Talk:Oscar Robertson

Wilt Chamberlain quote

I can't find a source for the Wilt Chamberlain quote in the lead section. If anyone can, please cite it -- if not, the quote should be removed. CalebNoble 08:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The quote has been removed. Myasuda 07:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Important points about The Big O

• First, his background. The Indianapolis he grew up in was very racially segregated. As a black, Robertson had to face down a lot of racism and he never forgot that. The U. of Indiana would not offer him a scholarship. The U. of Cincinnati gave him academic problems.
• Second, the guy was very cutting edge as a player. A big point guard who could post up other guards near the basket. At times much like a center or a forward, at other times very much the point guard. Magic Johnson and Anfernee Hardaway were compared to Oscar. At 6'5 he was very strong in an era of 200-pound forwards.
• Third, the guy was no-flash by choice. No dunks, no in-yo-face. He was intelligent, calculating. He controlled the game's tempo with the ball. He analyzed matchups and played to win. He could impose his will on a game like few ever. He is the all-time NBA point guard.
• Fourth, the triple-doubles. Oscar will tell you they are overrated. He did them in the flow of the game without any thought to his stats. Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain has triple-doubles also. But blocked shots were not counted then. There were more rebounds available in the 60s. Assists were harder to get in his day. He went after a ton of free throws. The stats don't matter. His all-around talent did not need numbers.
• Fifth, the Royals were a mess. The owners drafted only local guys and looked to sell hotdogs. Oscar was sometimes part of the problem with the racial division of the team. But they played several seasons in the wrong division, had to deal with the Celtics, 76ers and Knicks, all of whom won titles, and lost key guys to expansion. The Royals also had four coaches during Oscar's run there. Yes, the guy did have an issue with Jerry Lucas that was race-related.
• Sixth, the guy was president of the NBA Players Union, taking over for Bob Cousy and Tom Heinsohn. He sued the NBA individually as well. He never backed down on principle and made an impact with the league off the court.
• Seventh, he could have kept playing, but he couldn't get the pay he wanted. The Milwaukee Bucks never contended again without him.
• Last, He entered the Hall of Fame along side Jerry West and Jerry Lucas. Oscar makes the case he is the greatest player ever. He isn't. By his own admission, Wilt Chamberlain is. But you will still hear him make his case. Ultimately, he has gone a long way to serve himself. But he is a remarkable person who was a truly rare basketball player.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerjets11 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Needs A Photo

ASAP. Quadzilla99 18:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

This request is now active again. Thanks to Timpcrk87 for the heads-up. Myasuda 00:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Major rewrite

In my attempt to put BigO into GA range, I have rewritten the article... including that pic. I'll put it through peer review first, and then go for GA, I guess. —Onomatopoeia 11:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Went for the GA nomation now. —Onomatopoeia 17:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

looks good overall no real quibbles. Chensiyuan 17:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Both images appear to have disappeared, so I've removed the red links, I'm sure they ought not feature in a GA, hope you don't mind. The Rambling Man 09:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I've implemented most of the changes described in the automated peer review. Just a couple left, an image and a proper copyedit, although I have spell checked it and unified it into US English. The Rambling Man 11:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

"called by some the greatest assemblage of amateur basketball talent ever". is this likely to attract NPOV, given it is unsourced? Chensiyuan 03:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

GA review

I am granting this article GA status. There are a few minor grammar errors, but they are so minor that I'll fix them myself. I do have one minor concern: shouldn't the Olympic medal box go right after the main infobox? Either way, good job on the article.

An article I have been working on, Cape Feare, is currently a GAC and if you could review it, it would be much appreciated. -- Scorpion 19:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Most recent player pages have an "international career" section that includes the medal box (if applicable). Maybe that section should be added for the Big "O". Moretz (talk) 14:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Just noticed that this discussion/question is quite old, so I moved the medal table to the 1960 Olympics section to make it more similar to recent player pages. This layout seems consistent within basketball, but doesn't seem to match athletes in other sports (e.g., skiing). I've decided that that issue is beyond my pay grade :) Moretz (talk) 14:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Oscar Robertson/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment. This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Jackyd101 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

A decent standard of prose but with a few cliches that can disrupt the flow.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

References should be better formatted, as below.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail:

Citations

The internet inline citations used in this article are improperly formatted. Internet citations require at the very least information on the title, publisher and last access date of any webpages used. If the source is a news article then the date of publication and the author are also important. This information is useful because it allows a reader to a) rapidly identify a source's origin b) ascertain the reliability of that source and c) find other copies of the source should the website that hosts it become unavaliable for any reason. It may also in some circumstances aid in determining the existance or status of potential copyright infringments. Finally, it looks much tidier, making the article appear more professional. There are various ways in which this information can be represented in the citation, listed at length at Wikipedia:Citing sources. The simplest way of doing this is in the following format:

<ref>{{cite web|(insert URL)|title=|publisher=|work=|date=|author=|accessdate=}}</ref>

As an example:

• <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.discovery.org/a/3859|title=Avoiding a Thirty Years War|publisher=www.discovery.org|work=[[The Washington Post]]|date=2006-12-21|author=Richard W. Rahn|accessdate=2008-05-25}}</ref>

which looks like:

• Richard W. Rahn (2006-12-21). "Avoiding a Thirty Years War". The Washington Post. www.discovery.org. Retrieved 2008-05-25.

If any information is unknown then simply omit it, but title, publisher and last access dates are always required. I strongly recommend that all internet inline references in this article be formatted properly. If you have any further questions please contact me and as mentioned above, more information on this issue can be found at Wikipedia:Citing sources. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Question aboout the triple-doubles

How many triple-doubles had big O in the regular season, and how many he had in the playoff?

Israel kramer, 77.126.56.182 (talk) 10:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

References section

Something odd seems to be going on with the references section in this article. Several references are preceded by an alphabetical sequence (abcdefg, etc.) with no apparent connection with the content in the article. It may be that this is supposed to indicate with reference tab is associated with each reference (since the same reference recurs many times), but the references are tagged numerically, no alphabetically. Anyone know what is up with those? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moretz (talk • contribs) 13:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Robertson monument

Hi from Russia) I upload statue of Robertson from Cincinnati: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Oscar_Robertson_Statue.jpg?uselang=ru please add this image to article --Steffaville (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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