Talk:Pablo González Yagüe
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editSo now when he have been exchanged by russia in an spy exhange woudnet adding Spy or GRU agent be apt? Darth malgus (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Would it also be apt to add CIA agent to Evan Gershkovich's page? Both of these allegations are simply allegations by world power rivals. In Gershkovich's case, he was convicted by a court. They were both released in the same exchange. I don't think it's Wikipedia's place to label as fact one claim against one alleged spy, but not against another. Wikiejd2 (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- This article is about Rubtsov, not about Gershkovitch. Jerzy124 (talk) 06:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well, that would be WP:OR. Mere fact that he was exchanged does not mean much. We can only cite reliable sources here, such as [1]. And it tells about the subject: A Russian spy who was living in Poland under the false pretense of being a Spanish journalist called Pablo Gonzales.. That source [2] is a little more careful about him. The point is: he was not proven in the court to be a GRU agent. More details can be found in other sources, such as The Insider - [3], or better this version. According to this, he worked together with another well known Russian GRU agent, Sergei Turbin to trace movements of Zhanna Nemtsova in Europe. My very best wishes (talk) 19:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2024/10/07/67042700e4d4d807758b4580.html Jerzy124 (talk) 07:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- This makes it pretty clear: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/15/journalist-russian-spy-pablo-gonzalez-kremlin-illegal 213.28.14.180 (talk) 15:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
How about adding "alleged to be a spy" or something like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.42.145 (talk) 12:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Pablo González Yagüe / Pavel Alekseyevich Rubtsov / Paweł Rubcow
editgerman language and polish language news:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:%C3%9Cber-Blick/Pablo_Gonz%C3%A1lez
Spy
edithttps://www.pap.pl/en/news/russian-spys-access-classified-docs-mistake-polish-president-says Jerzy124 (talk) 06:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2024/10/06/6702cbc421efa0496e8b4576.html Jerzy124 (talk) 06:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Russian Wikipedia quotes 3 Russian language sources, Ido not know how they are reliable. Jerzy124 (talk) 07:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Biased article
editThis text describes poor independent journalist oppressed by bad Poles. Let's at least describe both parallel biographies. Jerzy124 (talk) 06:25, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Changes hinting at his true identity up to now are constantly reverted, with one intransigent revisionist being a commie from German WP who had been repressed several times over there for vandalism etc. 79.230.18.223 (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)