Talk:Opposition to World War II

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This article should probably be renamed to "American Opposition to World War II" as it only encompasses an American point of view. Wikipedia is global. As a non-American, this article is incredibly confusing.

-- Wikiwhat? 05:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, needs more editing to make it less US-centric, altho it has improved.BobFromBrockley (talk) 13:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Americentric

Entire article centres on the United States - without coming out and saying it. Very confusing. And poorly written.68.146.200.201 02:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Definitely not the entire article. The section on isolationism is all US-centric, but that's partly due to the character of that movement. Half of the section on socialism is US-centric. I'll work on adding more.

-- Randy2063 14:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Jewish mass suicide

The article states that Ghandi suggested that the Jews "commit mass suicide" in response to Hitler. I decided to check the source and there is no direct quote which confirms this. The closest that it comes is a quote by Ghandi to the effect of "the Jews died anyway, they might as well have died significantl" The article is not so much a historical account as an opinion piece so I am not certain it belongs in this article. In addition Ghandi's opinions are slightly distorted in order to maximize the offensiveness. Here is an example of what Gahndi actually said

"If I were a Jew and were born in Germany and earned my livelihood there, I would claim Germany as my home even as the tallest gentile German may, and challenge him to shoot me or cast me in the dungeon; I would refuse to be expelled or to submit to discriminating treatment. And for doing this, I should not wait for the fellow Jews to join me in civil resistance but would have confidence that in the end the rest are bound to follow my example. If one Jew or all the Jews were to accept the prescription here offered, he or they cannot be worse off than now."

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I just redirected the badly-written and essayish WWII Protesting to here. If you really want to put any of this stuff in here, help youself:

World War II protesting

There were many debates on the protesting during the World War II era. They didn’t know if protesting should be allowed. Some people think that there wasn’t much protesting. Also, why did we protest against the WWII? Some wars’ protesting was different than WWII’s protesting. Protesting wasn’t a major event in the 1940s.

Many wars were similar, but different than WWII. For example, 43,000 people objected WWII, but 100,000 people protested the Iraq war, leaving a difference of 57,000 people! ^[1,2] Also, similarity wise, WWII, the Vietnam War, and the Iraq war all have or have had protesting^.[3,4] Also, there were signs for the Iraq war, but none for WWII^.[5,6] There were or are many essays protesting one of the listed wars<! ^.[7] You can now see that there are probably more differences than similarities of the wars.

One may not know why the Americans protested WWII. That person will soon find out. One reason Americans protested WWII was because there was much victory by Germans. ^[8] There were also many deaths. ^[9] Some people, also, didn’t agree with women working. ^[10] Since men were at war, women had to work. ^[11] They didn’t like the fact that women were working. WWII’s protesting really didn’t have much cause.

There wasn’t much protesting going on during the WWII. As said by a person alive during World War II, was that there wasn’t much protesting at all. ^[12] When there was protesting it was only on the radio. ^[13] Protesting wasn’t publicized that much, so it wasn’t considered that there was much protesting. Also, there weren’t any signs made for protesting, so there couldn’t be as much protesting. There wasn’t as much protesting as one may think.

Overall, many things caused WWII protesting, there wasn’t much protesting during that time period, and there are similarities of protesting from other wars. Many people think that protesting occurred much during the time period. People think that protesting is bad while others think that protesting is okay in certain situations. I think that protesting isn’t that good, though, people can have their own opinions, and they just shouldn’t show them. Protesting is a different subject for some people, but it can get pretty interesting.

Just a note on the numbers of protestors. The US population was 130 million in 1940 and 300 million now, so the number of protestors is actually the same by percent of population at about .033 %. That's a very small number.

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 [6]Interview.
 [7][www.vietvet.org/thepast.htm]
 [8]History book
 [9]Ibid.
 [10]Ibid.
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[13] interview

Totnesmartin 13:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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Page content

I see two main problems in defining the page, the definition of World War 2 and the definition of opposition. The definition from World War II is it started with the German invasion of Poland and Asian World War II started in late '41. Therefore British appeasement or any Japanese reluctance for war with China would not be included. I take opposition to be of two kinds, anti-war on principle and anti the involvement of your country in the war. Therefore I would exclude American sanctions on Japan as they were not either of these. These are just some ideas so I can start improving the page, as I fear this page could easily spiral out of control. Dushan Jugum (talk) 06:02, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Caveat One: I think a detailed background section will be needed. Dushan Jugum (talk) 21:53, 23 September 2021 (UTC)