Talk:Operation Legend

Capitalization of Operation Legend

Our lead begins "Operation Legend (or Operation LeGend) is a federal law enforcement operation." Note the uppercase G in our alternate name. On July 8, 2020, in announcing the launch of Operation Legend, U.S. Attorney General Barr said: Operation Legend is named in honor of one of Kansas City's youngest victims, four-year old LeGend Taliferro who was shot in the face while sleeping in his bed. LeGend's death is a horrifying reminder that violent crime left unchecked is a threat to us all and cannot be allowed to continue. Subsequently, some media outlets have capitalized the operation the same as its namesake, and in a press release on July 20, 2020, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Missouri did likewise. However, all press releases to date from the U.S. Department of Justice's Office of Public Affairs, including AG Barr's launch announcement, have styled the program as Operation Legend, not Operation LeGend. Unless there is consensus here to do otherwise, I propose that Wikipedia follow the preponderance of official communications from the DOJ and capitalize the program as Operation Legend, except where directly quoting a source that does otherwise. NedFausa (talk) 16:10, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

• Agree - use “Legend” as WP:COMMONNAME, other than noting the WP:OTHERNAMES in the lead and where directly quoting “LeGend” or explaining the origin. LeGend seems the form used by White House and some press such as Kansas City. Legend seems the form more used in press and by the Justice department including FBI and DEA. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 21:26, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Clarification/Propaganda

"For Operation Legend, agents from various federal agencies were deployed to aid city and county law enforcement officers."

This is the line from the White House, but it seems one sided to state this as "fact", should there be an "allegedly" in there since this point is largely and currently contested as to the motive of sending in Federal Agents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.50.0.20 (talk) 20:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no reason to change the wording to create propaganda and sow disbelief against the government and law enforcement. There are many conspiracy theorists that believe that the moon landings didn't happen, but Wikipedia shouldn't cater to them by writing that the moon landings "allegedly happened". Wikipedia should be factual and not spread hate and conspiracy theories. But it would be fine to add what some critics say, that they call the federal law enforcement officers "stormtroopers" and "Gestapo", and that they claim that them arresting criminals is "terrorizing the citizens". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A07:A880:4601:1012:5EC5:1997:B5F5:A60D (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

• No, the article is OK. The whitehouse line only needs a cite, it is being portrayed as a quote attributed to them. But for name-calling.... Such flagrant WP:LABEL would need to show many RS noting to prove it is common and WP:DUE some notice, and would have to give caveats as to location and who said it. Basically, if it’s said enough that there starts to be official responses, we say it as something said by opponents — and to be NPOV then also note praises. Frankly, I think Kansas City and the mother of LeGend are going to be obvious inclusions, and so the negative reactions of Chicago and New Mexico are appropriate, but “gestapo” comes off a bit lunatic. Cheers Markbassett (talk) 21:43, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
• Well it clearly is what the Operation's intended purpose is, to aid local law enforcement agencies in battling rising general crime, often looting and vandalism related to the protests. So it is indeed a fact rather than something which has been alleged. Azaan Habib 13:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

• Oh yeah, like there's 'alleged' fraud in the election, as if he's magically never lied... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.8.69 (talk) 04:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)