Talk:Paintball marker

Hammer based markers

The statement "Any marker with a hammer, however, has a significant firing delay when compared to a full electropneumatic." is inaccurate. What defines a "full electropneumatic"? A marker that uses a solenoid to control the whole firing cycle would be an accurate definition. The author of this statement was possibly thinking of spool valve markers. Markers like the Intimidator, Ego, Angel and Cyborg all use hammers and are also fully electropneumatic. Their hammers are controlled by a pneumatic cylinder and solenoid, and the hammer is used to open the poppet.

Also, the so-called "firing delay" is measured from what? A term could be lock time which is used in firearms to determine the time from when the sear is disengaged to when the primer is ignited. In a marker, this could be the time from when the sear is dropped or other firing sequence is initiated to when the valve of the marker is fully open, whether that valve is a spool or poppet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.82.72 (talk) 06:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Paintball Pistols

Information about paintball pistols needs to be added. 22:40, 10 October 2006 Maximilli

Discussion

• Right, I'm done editing this page for tonight. It still needs some work. Need to put some links to specific paintball markers here on Wikipedia. Also need to do some external links to various manufactures. Maybe get some copyright-fee photos, as well.

--Compulsion 21:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

• Picture(s) requested. (diagrams to accompany the explanations would be nice too).

02:44, 12 October 2005 RJFJR

• Can someone confirm test that have shown barrel porting to increase accuracy and/or "decrease turbulence"? http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126924&highlight=porting seems to indicate that that all porting really does is make the barrel quieter...

68.40.188.13 19:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Hah, when it first appeared, barrel porting was supposed to actually make the gun -- pardon, MARKER (ok, ok, but come on, identity politics gets old) ahem, supposed to make them actually rifle the paintballs...which, nah. Think about the physics: paintballs are fired by a burst of air smacking them in the ass, royt? Ironically, if anything, porting only ends up causing loss of pressure and thus...lower velocity. Which means you turn up your air. Which means you're wasting air. I can't speak for the auditory levels of ported barrels versus non, but (and I'll find a better cite than my own old-school self) I actually own what was "determined" (not through science, but by consensus, I think) the best option -- minor porting at the end of the barrel. Yep, my Lapco Bigshot. They still make those? Anyone want a used 'Cocker, that said? I -- oh, uh, wrong forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.75.149 (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

• What're we going to do about the Tippmann C3? It actually uses igniting propane to propel the paintball. I'm going to wait a bit before writing anything about it, but the mechanism needs some explanation. Compulsion 16:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
• I have deleted the part about the use of nitrogen. While most paintballers do call it nitrogen, it is in fact just compressed air (which happens to be mostly nitrogen). In addition, I deleted the part about "nitrous". Paintballers do not use nitrous oxide, and those who call it nitrous are usually new players who are then made fun of for being ignorant about the sport. Rory096 13:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
• I'm not very familiar with paintball guns, but is there a reason for the large edit by 72.47.0.224 on 5/13? It looks to me like a lot of useful information was removed. -- Laenir 21:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
• Added "See also" section with links to all wikipedia articles I could find about specific markers. Also moved "See also" and "External links" sections up a level so they're no longer subsections of the "Stock Class" section. --Donutmonger 02:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The paintball is able to move farther at a lower speed, This is physically impossible. Can someone with knowledge of the device fix this? Otherwise I'm going to delete that statement. Range is a function of speed for a given mass. Slower = shorter range, unless you're shooting in a higher trajectory.Mzmadmike 15:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

if your talking about the flatline (which i think you are), the backspin creates a sort of lift, which helps it go farther, about the lower speed part, i'm not sure but i'm guessing that inducing the spin slows the paintball down, but the spin itself creates the lift which carries it further. tell me if i'm wrong.

peace-Threewaysround 02:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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• How about making this [[Category:Paintball_equipment]] and making that a subcategory? Seems like a lot of this information is duplicated in [[Paintball_equipment#marker]], and [[Paintball_equipment]] sounds an awful lot like a subcategory to me. Echoback 18:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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Anyone have an idea as to the standardization of Paintball equipment? For example, who decided to use UNF threading and why will almost any tank go in any marker?

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There seems to be a changing list of external links. It appears as though links are added by those promoting a site (albeit, some of the sites are useful), competitors delete them and add their own links, and the cycle continues. What standard should be used for external links? Until this question is resolved, I reverted the deletion of two external links. Although I hesitated to revert the deletion of pntball.com, a commercial site, it seemed inconsistent to leave the other commercial sites (all the other external links are commercial, advertisement based or direct sellers). Does anyone else have a suggestion regarding how to proceed on this question? Aarondanhall 14:16, 23 October 2007 (CST)

WikiProject Paintball

The Paintball WikiProject has been created. Please take a moment to visit its page, and join if you are interested. Thanks! - Maximilli, 19:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Pictures of markers

Requests, questions, and answers about pictures of markers go here.

