARY PUBLISHER OF ROC NATION, INC. YOUNG MONEY IS THE CONTINUATION OF A VANGUARD CAMPAIGN KNOWN AS CASH MONEY RECORDS. ANY SUCH FURTHER REFERENCES TO UNIVERSAL MUSIC CAREERS, AND YOUNG MONEY SHOULD BE ADAPTED AND AMENDED TO REFLECT MAYBACH MUSIC (CORPORATION). THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY QUA'LOU & ASSOCIATES CONSULTING FIRM. QUA'LOU & ASSOCIATES CONSULTING FIRM (talk) 20:13, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Please actually make a request as to what you would like changed in the article. Use the form of Change x to y. Also include reliable sources that support your change. -- GB fan 20:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Minaj is a Christian
Under "Personal Life," the second paragraph begins: "Minaj is a Christian...." I believe that it would be more accurate to state, "Minaj identifies as a Christian...." 24.4.198.238 (talk) 03:29, 12 December 2015 (UTC) Robert W. Evans
New Pic
Change the old thumbnail 2013 picture to a new one. e.g This picture of her on the red carpet of the MTV Music Video Awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matas2k15 (talk • contribs) 23:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Matas2k15: What evidence do we have that the MTV VMA picture is under a free license, since it's been used in a commercial website?[4] —C.Fred (talk) 23:45, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2016
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Jurmiateaches (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC) Nicki Minaj did a song with actress,singer,and rapper Jurmia Garth it was a song called "wanna be me". Jurmia was then described as best artist she has ever worked with her exact words were "Jurmia is pretty talented and amazing to work with". Jurmia then did an interview saying she always looked up to Nicki and loved working with her.
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
In addition, this article is about Nicki Minaj, not Jurmia or what they supposedly think of each other.
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Infobox
@Annvarie : you can't remove my modifications because you just want to do that. 1. There's no a rule saying that the image must be the recent one. 2- the content I added is 100% correct check here. 3- Many articles about singers use Infobox Person instead of Infobox musical artist, because it's more complete. I just added useful content, so please don't remove it again without reasons. Cordially -- issimo 15 !? 22:51, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Issimo 15, this isn't about correctness--it's about bloating the infobox with unnecessary trivia. Just having parameters doesn't mean we have to use them. At any rate, this is a GA, and edits should be conservative. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:55, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- you can remove the unnecessary parameters but not all the infobox, no ? it's not fair, i searched informations and tried to make the infobox better, but finally i found all my work disappeared -- issimo 15 !? 23:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Those who came before you and brought this up to GA status might say the same about your edits. You resorted to edit warring. I will revert and warn you. Please don't continue; you clearly don't have consent. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- you can remove the unnecessary parameters but not all the infobox, no ? it's not fair, i searched informations and tried to make the infobox better, but finally i found all my work disappeared -- issimo 15 !? 23:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016
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I would like to change nicki Minaj's Main picture to this picture-
Qbradsh (talk) 05:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: The image was deleted as a copyright violation. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Pink Friday Records
Hello, I suggest to add a short paragraph about "Pink Friday Records", Nicki Minaj's own label. Could someone do that? Thank you. — Sincerely Issimo 15 20:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, not a notable vanity label. Karst (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Introduction: Third Paragraph
In the third paragraph "Her rapping is distinctive for its fast flow and the use of alter egos and accents, primarily British cockney. Early in her career, Minaj was known for her colorful costumes and wigs" isn't cited. Although I don't doubt the information is true I think a source to back it up would be helpful.
Also it would be good to find updated statistics for the last two sentences. They are from an article made in 2013. I have been trying to find them myself but I can't seem to locate them anywhere. Some help with that would be much appreciated.
The last thing is her awards/nominations stated in this paragraph aren't cited either, which leads me to think they could be inaccurate. I would like to do some more research to hopefully fix this as well.
Bonannot (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- I found this link while doing research http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/nicki-minaj-6052.php that supports the first statement above and so i added it as a citation. Unfortunately I still can't find updated statistics! Does anyone know where they can find it? I found some new sources for the information on awards/nominations as well! Here they are: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3747326/awards, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ama-american-music-awards-katy-perry-bieber-264237, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/american-music-awards-2012-complete-391940,
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/amas-winners-2015-complete-results-842861. Can someone add these? I can't remember how. Bonannot (talk) 02:38, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2016
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Mini.wraith (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I want to change the birthday for her it is wrong I think so I would like to edit
- ^ Frank, Alex. "Newly Single Nicki Minaj on Feminism, Meek Mill, and Rapping at 50". Vogue.com. Condé Nast. Retrieved 8 April 2015.
