Talk:Novitiate (film)

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Nosehair2200 in topic Maggie Betts

Maggie Betts

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The vast majority of sources, as well as her on-screen and poster, call her Maggie Betts. That is her official name, and the WP:COMMONNAME. — Film Fan 11:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

From what I am reading, I do not believe that this Maggie Betts knows anything about the Catholic Church, Vatican II, et al. While I will grant you that there were, and still are, people who have had issues with Vatican II, that letter sounds like it was written by someone who had a problem with Vatican II. --Nosehair2200 (talk) 21:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Screenplay

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Sony has the screenplay online as part of their publicity materials.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/awards-information/screenplays/novitiate_screenplay.pdf

--Nbauman (talk) 04:55, 29 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Archbishop's memo

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Archbishop McCarthy's memo, which Reverend Mother Marie Saint Clare is finally forced to read to the congregation, really summarizes the entire movie. We should summarize this in significant detail in the plot summary. I'm familiar with copyright law, and this short excerpt from the movie would not violate copyright law by its use in scholarship and criticism like Wikipedia.

“From now on, please be advised that Priests are no longer required to read the liturgy in Latin, and should face the congregation during Holy Mass.... All Catholics are further encouraged to embrace the idea of full and complete religious tolerance. While we may not share the same beliefs as others, we will honor and respect each and every individual’s belief as their own, not persecute others on the basis of their beliefs ... Please be advised also that all nuns and women religious, cloistered and non cloistered, are no longer required to wear the traditional religious habit as a symbol of their lifelong matrimony to Christ. In fact, they’re now free to wear what they want....” Regarding the culture of more extreme abnegation and self-punishment, still prevalent in many of our communities today- Please be advised that according to the council, this is no longer understood to be the appropriate path to follow, for all those seeking greater union with Christ... It is no longer acceptable to view any acts of suffering, self-punishment, or extreme sacrifice - as an act of love, or way to gain favor with our Lord. We, as Catholics, need to learn to understand love in a different way... Finally, from here forward and in the eyes of both the church and God alike, the status of all nuns wi ll be reduced as equal to that of any regular practicing Catholic. While the choice to enter the convent remains one’s own, this does not necessarily make nuns any more ‘beloved’ or ‘special’ in God’s eyes.

--Nbauman (talk) 18:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC)Reply