Talk:Patmos

Map

A map is needed of the island, meeting Wikipedia's copyright standards. Student7 14:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

A map of the island or a map showing the location of the island? ^{El Greco (talk · contribs)} 21:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I had thought a map of the island. I have to admit that the map showing where the island is, is a bit cryptic to outsiders not familiar with the area, but map of the island is what I had in mind. Now that I think of it, local maps aren't very often provided. What do you think? Student7 22:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion: Let's add an 'Eschatology' section

I propose that an Eschatology section be added, since Patmos can be referred to as origin place of the "Book of Revelation", which book is also referred to by some as "The Apocalypse of St. John the Divine" (why, I don't know as the opening words say "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" and that is the real title of the book.

Anyway, here is at least one reference:

"The Revelation Record" by Henry M. Morris ©1985; Tyndale House Inc. and Creation Life Publishers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MurderWatcher1 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Saint Christobulus ?

The 2nd paragraph of this article mentions the founder of the monastery as 'Saint Christobulus' whereas the 'History' section reports the same under the name of 'Osios [i.e. Saint] Christodoulos. The latter definitely seems righter to me but since the former comes from a reference, I can't correct this outright and have no easy access to the reference cited. The vowels difference may just be a transliteration/latinization issue but 'b' vs. 'd' is a more serious difference. I'd be happy if someone can check and unify the two appearances of the obviously same historical person. Thanks Clpda (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

No reference but agree about apparent latinization. The latter is definitely Greek and is the one used nowdays whatever was used in the past. Student7 (talk) 23:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Refugee biz

This sounds like a two-day story on a slow day and not a great encyclopedia article. It would be of much more interest to find out HOW local Greeks can refuse anyone landing. This is normally a function of central government. What does the municipality have to do with illegal entry? Student7 (talk) 02:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Nation of Islam

Should there be a section for the wider mythologies surrounding the island? Fard Mohammad of the NOI said that an evil black scientist name of Yacub used Patmos millenia ago to successively breed white people and then unleash them onto Europe. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qY9Igv12EVEC Eugene-elgato (talk) 22:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

"Wider" mythologies? You mean "total nonsense"? I don't think the article needs that IMO.Student7 (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

It may be "total nonsense" if you don't believe in the truth of it, but this is an encyclopedia, and it is not total nonsense that NOI, or at least its founders, believed that. I don't actually care one way or the other, I'm just saying it might be something that could be included Eugene-elgato (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I think it would benefit the article to have something about the Nation of Islam's beliefs. Agree with Eugene. 203.0.238.42 (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Source is not WP:RELY. Nation of Islam founded in the 20th century. Patmos history is well before that. There is no reason to believe that the Nation of Islam would have "discovered" something that no other serious researcher had missed. Notice that this "important" discovery is not in the Nation of Islam article. As far as saying that Patmos is in a rap song, or story or myth, I am not really enthused about that either, though some articles have that. It is distracting IMO. And some of the editors may realize that. It seems to be "raining on the parade" of legitimate, WP:RELY information. Student7 (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

mythologies wild or not are all total nonsense. just because lots of people like the stories about two brothers being raised by a wolf and starting a city, or a human son of god killing a woman with snakes for hair, or some guy making a boat and getting 2 of every animal on board so they can survive a flood, doesn't mean they are more sensical than the yakub using "grafting"... ok wait "grafting" doesn't even mean that, so technically this argument is wrong; the mooslim story is wronger because it doesn't even know the meaning of the words it uses, but that's a minor difference. those ancient stories are still a load of hooey with no substantial factual basis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.130.93 (talk) 19:14, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

6th century

"Muslim raids in the 6th century" are mentioned. This seems a little early. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.38.222 (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out that paradox! No Muslims in the 6th century! Every ref I came across said 6th century nevertheless! All copying each other. We clearly need a reliable ref here which I have requested. In the meantime, I changed it to "7th" century, which may be wrong too, but at least not impossible!  :) Student7 (talk) 13:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Untitled

I have been going to Patmos for 15 years, I have a house there, and several years ago I lived there all year round. Hora is not "simply called Patmos"

Ever.

I have removed it.

Regards

The view that the John of Revelation is John the Apostle has virtually no support among biblical scholars. The article suggests that only a few scholars doubt this identification. Quite the opposite.Tbone810 (talk) 18:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Looks okay to me. Uses John of Patmos which is a neutral term. Says that early tradition thought the apostle and Patmos-dweller were one and the same, which is true. But doesn't overemphasize this IMO. Student7 (talk) 14:07, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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