- Not done: Minaj's birthdate is sourced from a reliable source and should not be removed. Shearonink (talk) 19:56, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2016
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Can Nicki Minaj's picture be changed to a more recent one? For example this one: http://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Nicki-Minaj-2016-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-Red-Carpet-Fashion-Bao-TRanchi-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-4.jpg
46.193.0.204 (talk) 14:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not done for now: This is the thing...The image you linked to is under copyright from that website (© Copyright 2006 - 2016 Tomandlorenzo) as well as the photographers ("Photo Credit: Larry Busacca/Getty Images, Jamie McCarthy/Getty Images, Courtesy of Bao Tranchi"). Wikipedia can only use images that are in the public domain or that carry an appropriate license such as Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike. Help:Introduction to images with Wiki Markup/1 has complete explanations and instructions. Shearonink (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2016
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Change the picture of Nicki in 2012 to File:Nicki Grammy 2015.jpg Nicki Minaj at Grammy 2015. She deserve to have a updated picture so people know how she look not with the wigs.
Devinciobrown (talk) 17:39, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: @Devinciobrown: The license on that image does not appear to be valid; it will probably be speedy deleted soon. —C.Fred (talk) 17:54, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2016
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Did Nikki Minaj steal a dead body and like two million dollar 2601:646:8280:61E5:D04F:BD8:1FC8:EC4B (talk) 01:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2016
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194.154.22.82 (talk) 14:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2017
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Add Nicki Minaj's signature to her article: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nicki_Minaj%27s_signature.svg 91.234.35.216 (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Note: I tried to put in the image in the infobox, but Template:Infobox musical artist doesn't have parameter "signature" to add the signature (as per the message showed in the preview). regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 12:52, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Feuds
There seems to be a bit of a dispute regarding the "Feuds" section. Over the number of years the section has been brought back then reverted due to false allegations of "controversial matters being integrated within the main article of Nicki Minaj". The questions that continue to be brought up regarding the section's lack of presence center on the disputable notion that other artists like Drake, 50 Cent and Rick Ross have their feuds section available, yet the artist under review (Nicki Minaj) is "specially exempted" from such documentation even if referenced sources are reliable and neutral. Those of a neutral nature may wish to weigh in on why "feuds" has no place, despite the removal of gossip and staple of adequately-sourced references. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 20:18, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- After going back to the discussion about the "Feud" section in the talk page archives I've realized that you were one of the users who participated in that discussion and it was mentioned the reasons why this section should be removed (it violates multiple rules). Based on that discussion, this section violates WP:BALASPS "[an article] should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to the weight of that aspect in the body of reliable sources on the subject", WP:STRUCTURE's guideline to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other and WP:UNDUE's requirement for coverage that reflects prevalence in reliable sources. Also, this is a duplicate of information that is already mentioned in the main body. Her fueds with Mariah, Kim, Flex, etc. are already mentioned there so this is excessive. Just include any other further feuds in the main body like the rest of them. Making comparisons to another artist's page seems pointless, especially considering the significant difference in the situation (and content) and explained above. Annvarie (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Correct, I see the inference of Kim and Mariah being featured throughout the page and it is quite understandable why their incorporation within the "feuds" page should be omitted. However, for the sake of neutrality and complimenting one of the main guidelines: there is still an ongoing dispute between the parties of Remy Ma and Minaj, alongside Kim and Minaj. All other trivial nonsense regarding the Cher mention and indie female rappers have been removed.ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- So add it to the main body instead of creating a whole entire section with the same content. Annvarie (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I've reviewed the entire page and it appears that although the same content regarding Mariah Carey and Flex have been reiterated, a separate section is still in order in reference to the ongoing disputes among the parties of Kim, Remy and Minaj. This supports the guidelines as addressed per other wiki pages like 50 Cent, Rick Ross, Ja Rule, Drake whose respective ongoing controversies are recorded under their feuds listing. All other trivial information has now been removed, while remaining verified matters have been integrated within main article page per guideline request. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: I have reviewed your recent edit and noticed the reiteration of Rece Steele was strangely made. Also remaining edit matter does not compliment what was discussed earlier. In accordance to the "WP guideline" that enforces feuds to be made separate if feud is ongoing, it should be fairly considered that the parties among Remy, Kim and Minaj be made within a separate section. