Talk:Nuno Gomes (diver)

World record

I wouldn't call it an edit dispute, but for consistency we need to work out who really holds the record on the deepest dive - the Pascal Bernabé article has a cited source for saying that he broke Nuno Gomes' record within a couple of months. Do we have anything that indicates to the contrary? --Legis (talk - contribs) 14:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Not valid info any more

Ahmed Gabr took the world record from Nuno Gomes in 2014. this page need to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.47.86.164 (talk) 08:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

It will be updated when a reliable source is provided for that information. Please take note of the expectations at WP:Verifiability. --RexxS (talk) 18:49, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Update: This source may be a bit short of RS, but the image looks credible. I'd be inclined to go with it.

• Liang, John (19 September 2014). "Ahmed Gabr Breaks Scuba Diving World Record". DeeperBlue.com. Retrieved 19 September 2014.

Any better sources out there? --RexxS (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Inconsistent cave diving record information?

The article first states that Nuno held "the cave diving record from 1996 to 2016" and then says that he "holds the official current Guinness World Record for the deepest cave dive". This appears to be inconsistent, but it might be correct if the *new* 2016 record -that supposedly superseded Nuno's 1996 record- did not obtain the Guinness award, or is still in the process of getting it. Dos anyone have any information about that *new* 2016 record? Does anyone have access to the current Guinness records?

Also, is it correct to say that "He is the holder of two world records...", or should it say "He is the FORMER holder of..."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.21.44.26 (talk) 06:34, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

If you are interested: The current one is held by Xavier Méniscus since 30 December 2019 with 286.2 m (939 feet) in the Font Estramar, France. See also the table at Deep diving.
Details: Xavier Méniscus bat le record du monde plongée souterraine à - 286 m Video at YouTube Alfie↑↓© 07:42, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Reverting unsourced edits

I have reverted @Nunodeep:'s edits because they are replacing existing, sourced content with unsourced materials. XYZt (talk) 23:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

It's quite probably Gomes, as he's edited the article without supplying sources in the past, but he should not be removing sourced material and replacing it with his own commentary.

@CambridgeBayWeather: Please remove the full protection. XYZtSpace has enforced our sourcing policy throughout, and has now started a thread here on the talk page. If Nunodeep violates policy in future, the solution is to block him, not to prevent other editors from editing the article, per WP:PP: "Wikipedia is built around the principle that anyone can edit it, and it therefore aims to have as many of its pages as possible open for public editing". The present version of the article that XYZtSpace has been assiduously restoring has been stable since November 2017, complies with policy, and has consensus. It does need archiveurl and achivedate parameters adding to a previously dead link, so further maintenance is needed. --RexxS (talk) 11:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

OK. But the reason for reverting Nunodeep is not a valid reason to edit war. Someone else should have reverted and/or a request for protection should have been filed. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:54, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I certainly agree that edit-warring isn't the solution, but XYZtSpace is seemingly quite new to the site, and you know it's always tempting just to fix a problematical edit by reverting it, then the next one ... and so on. I'm sure he'll now better understand how it's best to go straight to talk after the first revert, and if that doesn't work, to reach out for assistance. Protection isn't the solution he would be looking for, so he'd need a sympathetic experienced editor to help out. I see that {u|Pbsouthwood|Peter Southwood}} has engaged directly on Nunodeep's talk page, so we have more eyes on the issue now. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 12:46, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't WP:3RRBLP apply? This is a biography of a living person. Work permit (talk) 17:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I've seen so many editors come unstuck when they rely on 3RRBLP that I'd never recommend anyone to count on it as an exemption in anything but the most blatantly egregious violations of BLP. This is most probably Nuno Gomes writing about himself, so it's unlikely to be libellous. If it comes down to being "poorly sourced", that will always end up as a matter of opinion. --RexxS (talk) 21:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)