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I appreciate that the links I added were already in the article, but other articles use similar tactics in the See Also section- they were intended to allow a reader, having just finished reading the article, to easily find another, related article: a summary of the more important links used in the article.

I don't want to engage in an edit war, so, to help expand the article a little and help people who don't know anything about the subject, which internal links would you suggest?

If you want to discuss it, feel free to use my talk page.

EvocativeIntrigue 16:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

New name

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I suggest the name Siachen Glacier War per WP:MilHIST guidelines as Operation Meghdoot is Indian-POV. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

No. It's not a war and even Pakistan sources refer to this as Op Meghdoot. Idleguy 14:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
a little name fixing, Siachen War --TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
How about "The singular case of a bunch of breathless idiots fighting over a giant ice cube?" Makes a change from all the other stupid things humans fight over. Imagine the size of the whiskey glass it could fit into!
All sources listed here and anywhere you'll see mention this specific assault in 1984 as Op Meghdoot. Actually you'll have to prove otherwise that it was a "war". No credible source mentions it as such. Thanks. Idleguy 14:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

WP:MilHist:Operational codenames generally make poor titles, as the codename gives no indication of when or where the battle took place and only represents one side's planning (potentially causing the article to focus on that side's point of view to the detriment of the other). It is better to use an appropriate geographical name for the article, creating a redirect from the operational name. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

also, the infobox is full of rubbish (name, date etc...) --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Pl avoid making wholesale changes, including changing the Ind-Pak campaign box when your claims are neither properly sourced nor do they have a consensus in changing over here. Thanks. Idleguy 15:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
have you ever heard for pre-emptive war? I'm for hearing other thoughts...--TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
infobox still full of rubbish. it contradicts the article --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
War at the Top of the World, please read the milHist guidelines... --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
and please, do not WP:OWN --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
  • Please dont indulge in speculation and original research. Everything you add in Wikipedia is to be properly sourced. Actually that Time magazine article is one of the sources I used and no it doesn't refer to this specific incident as Siachen War or something like that.
see the infobox conflict name and date. This is a Preemptive war, what do you think it is other than that, see also Six-Day War
AGAIN: WP:MilHist:Operational codenames generally make poor titles, as the codename gives no indication of when or where the battle took place and only represents one side's planning (potentially causing the article to focus on that side's point of view to the detriment of the other). It is better to use an appropriate geographical name for the article, creating a redirect from the operational name.

Examples:

This is simply WP:milHist. This is a war per se, as the others above, whether claimed or not. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

p.s. yes, also possible version is 1984 Siachen conflict, but war because not different from Kargil War--TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
ehm, I saw Siachen War, like Kargil War - the same standards. You still did not get the point and the infobox still contains Operation Trident - this statement raises doubts over your knowledge of this thing, I will have to activate WP:Milhist --TheFEARgod (Ч) 17:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Why do people quoting that guideline on codenames always omit the second part? If this conflict/engagement/whatever is overwhelmingly known under an operational codename (which may or may not be the case—I'm not an expert on this topic by any stretch of the imagination—but is certainly suggested by the Google results), then it should be left at that title, rather than being moved to an arbitrary geographic one that's not used in actual historical literature on this topic. (Indeed, the "most common name" principle is almost universal in Wikipedia's naming conventions.) Kirill Lokshin 22:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I concur - the article name should correspond to the name used in the historical literature. The ghits seem to suggest that Operation Meghdoot is the most common name, but I also cannot speak from any position of authority or expertise. Carom 22:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

and what with this:

and POV?--TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

You'd have to ask the people who moved those articles; presumably the codenames are not widely enough used for the "most common name" principle to outweigh the drawbacks of employing them as article title. Kirill Lokshin 22:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
  • btw, pl look at Template talk:Campaignbox Indo-Pakistani Wars where I've responded in detail. If Siachen needs to be linked then the template name should be changed to Conflicts and the correct link should point to the war/conflict and not just one of the operations of the siachen conflict that has gone on since 1984. Also TheFEARgod has not spelt out clearly what needs to be cleaned up in the page here. The tag itself says that a more precise problem needs to be identified instead of a vague tag. Thanks. Idleguy 05:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

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