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:10, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I've reviewed the entire page and it appears that although the same content regarding Mariah Carey and Flex have been reiterated, a separate section is still in order in reference to the ongoing disputes among the parties of Kim, Remy and Minaj. This supports the guidelines as addressed per other wiki pages like 50 Cent, Rick Ross, Ja Rule, Drake whose respective ongoing controversies are recorded under their feuds listing. All other trivial information has now been removed, while remaining verified matters have been integrated within main article page per guideline request. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- So add it to the main body instead of creating a whole entire section with the same content. Annvarie (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Correct, I see the inference of Kim and Mariah being featured throughout the page and it is quite understandable why their incorporation within the "feuds" page should be omitted. However, for the sake of neutrality and complimenting one of the main guidelines: there is still an ongoing dispute between the parties of Remy Ma and Minaj, alongside Kim and Minaj. All other trivial nonsense regarding the Cher mention and indie female rappers have been removed.ChocoLantern88 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- After going back to the discussion about the "Feud" section in the talk page archives I've realized that you were one of the users who participated in that discussion and it was mentioned the reasons why this section should be removed (it violates multiple rules). Based on that discussion, this section violates WP:BALASPS "[an article] should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to the weight of that aspect in the body of reliable sources on the subject", WP:STRUCTURE's guideline to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other and WP:UNDUE's requirement for coverage that reflects prevalence in reliable sources. Also, this is a duplicate of information that is already mentioned in the main body. Her fueds with Mariah, Kim, Flex, etc. are already mentioned there so this is excessive. Just include any other further feuds in the main body like the rest of them. Making comparisons to another artist's page seems pointless, especially considering the significant difference in the situation (and content) and explained above. Annvarie (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
In what way is the feud between Kim and Minaj ongoing? It's been years since they addressed that beef? Annvarie (talk) 22:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Same applies to the long heated history between other rappers like Ja Rule and 50 Cent yet their expansive history among one another, especially breakdowns of their dispute is made public in a separate section on both their wiki pages. I am not understanding thoroughly what makes Minaj the immediate exception with her dispute with Kim? If a reconciliation has indeed been reached between the pair, then it would be neutral and ethical to insert the nod with a reliable documented source. The other case that is currently being reported with an expansive array of legitimate media outlets is the ongoing dispute between Minaj and Remy Ma. Their dispute as news sources record is in fact still ongoing and a current topic, and references of its coverage have already been integrated. Both scenarios compliment well within the "WP guideline" that was addressed earlier in our discussion, and any other trivial nonsense such as the indie female rappers and "Vinny" allegation has been removed for sake of neutrality and non-one-sided reporting. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I understand the Remy thing but the Kim one makes no sense. Where exactly did you see that rule? Or are you just making stuff up? And why are you adding rumors to the article that were already debunked.Annvarie (talk) 22:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Again no need to jump to conclusions. Rumored reports have been subtracted and the placement of verified, reliable sources have been intact. There is only recount to what was discussed in reference to the WP guidelines (BALASPS, STRUCTURE) which were noted earlier in our discussion. In reference to the Kim dispute, it is clear that the pair have had a series of conflicts that was uncovered in reliable sources, which spans for several years. Though it remains uncertain what the immediate nature of their relationship stands now, it would be indisputable in leaving their feud out of Minaj's wiki page especially if it were to be expanded in a separate section given the nature of the many conflicts the two endured. Again reaffirming the neutral stance, their history and the guidelines supporting their feature on Wikipedia is evident in other pages like Rick Ross, DMX, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Drake, whom have respectively have had their share of conflicts as well and have their feuds made public on their wiki pages in separate sections. I am still not understanding thoroughly from your perspective why Minaj is an exception to this; it clearly defies neutrality status on the coverage of "feuds", especially if it's ongoing AND/OR expansive. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Fair call on the recent edits that have been made towards subsections of the feuds breakdown. After careful consideration it is best to opt out the Kendrick mention since it fell under the pattern of the trivial nonsense as the indie female rappers and Vinny reference. The feuds section is now under fair neutral standing, may it be noted to any contributor that in future time to refrain from adding any form of gossip or rumored content that could misrepresent the fair circumstances of the feuds section. