Talk:Pea

Cleaned up small side note on dou miao

Dou maio is not the pea sprout. A sprout is something that grows out of the seed; before it really becomes a full grown plant. It's not a sprout if it's a full grown plant. Dou miao is the tips of new growth off of an adult plant. It is the new shoots. People collect the tips and keep doing so through the growing season. So, I fixed that. 192.33.240.95 (talk) 16:53, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Size?

I don't see anything in the article about the typical size of a pea. There is a statement that they weigh .10 to .36 grams, but nothing on the actual size (diameter) of a pea. 67.220.9.132 (talk) 20:01, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Peas being fruit

Peas aren't fruits. They are seeds. The fruit is the peapod, which was originally an ovary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.132.176 (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

That's a good point actually. The pea's shell might be a fruit. The pea itself isn't. 192.33.240.95 (talk) 16:54, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Photo request

A photo of a pea plant would be very nice here. AxelBoldt 04:50, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Request

The fact that peas are a fruit should be mentioned.

Done, but I made sure to keep the fact that they're a culinary vegetable. Trimethylxanthine 01:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Request

How about some nutritional information on peas ?

I'm looking for allergies of peas...

Peas (Pisum sativum) do not have any reported major allergen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.234.97.118 (talk) 22:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Reseeding Reference

This page contains the information that peas should be planted once every four years, but I don't know how to set up the reference section in the article. If someone could do that, that'd be great.

Done! (It's easy enough to do... just surround the URL with single brackets). SB Johnny 20:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Strange take on economics

"In Chinese cuisine, pea sprouts (豆苗 dou miao) are commonly used in stir-fries and its price is relatively high due to its agreeable taste."

This doesn't sound like a very good reasoning for the 'relatively high' price of peas.Jimjamjak 13:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

That does sound weird. Also, it's kind of incorrect. The reason that dou miao is expensive is for two main reasons. 1) It has to be collected by hand, and it is not collected by machine, because it is the tips only, of the plant. 2) The new leaves and stem are delicate and bruise easily and rot quickly. It's tough to transport them and have them keep fresh, relative to peas which freeze well. The leaves and stem of new growth doesn't freeze well; the cell walls in the leaves break when you freeze it so they become soggy when frozen. They dry sort of ok, but don't rehydrate well and there's not a lot you can do with it dry. It's a bit like baby spinach. It's also got problems with sudden frosts in the springtime.

So...the cost comes from fragility of the new growth, and also because it is a pain in the neck to harvest. 192.33.240.95 (talk) 17:00, 17 February 2012 (UTC) I dont like peas, so it doesnt cost me anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.199.172 (talk) 10:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

merge of Sugar snap pea

Someone should put a {{merge from|sugar snap pea}} on this to get the sugar snap pea included in this article. As I understand it they're grown in much the same way and since they're the same type of plant it makes sense to include it here rather than continuing to have its own article stub.

Can I just make Sugar snap pea redirect to Snap pea (which already mentions the Sugar Snap)? There doesn't seem to be any content at Sugar snap pea which needs merging. Kingdon 21:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hearing no objection, I have done this. Kingdon 21:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Request

I miss some information about the producing regions of peas.

Toxicity of raw peas

Does the consumption of raw peas pose any dangers (as with the lectins found in the raw common bean)? Badagnani (talk) 08:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a doctor or anything but it doesn't sound like it causes any really major problems (but I tend to veg cooked until water changes colour, because it improves bioavailability of nutrients by breaking down the cell wall as well as reducing lectins): [1]- (User) WolfKeeper (Talk) 14:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think raw pea harms Dipakskit (talk) 03:05, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

In contrast to beans, some raw peas do not contain lectin and are save to eat raw. However this is not true of all peas or produce we call peas. Lectin in food so a warning is apt.Theking2 (talk) 11:03, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Contradiction

"Both of these are eaten whole and are therefore known as 'mange tout.' Both are eaten before the pod reaches maturity. In the snow pea (often erroneously called 'mange tout') the pod is eaten flat."

The first "both" refers to snow peas and sugar snap peas, so it implies that snow peas are known as "mange tout." However, two sentences later we are told that calling snow peas "mange tout" is erroneous. Which is true?

69.146.162.225 (talk) 20:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Bump. I see no cite for the "erroneous" label, so I'm going to dike that out and note that the French name can apply to both. (FWIW, fr-wiki describes a mangetout as "un haricot contenant des petits pois dont on mange la cosse verte avec le grain", which can be either.) Jpatokal (talk) 01:15, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Mushy peas

Mushy peas have nothing to do with guacamole and while there may be obscure references in british culture, they do not deserve mention in an encyclopedia article about either guacamole or peas. Similarly, guacamole should not be mentioned in the article on peas. I have removed the following section from guacamole and am parking it here in good faith. Please don't return it to either article without consensus.

Mushy Peas

Differentiating between guacamole and mushy peas, which have a similar appearance, is considered to be a significant class distinction in Britain. In an apocryphal story Labour Party minister Peter Mandelson was said to have committed a faux pas when he mistook the two in a fish and chip shop in his constituency of Hartlepool. The Labour Party was subsequently thought to have successfully merged these middle class and working class tastes but the metaphor was used to indicate that they no longer did so. Recapturing this recipe is held to be essential to their success.

