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Further investigation has shown they are indeed the same person. However, I have a few questions... which rugby union club did he initially play for during his Bay of Plenty Rugby Union era? Which rugby league club did he play for during his initial Australian foray? What was his father's forename, could it be Mortimer? Which rugby league club did his father play for in England, could it be St. Helens, and Rochdale Hornets? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)Reply