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 23:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Again no need to jump to conclusions. Rumored reports have been subtracted and the placement of verified, reliable sources have been intact. There is only recount to what was discussed in reference to the WP guidelines (BALASPS, STRUCTURE) which were noted earlier in our discussion. In reference to the Kim dispute, it is clear that the pair have had a series of conflicts that was uncovered in reliable sources, which spans for several years. Though it remains uncertain what the immediate nature of their relationship stands now, it would be indisputable in leaving their feud out of Minaj's wiki page especially if it were to be expanded in a separate section given the nature of the many conflicts the two endured. Again reaffirming the neutral stance, their history and the guidelines supporting their feature on Wikipedia is evident in other pages like Rick Ross, DMX, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Drake, whom have respectively have had their share of conflicts as well and have their feuds made public on their wiki pages in separate sections. I am still not understanding thoroughly from your perspective why Minaj is an exception to this; it clearly defies neutrality status on the coverage of "feuds", especially if it's ongoing AND/OR expansive. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I understand the Remy thing but the Kim one makes no sense. Where exactly did you see that rule? Or are you just making stuff up? And why are you adding rumors to the article that were already debunked.Annvarie (talk) 22:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Same applies to the long heated history between other rappers like Ja Rule and 50 Cent yet their expansive history among one another, especially breakdowns of their dispute is made public in a separate section on both their wiki pages. I am not understanding thoroughly what makes Minaj the immediate exception with her dispute with Kim? If a reconciliation has indeed been reached between the pair, then it would be neutral and ethical to insert the nod with a reliable documented source. The other case that is currently being reported with an expansive array of legitimate media outlets is the ongoing dispute between Minaj and Remy Ma. Their dispute as news sources record is in fact still ongoing and a current topic, and references of its coverage have already been integrated. Both scenarios compliment well within the "WP guideline" that was addressed earlier in our discussion, and any other trivial nonsense such as the indie female rappers and "Vinny" allegation has been removed for sake of neutrality and non-one-sided reporting. ChocoLantern88 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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please change the current profile picture to a more recent picture. the current picture is from 5 years ago. the picture below is from a recent video shoot https://static.wonderfulunion.net/groundctrl/clients/nickiminaj/media/00/15/ckeditor/pictures/data/content.4t61udbust0jds4nvgn0fxnzlrkfjme1k59z6k_vdq.jpg Kvnniv (talk) 09:22, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Not done Unless they are clearly licenced as free-use, we have to assume that all images are copyright. Therefore, we cannot use them without breach of copyright, which we will not do - Arjayay (talk) 13:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
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update profile picture to a more recent picture. Nicki Minaj on SNL in 2014: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rocor/15792392688/ Kvnniv (talk) 01:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: @Kvnniv: The picture must have a free license. The one you linked to is under the CC BY-NC 2.0 license; the non-commercial clause of that license means that it is not free per Wikipedia's standards. —C.Fred (talk) 02:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
nicki minaj
Nicki minaj was born in 1982 December 8 aNicki MinajSerenean (talk) 22:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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change the profile picture to a more recent one. Nicki Minaj in Turks and Caicos in 2016: Copyvio image removed Kvnniv (talk) 07:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- That image is lifted from her Instagram account. Copyright violation. Tagged with a speedy delete. Karst (talk) 07:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- I have removed the copyvio image pending its deletion - Arjayay (talk) 11:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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Please change "Nicki Minaj falsely accused rock musician Steven Tyler and American journalist Barbara Walters as racists" to "Nicki Minaj accused rock musician Steven Tyler and American journalist Barbara Walters as racists". Using "accused" already implies that there is no evidence to back up her claim, so the "falsely" seems biased. Whether or not her claim is valid is entirely subjective. R13n3 (talk) 06:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Done Good call. Conforms with WP:POV. Thanks IVORK Discuss 14:15, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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Update the current picture. Nicki Minaj at a Halloween party in 2015 https://www.flickr.com/photos/135504457@N06/22526677430
- Not done: Wikipedia articles cannot display externally hosted images. RivertorchFIREWATER 06:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- Further, I question whether "hotcelebwallpapers" really owns the image and has released it into the public domain. —C.Fred (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Where did onika actually grow IP in ? Roykuchy (talk) 18:42, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Copyvio?
Hi, can someone check whether this file (already used on fr:wp and en:wp) is really an 'own work' of the uploader or a copyvio. Thank you — Sincerely カビル 21:43, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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"change Devincio (talk) 19:20, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:03, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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Add "model" as occupation. Reference: [1] Gimleey2 (talk) 19:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Nicki Minaj Just Signed a Major Modeling Contract". Vogue. Retrieved 29 March 2017.
