Talk:One Health Trust
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editMoved discussion from WP:RMTR for posterity ([1]): (by No such user (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)):
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The company named "Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy" was renamed in 2021 to "One Health Trust," per their website. 174.160.66.16 (talk) 15:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- That is so. However, the old name currently receives more results in a Google search, making that the WP:COMMONNAME. This is a WP:PCM. If you wish to continue with your request, click the discuss link in your request to begin a formal WP:RM discussion. Once you've done that, or if you do not wish to continue, please remove your request. Thanks! Since you are an IP and can't be pinged, this request will be removed in 1 day, like it was the last time you requested it. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- I got involved in the first request for this one back on May 19. I think the move request is valid per WP:OFFICIAL, as opposed to WP:COMMONNAME, but none of that matters if the requester does not take it to the next level. Either way, the article needs to be significantly re-written to indicate the change in the organization's name. I have reported this to Wikipedia:Cleanup, where volunteers may take action. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Doesn't WP:OFFICIAL just say that official names have no special status, so WP:COMMONNAME is what is important? On the other hand, WP:NAMECHANGES applies here, and we should consider whether independent sources have adopted the new name (which seems very likely here). — BarrelProof (talk) 00:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sure. Has that happened yet? Ghits are insufficient to determine as we have to look at dates of the sources and not go on raw hit numbers, so that's a more onerous burden. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:40, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- My point above might be justified by either WP:OFFICIAL or WP:NAMECHANGES, but for a company/organization I find it nonsensical to use an article title that is not their current name that they use for themselves, just because their old defunct name gets more Google hits. That's nothing but a function of time. If their old name existed for decades and the new name for only weeks, then of course the old one is more common... numerically. If they really call themselves One Health Trust now, then so does everyone else and so should we. This isn't the same as the classic Bill Clinton/William Clinton distinction. However, I concede that for this organization it's unclear if this change is truly official yet. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. The company posted about the title change here: https://onehealthtrust.org/news-media/blog/cddep-to-oht/
- Other sources cite the same title change:
- https://www.ucis.pitt.edu/global/one-health-trust
- https://www.healthcareradius.in/projects/one-health-trust-gets-land-for-new-campus 174.160.66.16 (talk) 19:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Doesn't WP:OFFICIAL just say that official names have no special status, so WP:COMMONNAME is what is important? On the other hand, WP:NAMECHANGES applies here, and we should consider whether independent sources have adopted the new name (which seems very likely here). — BarrelProof (talk) 00:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- I got involved in the first request for this one back on May 19. I think the move request is valid per WP:OFFICIAL, as opposed to WP:COMMONNAME, but none of that matters if the requester does not take it to the next level. Either way, the article needs to be significantly re-written to indicate the change in the organization's name. I have reported this to Wikipedia:Cleanup, where volunteers may take action. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)