Talk:Ons Jabeur

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The total prize money of $236.000 does not correspond to the total prize won according to the list of tournaments Ons Jabeur has won. Make a basic calculation and one can find out that the sum won on these tournaments(if the list is accurate of course) exceeds the total prize money by a large margin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.106.186.250 (talk) 18:45, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 16:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Going to review this article. MWright96 (talk) 16:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• The first mention of No. should be converted to read as No.
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Early life and background

• "She grew up in the bigger nearby coastal town of Sousse." - larger
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "a national sport high school" - not so sure that this is the correct way to spell this out
  • Which part? "Lycee sportif" basically translates to "sport high school". Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Junior career

• As with the first query in the lead section, the first mention of No. should be converted to read as No.
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

2008–12: WTA debut

• Wikilink wild card to [[Wild card (sports)]
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "She was also given a wild card into qualifying at the Dubai Tennis Championships the following week." - the qualifying competition
  • I think you forgot to finish this one? Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Added. MWright96 (talk) 06:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

2013–16: Steady in the top 200 at the ITF level

• "She entered qualifying at Wimbledon and the US Open," - how about entered the qualifying competitions instead?
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "and did not win any titles in 2015." - and no titles in 2015.
  • Changed the sentence a bit to "Her only ITF title in 2014 came at a $25K event in Tunis, and she did not win any titles in 2015." Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

2017–18: Top 100 debut, and then first WTA final

• "With this title, she also earned a wildcard" - should that be spelt as wild card to be consistent?
  • Yes. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

2019–20: Grand Slam quarterfinal, top 50 debut

• "She defeated three players including No. 36, Yulia Putintseva" - not mentioned in the WTA Tennis source attached to it
  • Added match history as a source. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:24, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "In February 2020, Jabeur continued her progress and reached the second round of the Dubai Tennis Championships, where she lost to Simona Halep, despite having a match point in the third set tiebreak." - none of this is mentioned in the Romania Insider source so another reference that mentions all of this information is needed to replace it
  • Replaced source. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:24, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Fed Cup

• "that also included Mexico, China, and Germany." - the countries mentioned here should be wikilinked to their respective Fed Cup team articles
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "Tunisia ultimately did not participate in Fed Cup in 2014 or 2015," - in the Fed Cup
  • For some reason, it is standard to leave out the "the" here. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "which was concurrent with Tunisia's one-year ban from Davis Cup" - from the Davis Cup
  • Same as above. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Olympics

• Jabeur also represented Tunisia in singles at the London Olympic Games in 2012 in London" - the text in bold is redundant since London is already mentioned beforehand
  • Removed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Playing style

• Wikilink drop shot and forehands for non-Tennis readers
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Personal life

• "a Russian-Tunisian former fencer who has also served as her fitness coach since 2017." - you can clarify that it was mid-2017 as stated in the GQ Middle East source
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "Her favorite tennis player as a child was Andy Roddick." - The WTA Tennis source attached to this does state why Roddick is her favorite player if you believe that information would help
  • I left it out because it varies a little bit in other sources. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "She plays football recreationally, and is a fan of Real Madrid CF." - WTA Tennis states that she supports Real Madrid but not that she plays it recreationally
  • Added a source. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "At the tournament, she entered the main draw as a lucky loser and won her first two career Grand Slam main draw matches." - not so sure of the relevance of this information in the personal life section. It could be better to remove it since it is mentioned in the 2017-18 sub-section
  • I abbreviated it to only include the last part. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

References

• Reference 15 should include the Associated Press as the agency who provided the story and it should include the subscription parameter
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• References 31, 35 are missing the dates they were published
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• "'I felt like I was home!' – Peterson fights back to beat Jabeur and make Tianjin final" - the hyphen should be replaced by an en dash
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Overall the main issues concern some of the wording of the prose and material not supported by some sources. On hold. MWright96 (talk) 20:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing this one too, MWright96! I addressed everything above. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
• MWright96, added that last one. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• Sportsfan77777 Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 06:50, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Jabeur ethnicity

Many articles write that Ons Jabeur is an Arab tennis player. I don’t believe Tunisians are Arabs but rather ethnically Berbers. Nor is Tunisia part of the Middle East but rather North Africa. There seems to me to be a confusion between being Muslim and being Arabic. Can anyone clarify this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.172.183.139 (talk) 16:12, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

error

in quick facts Grand Slam singles results, she is noted as having won ("W") the 2022 Wimbledon. But that match has just begun. 68.194.123.196 (talk) 13:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

This has already been fixed. This page isn't protected, so feel free to fix mistakes like this yourself the next time you see them. Iffy★Chat -- 13:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Photos - some were quite poor and un-needed

Some of the pics being put up are really bad and don't enhance the article with info. We don't need extra pics with her husband or off balance shots from years ago. We want a forehand, backhand, serve, and net volley. Perhaps a trophy or championship pose. Maybe one or two others if they are really sensational and never more than 10. If we find a better pic we replace an old pic we don't just keep adding because we can. Please be a little more frugal and specific in future additions. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:33, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors

In the introducing part, you have written that she is the first African and Arab woman who has reached Grand slam QF, and the first one who won Wta title, which is not correct, as Amanda Coetzer did that in 90s. So, she is the first Arab woman, not African, to have done that. Cara Black also has won 1 Wta title in singles. 93.137.69.199 (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

As of July 2023 the article still says ‘At the 2020 Australian Open, Jabeur became the first African or Arab woman to reach a major quarterfinal’, which is still incorrect as per the original error. 2A01:4B00:9002:E400:25E0:C2AB:1FDF:FF41 (talk) 13:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't "still" say it. It was properly removed but at some point later it was erroneously re-added. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Name pronunciation and latin spelling

I am confused. Article says pronunciation is "Uns Džábir". At this site: https://www.wtatennis.com/players/316847/ons-jabeur we can play audio where we can hear how she pronounce her name herself. She says "Ons Žabér". I know that Tunisia was French colony and it sounds to me like she is French ethnic, not Arab. And why article name (Ons Jabeur) differs from latin transcription stated in article (Uns Jābir)? Nadsenec2 (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nadsenec2: Before seeing your reply I added in Jabeur’s personal pronunciation as a footnote. Note that the audio clip has her pronouncing her name in English, though obviously in the French style and not the Arabic.

Keep in mind also that players/people can alter their pronunciation based on the language – compare the audio on Jean-Julien Rojer’s ATP player profile to how he pronounces his name in Dutch interviews.

Overall it does seem that Jabeur identifies more with the French culture, at least as far as her name is concerned, but it’s still not apparent which ethnicity she belongs to. I don’t think the two are especially distinct in modern Tunisia, and she obviously speaks Arabic, French and English. Rovingrobert (talk) 04:34, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

First Muslim to reach a major final claim

Marat Safin won the 2000 US open and.is Muslim 82.2.91.195 (talk) 22:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

First African player claim

I believe the first paragraph should state that Jabeur was the first North African player, male or female, to reach a major singles final. Currently neglects Kevin Anderson (South African, reached two GS finals). 192.234.2.18 (talk) 17:10, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. Thanks. --Wolbo (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

An Egyptian male won Wimbledon and French championships in the past. We aren't talking ethnicity, but a player representing Egypt. That's North Africa. And Marat Safin was Muslim and won two titles. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:59, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Prize money

The prize won should be changed to over 11 million after Ons reached Wimbledon 2023. 1.40.185.117 (talk) 02:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

this page is not updating. After round 16 the prize should be changed. 120.18.154.175 (talk) 01:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)