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please change ((Drake)) to ((Drake (musician)|Drake)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4304:E6B0:218:8BFF:FE74:FE4F (talk • contribs)
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Awesoemnes (talk) 12:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a change.
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She has also collaborated with David Guetta and Ariana Grande. Abomination2468 (talk) 21:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
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first sentence. She's "a" Trinidadian, not "an". Why can't i edit this it's bs 220.237.94.100 (talk) 09:23, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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change her name00:01, 4 December 2017 (UTC)Quesha20 (talk)
- Change to what, and per what published source? —C.Fred (talk) 00:04, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
adult models
What kind of work Nicki was doing to be in this Category ? --Mojackjutaily (talk) 19:40, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
- None. It should be removed.Karst (talk) 14:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
What happened for Nicki to be on this position Chikondi jamson (talk) 12:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
She's not American?
I don't know if this' been discussed before, but in this interview with Vogue she specifically says "I’m not American, I’m Trini." Her intro should be "...Trinidadian rapper..." Cornerstonepicker (talk) 08:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
- Pinging @Jennica: @AlexWikiIDK: for opinions. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:30, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'm seeing sources that say she has dual citizenship. 1, ". Minaj moved from Trinidad and Tobago to Queens when she was five, but we can't find out what her immigration status was at the time." 2. --Jennica✿ / talk 20:02, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- "can also claim dual citizenship" I feel like is a compliment by XXL Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
- Pinging @Cornerstonepicker: I'm sorry, but I am confused, why are we talking about Nicki and if I ever said anything about Nicki Minaj, I have Possibly put American, if not then I made a mistake but i believe it is not your job to correct me and @@Jennica:. And I also believe that I have put American Whenever I put something with Nicki. If I ever edited something and says my name on it, that means I edited a Specific part of the Page and not the Trinidadian-American Rapper part. Whatever you are talking about (lol) but my work is done. - AlexWikiIDK
- @AlexWikiIDK: I @ you for an opinion on a change of terms, is not an accusation.. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:28, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
@Cornerstonepicker: Well, I'm not really a person to talk opinions, on here, but maybe leave it American, She is from North America, And Trinidad and Tobago is in North America. - AlexWikiIDK @AlexWikiIDK and Cornerstonepicker: Isn't Trinidadian Born American rapper misleading? While Trinidad is part of North America I think it's a stretch as Drake for example wouldn't be identified as a Canadian Born, American rapper. Maybe It should be Trinidadian-American rapper to fully denote her dual citizenship? - Thoughts?
- Origin in the lede should reflect where the artist resided when she became notable. So in the case of Angus Young for instance, this is Australia and not Scotland, where he was born. The same applies here. Only in a case where we are certain that the artist is notable in both countries, like say Santana, you say American and Mexican. What needs to be avoided at all cost is to give some semblance of ethnicity. This opens a whole different set of worms. Karst (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
But she isn't American. She may be an American citizen, but ethnically and personally she is and identifies as Trinidadian, that is where she was born and grew up. It's really misleading to say American. — Calvin999 08:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- As per WP:MOSBIO we do not put ethnicity in the lede. Karst (talk) 05:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- There is no need to describe her in the opening sentence as either Trinidadian or American. Her background and nationality is discussed in the second sentence, which is perfectly adequate. It may be unorthodox, but then so is her upbringing and background. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- If she describes herself as Trinidadian, we shouldn't avoid it just because some Wikipedians disagree. We can't let our own opinions override - or even minimise - sourced content. Guettarda (talk) 12:57, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
No comment on this one don't know anything😯 Chikondi jamson (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
No comment on this one don't know anything😯 Chikondi jamson (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Sears Holdings?
