Talk:Phil Jones (footballer, born 1992)

Manchester United

He now plays for Machester United — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.6.221.10 (talk) 15:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you provide a reliable source to confirm that he has actually signed? Everything I've read says that he is "set" to move, see here. doomgaze (talk) 16:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

The chinese version of the united website has confirmed it. http://www.manunited.com.cn/zh-cn/NewsAndFeatures/FootballNews/2011/Jun/Reds-announce-Jones-deal.aspx.

Roughly translated: "Manchester United has confirmed signing defender Phil Jones from Blackburn.

Phil Jones becomes United's first summer signing in 2011.

The club made an official announcement confirming the transfer on Jun 8:

"Manchester United are pleased to announce coming to an agreement with Blackburn. Phil Jones has signed a 5 year deal, the transfer fee is undisclosed.

The player has agreed personal terms and passed a medical in Manchester today.

Some other stuff about his appearance record for Blackburn and playing for England U21 in Denmark." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.224.98 (talk) 19:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure? I just get a "page not found" message. None of the UK sources have confirmed it, not even a The Guardian article published 15 mins ago: [1]. doomgaze (talk) 21:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

who is taylor

"International career Taylor had represented the England Under-19 making his debut in the 3–1 win over Turkey on the 17 November 2009." who is taylor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.254.46.254 (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Good catch. The article was subject to a lot of vandalism for a few weeks and it appears some edits went through undetected. I have restored the article to a previous version that was much more informative. doomgaze (talk) 17:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from DonaldFranks, 10 June 2011

Current Club: Manchester United DonaldFranks (talk) 09:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 Not done Do you have a reliable source to confirm this? doomgaze (talk) 09:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 77.95.164.236, 14 June 2011

It was June 13 2011, Manchester United confirmed the deal, not July. 77.95.164.236 (talk) 00:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done. doomgaze (talk) 00:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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Blackburn Career

This is a bit of a mess and doesn't make a lot of sense (especially the bit about West Ham. Surely there should be mention of an injury in there? Besides, does it really need to be so long with details of games where he played 90 minutes? How many it is cut down and only lists debut's, and important games? Heywoodg 12:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I have cleaned it up a bit. Heywoodg 10:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

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phil jones not only play as Defender he can also play as midfielder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.78.17.169 (talk) 05:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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phil jones not only play as defender he can also play at midfield....From Jazli Long — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.78.17.169 (talk) 05:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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Phil is not 1.80 http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DY91AE/munich-germany-09th-apr-2014-manchesters-team-with-goal-keeper-david-DY91AE.jpg http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/manchester-united-team-group-daley-blind-luke-shaw-zlatan-ibrahimovic-picture-id625628648 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Lyon (talk • contribs) 17:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't see a measuring tape in that picture. – PeeJay 18:55, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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International Career

His international career is obviously over. He hasn't played for England for well over 3 years, nor has he been in a squad, he doesn't even play all, why do people insist on saying he's still an England player? Is there some Wikipedia policy on this that I'm missing? Some number of years that he has to not play?

Ashley Young hasn't played for England in the same time, he's not listed as an England player and is on record saying he will never retire from England duty. David Nugent never announced his retirement, why isn't he listed as an England player? Rambo Apocalypse (talk) 01:49, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 18 May 2023

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Phil Jones (footballer, born 1992) → Phil Jones (footballer) – Easily the best known Phil Jones, never mind best known footballer called Phil Jones. The Optimistic One (talk) 16:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:PDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 18:57, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - I think he is already at the correct title. Although he may currently be the primary footballer at this moment, it is rarely seen that Wikipedia has more than one footballer of the same name and one of them has just the "footballer" identifier. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
• Support - Agree with nominator. Definitely much better known than Phil Jones (footballer, born 1961). – PeeJay 10:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - Wikipedia currently has articles on five footballers called Phil/Philip Jones (one rugby, two soccer, and two "American football") - see Philip Jones. Not asking people to disambiguate is a recipe for problems later; problems easily avoided by applying foresight now.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

  Rugby players and American football players aren’t “footballers”, so those are irrelevant. – PeeJay 11:20, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

  In your opinion.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

  I think PeeJay is right here instead of this being an opinion - per discussion on the Talk:Kevin Long (footballer)#Requested move 11 February 2023 section, a couple of participating users who are also participating here say, in similar words/phrases, that American football players are not referred to as 'footballers'. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 18:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose as above. GiantSnowman 18:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose no such thing as WP:PRIMARYFOOTBALLER In ictu oculi (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per 162 etc., Iggy, Toddy1, GiantSnowman and In ictu oculi. The proposed header Phil Jones (footballer) is indeed incomplete disambiguation. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2023

Phil Jones was a former professional footballer, who most recently played for Premier League club; Manchester United. Phil Jones retired after the 22-23 season at United. 79.68.143.239 (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cocobb8 (💬 talk to me! • ✏️ my contributions) 21:59, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

What the IP editor wanted was a change to the lead, and he/she suggested a wording. But I do not see any reliable sources saying that Jones has retired from football.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)