Talk:Nonie Darwish

Ext. Links tag

External links are not categorized and are one-sided. Some links are from unsuitable sources.--128.208.36.149 00:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please be specific. Which ones do you believe unsuitable? The ones to her organizationw, or the interviews with The Observer and such? Also, I think you put on the POV tag - what part of the article do you find POV, and why? --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 00:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Darwish is a Christian, not a Muslim

Darwish is a member of a christian evangelical church and is not a Muslim. Cleaned up article with its implications that she is a Muslim currently —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.145.224.173 (talk) 18:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Criticism

I think it is notable criticism when a professor of literature, who teaches in this area, publishes such claims. Please discuss before reverting. --Tirpse77 (talk) 23:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, "notability" which you offered as criterion for reversion applies to articles, not their contents. Please provide a stronger basis for removing this salient criticism. --Tirpse77 (talk) 23:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Books and references

For some reason this citation was appended to her works. I think we're OK in assuming these books actually exist. The citation should probably be integrated as an inline citation. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex

• Gilbert, Lela (October 23, 2007). "An 'infidel' in Israel". Jerusalem Post. Retrieved October 5, 2009.

Checking references

About the statement: Hafez founded the fedayeen who launched raids across Israel's southern border, that between 1951 and 1956, killed some 400 Israelis, the majority civilians

I tried to find in reference (2) and (4) information about the 400 people killed, but I could only find in (2) Colonel Mustafa Hafez was a Feyadeen commander, an Egyptian intelligence officer who organised lethal raids from Gaza that killed hundreds of Jews, including many civilians. In (4) there was nothing about the number of people killed. I changed that phrase to a neutral one: Hafez founded the fedayeen who launched raids across Israel's southern border, that between 1951 and 1956 killed many Israelis, the majority civilians. FelipeFD (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Controversy at the University of New Mexico

On February 23, 2012, Ms. Darwish spoke at the Anthropology Lecture Hall at the University of New Mexico (UNM). According to the local newspaper, the Albuquerque Journal, "The incident, on Feb. 23 drew national attention after a YouTube video showed female protesters being shoved by at least two elderly men. Nobody was seriously injured, UNM said." Bob Frank, the new UNM president was taken to task several days later by students who faulted him for being unaware of the incident. Story in the Albuquerque Journal: http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2012/03/06/news/new-unm-pre-zon-hot-seat.html (Subscription required)

The YouTube videos, with many emotional comments appended, can be viewed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GOAwEJVYk and at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOx8tXUeXMU Wikiphan44 (talk) 20:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)Fred Chavez

Critic or Islamophobe?

Is she a Critic or Islamophobe?Tipszelig (talk) 19:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Islamophobe --🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 04:24, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Views on Islam

One of the references, a 2015 article by Adam Yaghi, quotes from her book https://books.google.com/books?id=Q7xROnREYBkC&q but the page numbers of the quotes are not in the wikipedia article, nor are the quotes readily found with an on-line search of her book. The wikipedia article should make clear by using page numbers from her books, which views are hers and which views are imputed to her. MichelleInSanMarcos (talk) 00:08, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

External links modified

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SPLC

Stefka Bulgaria, WP:SPLC considers SPLC to be a reliable source with attribution. That's exactly how it is used in this article, so please don't remove reliably sourced material.VR _talk 15:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Stefka Bulgaria, National Post is also generally considered reliable so this removal by you is also inappropriate.VR _talk 15:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

some URLs (even including some at 'archive dot org') are dead links

As of the current version (the "Latest revision as of 20:22, 21 March 2022" version) of the file "Nonie Darwish", the URL pointed to from a hyperlink inside [the 'value' of] the "website" field of the "{{Infobox person}}" template instance ... seems to be [an example of] a dead link.

Even though that URL -- namely, https://web.archive.org/web/20060407032422/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/ -- points to a "saved" archive version (on the web site "web.archive.org") of some web page that someone (or some robot) took a "snapshot" of, years ago (see the date code ["20060407", meaning "April 7, 2006"] inside the URL) ... when I tried to click on it (that is, when I tried to "dereference" that URL ... which means ... to use it) my browser displayed a web page that only said THIS: (in large bold print)

Error. Page cannot be displayed. Please contact your service provider for more details. (12)

In my opinion that entry (the URL in the [the 'value' of] the "website" field of the "{{Infobox person}}" template instance) should be updated.

IMHO it probably should not use a "snapshot" that is too recent, because I checked some recent ones, and ... e.g., the one at

• http://web.archive.org/web/20190119121623/http://arabsforisrael.com/

(from Jan. 19, 2019) only says THIS:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and the NEWER "snapshots" of that web page, (at "web.archive.org" but with more recent dates) -- (at least, the ones I checked) -- had even LESS [helpful] content.

Also, the one at

• http://web.archive.org/web/20180125164639/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

(from Jan. 25, 2018) only says THIS:
Error. Page cannot be displayed. Please contact your service provider for more details. (14)

Also, the one at

• http://web.archive.org/web/20170120171117/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

(from Jan. 20, 2017) says even less than ... the content mentioned above, from 2019 (a guy who seems to be throwing his hands up, or shrugging his shoulders) or from 2018 (an Error message). It (the one from Jan. 20, 2017) seems to be saying ...NOTHING.

Also, the one at

• http://web.archive.org/web/20160110144437/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

(from Jan. 10, 2016) did *** at first *** seem to contain some helpful [actual] content, but ... it seemed to be taking forever to load (the browser kept issuing "Page Unresponsive" messages, each with an option to either "EXIT PAGE" or "WAIT").

I did find some very interesting content at ... a "snapshot" copy from 2010 of that web site page. It was at the ['web.archive.org'] URL

• https://web.archive.org/web/20100824155549/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

(so ... it was from Aug. 24, 2010) and it seemed to contain some interesting and helpful content ... especially for a reader interested in seeing what ideas and links were contained (as of 2010) on that "www.arabsforisrael.com" web site.

Someone else might find some other 'archived' version of some content from the "http://www.arabsforisrael.com/" web site that seems to be better, for some reason ... when it is time to do the updating of [the 'value' of] the "website" field in the "{{Infobox person}}" template instance in the article. For example, that other 'archived' version might be more recent (than Aug. 2010), and it might be considered to be more appropriate to insert (to use) there, because it is not as old. However, IMHO, that "snapshot" copy (from Aug. 24, 2010) of that web site page, at the URL

• https://web.archive.org/web/20100824155549/http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

does serve as an "existence proof", that there is at least one 'archived' version that is available, that is not a dead link.

Thanks for your patience, if you read this ... even though there might be some "TMI" parts.

Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 08:08, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

PS: Also, this snapshot (or "archived") copy:

• https://web.archive.org/web/20070410120124/http://arabsforisrael.com/

is ... even older than the one from 2010 (this one is from April 10, 2007) but ... at least, this one (from 2007) is -- like the one from 2010 -- NOT a dead link. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 08:49, 22 March 2022 (UTC)