Why is the Sears Holdings portal linked underneath this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6c5e:127f:f762:6dbd:8205:63bd:d797 (talk) 00:02, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
- I have removed it. I do not see any reason for it to be on the article. ~ GB fan 11:42, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
Me either Chikondi jamson (talk) 12:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
wearing real fur controversy
Can this issue be included in her controversies section? https://www.facebook.com/rob.banks.56/posts/1863861900301165
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Please remove the following categories:
- Per WP:EGRS and WP:CATV there is no source for them, and they are not corroborated in the article. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 01:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 01:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Per WP:EGRS and WP:CATV there is no source for them, and they are not corroborated in the article. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 01:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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New album date
Can someone please, modify change the date release of the Queen album? 17th of August Daniitudor (talk) 01:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
NickiMinaj Identity Theft,
Birthdate was corrected
Talk:Nicki Minaj/Archive 1 - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicki_Minaj/Archive_1 Edit request from 75.177.71.231, 10 August 2010 nicki minaj birthday is december 8,1984 can you put that so people who come on will no her birthdate you had it before and i dont understand why you removed it but can you put it back btw she is 25
I believe the month and day is going to be changed as well, an two year differenace, is really big, when it comes to somebody identity, for public use, and somebody walking around with no face.
Source:https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nicki%20Minaj
Nicki Minaj
Onika Maraj (Born December 8, 1984) known as Nicki Minaj is a female rapper from Southside Jamaica, Queens, NewYork. She grew up in a troubled home, with a father on drugs and a struggling single mother.
Onkia Tanya Maraj Pictures are not believable, Source:https://plasticsurgeryfact.com/did-nicki-minaj-have-plastic-surgery/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavettalewis (talk • contribs) 15:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Add Cardi B to the "Controversies" section?
Hi guys! I'm curious. Before adding it, I wanted to ask around. Do you think that Minaj's recent, and widely publicized, feud with rapper Cardi B should be added to the "Controversies" section? EDIT: I did a quick Google search. Their feud has been documented extensively by large publications like Billboard, People Magazine, Cosmopolitan, Refinery29, etc. Minaj even launched a merchandise line based on the fight. Their altercation at this year's Fashion Week was also widely reported internationally, by big outlets like CNN and BBC
There are several other, much smaller, and less publicized, feuds and disagreements included in this section of her page already, so I think this one with Cardi B warrants at least a couple of sentences. Kim Leung (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- Certainly seems to be worth of inclusion. Karst (talk) 15:40, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Update pictur
the pic should be updated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayolizard (talk • contribs) 22:42, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Associated Acts
I think it is very important to add among her Associated acts the most significant and influential artists such as Marshall Mathers aka Eminem, Beyonce Knowles, Ludacris, B.o.b., Lil Wayne & Birdman. Individuals such as those mentioned as well as Kanye West and 2 Chainz should be noted before mentioning Takashi 6One9. Dwr6289 (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Dwr6289: She worked with 6ix9ine on multiple occasions. Can the same be said about all the artists you listed? —C.Fred (talk) 17:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Could you please remove the note "At least one standard reference source gives her birth year as 1984" and the reference that follows? Allmusic no longer lists her birth year as 1984 and now has it as 1982, like other sources. You can verify it yourself in the article and the right-hand column of the link. Thanks. 83.248.187.222 (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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As of 2019, Nicki Minaj could be the first African American artist to have a solo Diamond single with her smash hit Super Bass. Kenyonroberts2 (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Not only would we need a source to say the single went Diamond, but we'd also need one to say that no other African-American solo artist did it before her. —C.Fred (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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Could you please remove the note "At least one standard reference source gives her birth year as 1984" and the reference that follows? Allmusic no longer lists her birth year as 1984 and now has it as 1982, like other sources. You can verify it yourself in the article and the right-hand column of the link. Thanks. 83.248.187.222 (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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As of 2019, Nicki Minaj could be the first African American artist to have a solo Diamond single with her smash hit Super Bass. Kenyonroberts2 (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Not only would we need a source to say the single went Diamond, but we'd also need one to say that no other African-American solo artist did it before her. —C.Fred (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Nationality Isn't American Per Se
This change happened to the article about three or four times in 2014. However it got reverted back sometime in late 2015/early 2016.
Also, she isn't an American per se since she originated from Trinidad and Tobago which her DOB should be written in the DMY format. Same goes for her Fly collaborator and Raining Men artiste who came from Barbados. Response if needed.
