Talk:Paraiyar

Subdivision origin

Another reason for groupism came from the profession followed by the differnt groups. As people changed professions, they also had to change names to reflect those professions. However they needed to differentiate themselves from people who were already using those professional names. So as people took up farming they had to call themselves Vellala. However since other groups were using Vellala as title, different groups with additional names were created. Thus were created the various groups of Vellala.

Lathead 9:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Use of word Untouchable

Hi Editors, Untouchability is abolished by Constitution of India. Calling a particular section of people as Untouchable is a criminal offence. The concept untouchability itself has various dimensions and view points. The word untouchability not exists in Tamil culture and it is a practice of Vedic Brahminic culture. Vedic brahminic culture was spreaded by Aryan invaders around 1500 BCE. Aryans came to India through khyber and Polan pass around 1500 BCE. Before that there is no caste hierarchial divisions. The Invading Aryan race created divisions among the indigeneous people to reduce the strength and to win their culture.So please be careful while using the word "Untouchable" because it is only a view point from Hindutva Brahminsim and in Tamil culture there is no caste differences. Even many Tamil literatures will clearly indicates this.--JohnPhilipsDM (talk) 11:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

• Support. Aryans and Dravidians are different races and we cant consider only one view point. There are two view points about caste hierarchy.One is Hindutva brahminic view point and the other one is Dravidian view point.--DanielZinker (talk) 12:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Aryan Invasion Theory

Please read Aryan invasion theory concepts to understand the evolution of caste hierarchy in India. The present day caste system was founded by Aryans (Brahmins) and there existed no differences among indigeneous people before Aryan Invasion.--DanielZinker (talk) 12:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Looks like you failed to read the sources on that page. Caste system in Tamil Nadu pre-dates Brahmin migration according to genetic studies.

• First caste-like hierarchy came into place with onset of Agricultural migrations.
• Second caste-like hierarchy was through "elite recruitment" by Brahmin priests.

Differentiation of Southern Indian Male Lineages Correlates with Agricultural Expansions Predating the Caste System, see also Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia 117.192.215.205 (talk) 05:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

relation to Dalit

Is this a region specific Dalit cast? does the article cover a distinct, subset, blurred border with Dalit? to me and from the content it sounds as a group that happened to be Dalit; please correct me if I'm mistaken.--Uwe a (talk) 01:06, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

The answer to the first question is yes. I don't understand the second question. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 02:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2019

2409:4072:6303:BED6:0:0:1510:68AC (talk) 05:09, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 06:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2022

Iyothee Thass is not a pariayar elite as mentioned. Bergunder's article equates elite to social advancement due to the aid of english colonization which waned due to brahamnisim (pg.67. Contested past). Mentioning Iyothee thass as elite without contextualising it is dangerous and gives rise to the assumption that there are elites within Dalits. Mazhaipoo (talk) 09:06, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 3mi1y (talk) 21:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)