Talk:Pearlasia Gamboa

The Ruse That Roared, Washington Post

I had included a link to the text of TRTR in the article, but I removed it as it was hosted on the Dominion of Melchizedek's site and had been altered by them. Much, but not all, of it is reproduced on the Quatloos page on DoM; that can be treated as reliable. For information only, I include the unreliable source link to the archived copy from the DoM site. Bromley86 (talk) 12:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Whitewash massive content and source removal

Why was most of the source based content deleted[1] by Bromley86? Most of the content from the following sources was deleted, and many of the sources themselves were deleted.

• Sacramento Bee
• Washington Post 1996
• Cbsnews.com
• United States Securities and Exchange Commission. June 12, 2009.
• Courthouse News Service
• Asia Times Feb 17, 2000.
• SF Weekly.
• RAI News
• La Repoublica (15 May 2002)
• Metropolitan Trial Court of Manila, Judge Juliet Manalo-San Gaspar
• Fiji Live
• New Straights Times
• The Indianapolis Star
• Asia Times (February 5, 2000)
• United States Attorney's Office, Southern District of Florida.
• Federal Bureau of Investigation press release
• Washington Post December 17, 2010
• CNBC
• Presentation of Mr. John Shockey, Former Special Assistant, U.S. Comptroller of the Currency, to the 4th International Financial Fraud Convention in London, May 27, 1999

All mention of her BankAsia AG was removed. Why? The supposed husband current legal name, "Tzemach David Netzer Korem", and r3ecently most used name in sources, David Korem, as appearing in multiple recent fraud suits and FBI and SEC litigation releases, was changed to his former name of many years ago. Why? Other family members, like son Hazemach, sourced by SF SFWeekly, were removed. Why? Even the talk page was moved to an archive to be less visible. Why?

• Why has Bromley86 spent so much time removing content and information with negative information on members of this criminal organization (and removing positive info on victims)? It belies any attempt at WP:AGF. Is there a COI? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.247.76.51 (talk) 21:56, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

• COI. I live in Britain and have never been to California. I'd never heard of Gamboa before I bumped into the puff piece on Eric Diesel, after it was mentioned on WP:RSN. So no conflict of interest. Can the same be said about an IP editor that, judging from it's edit history, is likely Eric Diesel himself? So I find the accusation of WP:COI a little rich. Assuming you are Diesel, it'd be nice if you could set up a single account and stick with it.
• Many of the sources only make tangential mention of Gamboa, mainly dealing with her husband's antics (e.g. the FBI one,[2] which makes no mention of Gamboa). Feel free to point to one that you think makes a point about her.
• In what context would you like BankAsia added back? It is actually still there, under Career "companies run by Gamboa, and which were purporting to be banks", just not mentioned by name. Does the name add anything?
• Hazemach was removed by someone else before me (see archive). I've no real problem with adding him back in, although it's a shame that the SF Weekly source apparently didn't give a complete summary of her family situation (going by earlier versions of this WP entry). I.e. adding Hazemach, but not her other children, seems less accurate to me than making no mention of her children at all. As I said though, no problem with adding him. I do have a problem with adding him in in a manner not given in the source (i.e. with a list of aliases). Actually, having looked at one of the versions from a few years ago[3], I see we have what looks like a reliable source for an earlier marriage and her daughter,[4] so I'll add that detail. Still looking for a source for that apparent other son, Raymond.
• Archiving is a normal procedure.
• As to my motivation, I took exception to someone using WP to promote themselves and attack another. It's hardly a whitewash when everything retained in the article is negative, but everything retained in the article specifically relates to her, as opposed to the unsupported accusations that it used to contain. Bromley86 (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Belated add, but I see from the 2 August 2014 activity on this revision history log that 50.247.76.51 and FloraWilde are one and the same. FloraWilde was heavily involved in maintaining the puff in the Eric Diesel article. Bromley86 (talk) 09:43, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Birth year

I don't think it's quite synthesis to deduce that her birthday falls in June 1951 or July 1951. We have a source that says she's 57 on 11 June 2009 (actually, the source is dated 15 June 2009, but the court doc it links to (not used in the article because of WP:BLPPRIMARY is dated 11 June),[5] so she was born 12 June 1951 - 11 June 1952. We then have another source that says she's 60 on 6 July 2011,[6] so she was born 5 July 1950 - 6 July 1951. Putting the two together, she was born in 1951. Bromley86 (talk) 09:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

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