Sayonara,
67.81.163.178 (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Nationality is determined by citizenship, not place of birth. Furthermore, see WP:ethnicity on regulations on the lead. Specifically, place of birth, previous nationalities, and/or ethnicity are NOT to be included in the lead. Her notability occurred as an American citizen in America, making the appropriate lead description "American". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer (talk • contribs) 18:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Didn't you already explain in your edit summary about this? It should be simply changed into "Nope. See WP:ETHNICITY. Previous nationalities can't be included in the lead unless s/he gained significant notability there thus making the opening sentence description American. Nothing has changed." Please take this little note Apoorva Iyer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.163.178 (talk) 14:36, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Photo
Ok, so Nicki's eye roll is not appealing for a lead, instead get a photo of her being more professional and more appealing... should be her performing with a mic and her face should be focused — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRealCanadian71 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- I realise I am closing the stable door not just after the horse has bolted, but has run down the road, appeared on the local news for wandering onto the hard shoulder of the M25 motorway, recaptured and put in a field elsewhere ... but I for one think the image TheRealCanadian71 switched to is better. It shows Minaj doing what she's notable for, while the other picture looks, well, unfortunate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Ritchie333: I honestly think File:Nicki Minaj MTV VMAs 4.jpg is better just because it's more "readable". She takes up more of the frame, it focuses on her face and torso, it's less "noisy". I am not opposed to File:Nicki Minaj MTV VMAs.jpg, I just think the other image is aesthetically better. EvergreenFir (talk) 14:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Citizenship redux
I hate to bring this issue up again, but what evidence is there that that she is a US citizen? I found myself wondering, and while I can find her saying she entered the US an an "illegal immigrant",[5] and that (in 2012) she wasn't registered to vote and "Minaj may not even be a US citizen"[6] I can't find anything that says she is a US citizen at all. And while the message conveyed by the hashtag is ambiguous, #TaxPayerButIcantVote implies that she isn't a US citizen. (Of course, it may just be a statement of solidarity with "resident aliens".)
We know she's a TT citizen by birth. Saying that she isn't one still, or that she is an American, seems like a violation of SYNTH. Guettarda (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've reverted another addition of this claim. We can't add unsourced information to a BLP that has actually been questioned by sources. Guettarda (talk) 00:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Almostangelic123 and Michael14375: Given my previous post, I don't think we can say anything about her nationality beyond "Trinidad and Tobago-born". Since this is a BLP, we're under an obligation to get it right, or if we can't get it right, document what we can. Guettarda (talk) 03:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Fan4Life:, I'm going to undo this edit of yours, per this section. Guettarda (talk) 17:22, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- It's a BLP, we need to get this right. Guettarda (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Updating infobox image
I noticed this image of Nicki is being used a lot to identify how Nicki Minaj looks, and while this is a high-quality photo, this is a picture from almost 9 years ago and does not show how she looks in recent time. I suggest using this photo of Nicki at Billboard Music Awards in 2018 instead, and maybe using a cropped version to better fit the infobox. If there are other HD images within a 2 year timespan which can also be a good contender instead of Nicki in 2010, I encourage linking it to this discussion. MunRis • †alk 03:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- I agree it would be nice to have an updated image but the copyright status of the Billboard photo is NOT on a CC-BY-SA license, it is owned by Invision/Associated Press. Take a look at http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/People-Nicki-Minaj/3aa1ab536d834ec880bd791cbf95b38b/7/0 which states: This content is intended for editorial use only. For other uses, additional clearances may be required. Shearonink (talk) 14:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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She has retired 2A00:23C0:20A:BA00:F8CD:F430:A611:411C (talk) 13:03, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: See above — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Minaj is a Christian
This link https://www.christiantoday.com/article/nicki-minaj-has-song-that-made-it-to-christian-itunes-chart-what-is-it/123205.htm says that Minaj is a Christian. The Christian Post is considered a reliable source. May I please add a sentence about Minaj being a Christian?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 20:08, 27 July 2019 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
- The link claims she "profess[ed] her faith" when "she teamed up with gospel artist Tasha Cobbs in the single, "I'm Getting Ready."" I'm not sure what The Christian Post is "considered a reliable source" for, but Wikipedia WP:BLPs require stronger evidence than that. zzz (talk) 20:29, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
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Nicki Minaj is an American Rapper 2601:18F:601:7736:409C:9DAA:9084:5134 (talk) 05:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 10:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj announced her retirement on Twitter today.