I'm going to try to get some pics up, but first I have to actually take them, and then figure out the different licenses..... Or maybe with enough cajoling, I'll put them up without any license.

I'll take some pics of my Tippmann 98 Custom (or a model 98, whichever you all would prefer), and mabye of my BE (Brass Eagle) Tiger Shark. I will add the C98 (or M98) to the Tippmann article as well, if that is proper.

I can also take pics of my co2 tanks, of the stock model 98 barrel, a M98 Flatline, a carbon, and a J&J barrel.

That is, if they are needed, as the different parts of a paintball marker. The Editor 2 01:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• I think getting one barrel plus the flatline, and then the CO2 tank would be useful. - Toastydeath 03:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• I've got some high end tournament gear I can take pictures of. Alien Interceptor, Empire ReloaderB and HPA tank. What would be most helpful, though, is if someone could get some diagrams or even pictures of the internal operations of markers. I know a lot of them exist, but if we can't find the copyright holder, it'd be great if someone could make some themselves.--Hesir 23:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Hasn't anyone out there got a paintball gun and a digital camera? Anthony Appleyard 11:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I have a P99 RAM (a .43 paintball marker replica of a Walther P99) and a digital camera. Would photos of that be any use to anyone? LittlePete 19:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

History

It might be beneficial to insert a section on the history of these devices. Who invented the first one, what it was used for, the development of the device, how they came to be used in games, etc. I heard they were originally used for marking trees for lumbering, but have no idea if this is true.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 22:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

That is true, but I don't have details. Anyone? I believe the device was called a nelspot.

Also, there's a lot of jargon on this page that needs links or elaboration. I fixed a couple, but I'm a rifle shooter, not a paintballer, and don't want to edit things I don't know.Mzmadmike 15:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

external link to www.PaintBallsOfFury.com

Hi, I would like for you to consider adding my website (www.PaintBallsOfFury.com) as an external link to this page. This will give your readers a place to see what types of equipment are available. Thank you for your consideration.

Chad Hefton funnthesun@windstream.net chad.hefton@acxiom.com 501-514-5287 198.160.96.7 (talk) 21:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

• As per comment at Wikipedia:Help_desk#link to Wikipedia article from my website, this is to be discouraged as it is considered advertising. Thank you. Jwoodger (talk) 01:50, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

"Gun" vs "marker"

I've never heard these referred to as "paintball markers", which I assume is the hobbyist terminology. A Google search for "paintball gun" returns over 4 million hits while "paintball marker" returns less than 2 million. In other words usage is roughly 2:1 in favor of "paintball gun". Why is this article named "paintball marker" instead of "paintball gun"? Even if "marker" is the preferred terminology in hobbyist circles, this article title seems to violate at least the the recognizability and naturalness conditions of WP:NAMINGCRITERIA. As per WP:COMMONNAME, I quote, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's 'official' name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." I'm guessing that this article should be renamed. Jason Quinn (talk) 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - I'm sure there are very good reasons why players and promoters prefer to avoid the word "gun", and we should mention that, but the article title should reflect common usage. (I randomly had this on my watchlist and assumed it was about paintball pellets when it came up just now.) --McGeddon (talk) 19:54, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

There may be a legal issue as well - I don't know about the US, but in the UK paintball markers are not "guns" as the term is defined in law and as applies to both firearms and airpistols and air rifles. I'd say "marker" is both the technical term and the legal name. It's also consistent with the origens of the game. There is a redirect page in place for "paintball gun", so the chance of confusion is low.Jmackaerospace (talk) 16:12, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm from the UK, never heard the term "paintball marker" until I saw this article. 82.40.68.196 (talk) 05:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Biodegradable

Biodegradable paintballs, reballs (wooden) also exist, see http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/155975-post23.html

mention in article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:12E1:8E00:B178:EE7F:FEAA:7D63 (talk) 08:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

POV, OR and "Fluff"

This article has huge screeds of unsupported technical opinions that get in the way of simple discription. It needs to be boiled down or referenced up. Jmackaerospace (talk) 16:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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First use, invention by Red Palmer 1955, Salvador Dali

I’ve been playing paintball since 1983. I just came across this video of Salvador Dali on the Ed Sullivan Show of January 29, 1961 using an “animal tranquilizer gun” made by Harold “Red” Palmer, of Georgia, to shoot paint capsules onto canvas. The marker appears to be a CAP-CHUR brand Short Range Pistol Type Projector model using a paint-filled aero syringe. We may need a better source.

Getty Image with caption

YouTube Ed Sullivan show Jan.29, 1961

Red Palmer article (paywall)

user:JohnVR4 IP signed 72.238.86.168 (talk) 14:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)