Talk:Nightingale-Bamford School

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Peter Jennings and his former wife,Kati Marton,sent their daughter there.

Advert tag

Okay, someone removed the advert tag and cited nearly all missing citations to the school's website. The article does sound like an advertisement for the school, and thus does not fit Wikipedia's guidelines. It is replete with grandiose and praising adjectives. For example:

• "one of the top-ranked private schools in New York City"
• "is considered one of the finest girls' schools in the US"
• "known for its outstanding faculty and employs a number of immensely talented individuals"
• "Each and every member of the visual arts department is, too, deserving of recognition, and are constantly showing their works in galleries throughout the city and the whole of the United States."
• "As a nationally leading, competitive independent school, NBS's academic curriculum is designed to teach girls to take responsibility for their own work, and to face challenges and find ways to to surmount them"
• "Nightingale boasts an outstanding Classics department"
• "The girls receive superior results, qualifying them for college credit"
• "Nightingale boasts a highly competitive admissions process "

These kinds of statements are not fitting for Wikipedia. For that reason, the advert tag is warranted.65.28.9.8 02:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I've removed most of the promotional content now. Two years later... Netalarmtalk 02:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Sort it out

Someone with better Wikipedia and/or educational credentials than mine please strip this self-satisfied brochure-bullshit of its weasel-worded claims. No doubt it is a fine school but surely any searchable and thus cited achievements could speak for themselves Plutonium27 (talk) 16:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

In addition, I believe that several events nightingale has participated in are not mentioned, such as local exchange days with other boy schools —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whiteknight666 (talk • contribs) 02:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sort it out

Which part of this article is "brochure-bullshit"? Please define your terms or point out the specific "brochure-bullshit." A claim without specific support is nonsense- a general Wikipedia rule that applies to all. Wikicorrections (talk)

Please, don't modify or delete other peoples contributions in this talkpage, for instance like this. A list of "brochure-bullshit" is given in the section Advert tag above. Just one example: "Nightingale boasts an outstanding Classics department", as reference in this article only a link the to school's own homepage is given, that's not sufficient. --Cyfal (talk) 21:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Examples of "brochure-bullshit":

• "Ms. Nightingale's warmth and enthusiasm"
• "Ms. Bamford's rigor and intellectual ambition"
• "educated the mind and heart together"
• "known for its outstanding faculty "
• "employs a number of immensely talented individuals"
• "Each and every member of the visual arts department is, too, deserving of recognition, and are constantly showing their works in galleries throughout the city and the whole of the United States."

Please note that I am only listing outright examples of "brochure-bullshit" and leaving out implicit statements of superiority. The article also displays a notable lack of critical commentary; the only remotely negative sentence that I could find in the entire article was "Nightingale's highly competitive admissions process has gotten some media attention in the past few years." In light of these issues, I will add the advert tag to the page. I also think that the article is far too long for any secondary school, and that most of the information, particularly the listing of courses, clubs, and college placement (except maybe for the top 10, because it does show the success of the school) should be removed. Kleio08 (talk) 16:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

I added the tag for speedy deletion (and, if that is removed, i believe the advert and shorten tags should stand} mainly because this article requires an all-encompassing series of rewrites to make it even remotely encyclopedic. In this case, I believe it would be best to delete this page and someone with knowledge of this school write an entirely new article. The author (or body of authors) that constructed this travesty are more pompous and self-important than the authors of the Harvard article. There's something very wrong here, and it's not just the gratuitous flaunting of college admission statistics. --Randomtask (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've declined it. Deletion - especially speedy deletion is not cleanup. However, I'll leave the advertisement tag as there do seem to be tonal issues. I also removed the shorten tag, as this article is only 20k...which is only about a third of the general "long" threshold. --Smashville^BONK! 00:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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as of 4/1/2024 the page says Ms. Self graduated in 1990, her year of birth. This cannot be correct. DarkStarHarry (talk) 17:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)