Can anybody here please change Nicki Minaj's years active to "2004–2019"? https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/1169676721865412608 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.37.196 (talk) 20:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done She’s still active in that she has another album slated to be released. 2019 isn’t even over yet. Trillfendi (talk) 20:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think it is best to wait and see if she really retires or not before making that edit. Aoba47 (talk) 01:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- We don't use our own judgement to determined if she "really retires". So long as she announces retirement and music is no longer being recorded, active years should be marked as "2004–2019". There's no hesitation to change this afterwards. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 01:58, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Nice4What: Understandable. I would not be opposed to the years active range being changed because if anything does change in the future, then it could easily be switched. Thank you for the comment. Aoba47 (talk) 21:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- We don't use our own judgement to determined if she "really retires". So long as she announces retirement and music is no longer being recorded, active years should be marked as "2004–2019". There's no hesitation to change this afterwards. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 01:58, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Given the persistent changing of the text with nothing more than a Tweet, should the page be protected? —C.Fred (talk) 01:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- @C.Fred: The page is already protected but increased protection may be required at this point. Trillfendi (talk) 21:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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she retired. furthermore the years active should be to 2019 Lequiltas (talk) 14:49, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Note that her tweet alone is not enough. We need a clear indication of when she is ceasing to be active entirely—and on what will happen with the album that is currently pending release. —C.Fred (talk) 15:40, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Her personal life.
I'd like to say that several messages on my pages were left threatening to block me from editing. I'd like to say at first that it's not fair in any way to threaten people like this. Secondly I'd like to say that I deleted the part where she claimed to be bisexual as I felt like this information didn't deserve its place in the personal life section but in the controversy section. Her lying about her sexuality has little to do with her personal life.
With these types of threats, it actually frighten new editors like me from editing. Do not act surprised if everyone stops joining Wikipedia to edit at this point.
user: FlightTime @FlightTime: Iambacknimbetter (talk) 00:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I understand you Bro, these threats are scary, I'm facing the same situation Actually Batman (talk) 05:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
@Actually Batman: don't let yourself intimidate you, all you did was try to make Wikipedia a better place. These editors/contributors have no rights to tell you not to edit and call you a vandal only because THEY estimate that you are wrong.
If you need any help just know that I'm here
(And please sign your posts with : "~ ~ ~" ") Iambacknimbetter (talk) Iambacknimbetter
- When people disrupt the article they will be threatened with blocking. That’s just the policy. Trillfendi (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Her retirement is false.
Knowing Nicki after being a fan for years and dedicating my ears to her music for years of not decades, I'm able to decipher whether she's joking or not, and knowing Nicki, she's trolling
To support my theory, I suggest you guys to read this TMZ article that stipulate that even her closest manager / entourage says that she has studio time booked until next month and has plenty of songs to record with multiple artists :
With that being said it confirms that Nicki is simply NOT retiring.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
Iambacknimbetter (talk) Me 🥂🥂 —Preceding undated comment added 13:31, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- TMZ is known to be a subpar source that shouldn't be used as a basis for claims, especially personal/contentious ones. It's especially suspicious when that article only goes off of unnamed "sources" for claims. Not giving any names for them looks like they're trying to hide something. In any case, we would need a far better source than TMZ to determine whether her retirement tweet is for real. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 06:25, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
@SNUGGUMS: you are kind of right and wrong. TMZ is pretty known for breaking news easily and having insiders and everything.
In any way, she actually deleted the tweet about her retirement and apologized calling it "abrupt" and "insensitive" she has also liked tweets about how she's not retiring... To be continued, I guess.
- "Breaking news easily"..... as in they report things before others do? That doesn't necessarily mean they're right. In fact, I've often seen exaggerated (if not outright false) claims within their pieces. As for these "insiders" you mention, not giving any names for them within reports is also suspicious and comes off as trying to hide something. It's not a publication one should take at face value for anything contentious and/or not found in any other source. The less often articles use it, the better. Anyway, deleting the retirement tweet and liking others' tweets about not retiring does add credibility to the idea she's still active. No objections to removing any claims of retiring. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
@SNUGGUMS: If that doesn't mean she's not retiring, what does that mean? Make it make sense. I 👏 don't 👏wanna 👏hear 👏it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iambacknimbetter (talk • contribs) 12:25, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
2018 era is a mess.
Can I get the blessing to edit the 2018 history section of this article? It's written poorly, much longer than the history on her earlier career eras, and contains facts that are was too specific for a general history. I'd also like to fine-tune 2014-2017. We need pictures for these two periods of time as well. I'd like to incorporate more of her impact during these years too. I.e. fight for streaming rights, first black woman to launch a line with Fendi, etc.
user: Essie the Great @Essie the Great: Essie the Great (talk) 10:48, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes please go ahead. I love the Fendi and streaming rights part. Thulani Rams (talk) 16:24, 4 November 2019 (UTC)