This has been cross-posted from talk:guacamole. Toddst1 (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Mushy peas have become somewhat emblematic of British cuisine, but I'd have a hard time figuring out how to write about it in an encyclopedic way (the requisite tongue in cheek style doesn't really work here). The comparison with guacamole, though it seems to be referenced in sources, seems even more obscure/forced/short-lived. Kingdon (talk) 23:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

References

Request

As the article redirects here from 'petit pois' I feel they should have a mention of some sort. Yellowlolly (talk) 22:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a source which discusses these peas, how they are used in cooking, etc? There is a wiktionary entry at wiktionary:petit pois (I don't know whether it would be a good idea to link to that somehow). Ideally we'd have a much more extensive discussion of peas in lots of different cuisines, and the lack of that is making it a bit harder to figure out where to put things like petit pois. Welcome to wikipedia, and sorry that the first issue you raised seems to be somewhat thorny, rather than something more straightforward. Kingdon (talk) 13:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Swedish pea soup

I want to point out that the word “ärtsoppa”is Swedish. But the longer version of the name contains a gramatical error: it should be “ärtsoppa med fläsk” (“pea soup with pork”) instead of “ärtsoppa och fläsk” (“pea soup and pork”). The article on pea soup lists the names in the other Nordic languages. However, the name in Danish seams to mean “yellow peas” instead of “pea soup”.

2009-02-11 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Beans

Are peas beans ? If so, clarify article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.185.158 (talk) 14:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

They are different species. The word “pea” may refer to this plant or to its seeds. More loosely it can also mean the chickpea plant or its seeds. The word “bean” may refer to the common bean plant, the closely related Lima bean and runner bean plants, the more distantly related mung bean plant, or to their seeds. It may also refer to the seeds from soy. Related plants of similar use are the peanut and lentil plants. This is how they are related:

¤ Family of leguminous plants (Fabaceae)
¤ Genus of beans (Phaseolus)
¤ The species common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris)
¤ The species lima bean (Phaseolus lunatus)
¤ The species runner bean (Phaseolus coccineus)
¤ Genus of chickpeas (Cicer)
¤ The species chickpea (Cicer arietinum)
¤ Genus of lentils (Lens)
¤ The species lentil (Lens culinaris)
¤ Genus of Vigna
¤ The species mung bean (Vigna radiata)
¤ Genus of peas (Pisum)
¤ The species pea (Pisum sativum)
¤ Genus of peanuts (Arachis)
¤ The species peanut (Arachis hypogaea)
¤ Genus of glycine plants (Glycine)
¤ The species soy (Glycine max)

The genus of Vigna appear to have no English name. (In Swedish it is are called “vignabönsläktet” which literary means “the Vigna bean genus”) Please note that the family of leguminous plants includes many more plants such as the liquorice plant, clovers and acacias.

2009-03-21 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Culinary Use query- Dried/raw?

In the introduction to this section it states that we used to store peas dry and now we cook them. Surely whether we stored them dry or not, we still cooked them before eating them? Are you really saying people ate dried peas raw? Do we know anything more about this, it surprises me. IceDragon64 (talk) 01:25, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Peas can be eaten raw (see, for example, this recipe). --4wajzkd02 (talk) 01:38, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• No, thats young mange tout, not old dried peas, as the article might imply

IceDragon64 (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Peas as a use for soapmaking?

I would like to know if the statement is true, and if there is some research made already (I heard this from a children's program I watched:

"Peas have saponin in them, which is one of the main ingreidients in making soap."

The one thing that I will want to question also is if extracting saponin from this plant is done commercially, and if there is such thing as pea soap. Anyone willing to do?130.65.109.104 (talk) 21:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Peascod

Peascod is redirected here, but the article does not mention it. What is peascod (or peascods)? I found the sentence "Your eyes are like peascods" in the 1959 novel Eating People is Wrong by Malcolm Bradbury, and wondered what they are. HairyWombat 22:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

My understanding (although unreferenced at present) is that it is an old word for Pea pod and also used to describe other things that open like a pea-pod with a seam along the unopened edge - as for example in some forms of armour such as breastplates that hinged at the front.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   22:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

This seems wrong. "Your eyes look like pea pods" doesn't make any sense, however, as it was said by a young woman biting the narrator's leg at a student party, it is possible it was not meant to make sense. HairyWombat 07:23, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

J'ay pois en cosse touz noviaux

Interesting, but it begs a question. What does it mean? "I have all new Scottish peas"? --Elliskev 21:14, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

-- From what I was able to discern via a ROUGH Google Translation, "I pod peas in Touz Noviaux", if the above poster is right with 'cosse' referencing the Scots, I was unable to find anything beyond "écossais" as a translation. --Devon 10:12, 23 June 2014 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.164.3.140 (talk)

Harvesting

There needs to be a section on how peas are harvested. What, if any, machines are used, for example. --HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

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Scientific Name

When did the scientific name change from Pisum sativum to Lathyrus oleraceus? Tajjc (talk) 01:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

It derives from a 2012 paper (right now ref. 2) which showed that the genus Pisum is embedded within Lathyrus. There needs to be a Taxonomy section with an explanation and discussion of this. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)