Talk:Photovoltaic power station/GA4
GA Reassessment
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Obviously a lot of good stuff has happened in the world since this article became good in 2013, so to keep it up to the good standard of being broad in coverage but summary style I suggest the following:
Check existing article and list below against Solar power to avoid either gaps or duplication and consider moving some info - for example perhaps some of the "environmental impacts" such as "energy payback" and "land use" should be moved here
Consider replacing the history section with an excerpt of Growth of photovoltaics
Consider replacing the geography section with an excerpt of Solar power by country
Mention Floating solar perhaps by excerpting
Summarize how these power stations influence and are perhaps influenced by fossil fuel phase out, climate change mitigation and energy transition
Summarize how these power stations interact with wind, hydro, nuclear linking in more detailed articles such as Hybrid power as appropriate
Summarize relationship with battery power stations perhaps mentioning duck curve - should add the distinction between dc and ac-coupled battery systems PVKamikaze 23:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Relationship with rooftop solar? - perhaps use Australia as an example
Long distance transmission e.g. Morocco export to UK + Europe well via HVDC --> Desertec PVKamikaze 23:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps mention VALCOE
Perhaps add a little on government policy - for example local content requirements, panel import tariffs
About 40 "Noteworthy solar parks" are listed but not all have Wikipedia articles. Suggest either list is shortened to the most noteworthy or deleted altogether with the most noteworthy dicussed in the text
Some tags need fixing
Chidgk1 (talk) 14:19, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Are you just looking for a re-assessment as to whether this is still a GA or do you want someone to go and fix some of the issues you've mentioned above? VR talk 15:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Vice regent Thanks for quick reply. Happy also to have your re-assessment comments, but mainly am hoping people will fix it as obviously it is a very important subject. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll try to fix things.VR talk 21:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Vice regent Thanks for quick reply. Happy also to have your re-assessment comments, but mainly am hoping people will fix it as obviously it is a very important subject. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm more than happy to add additional comments and clarification as well PVKamikaze 23:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks - if I remember right re Morocco UK there is a newer company than Desertec - also maybe Australia Singapore - perhaps you can sıummarize the general principle in the article so as not to get too country specific. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with the suggestions. A lot of the current content is notable and should be kept, albeit with newer sources. Projects should only be included if construction has started. TGCP (talk) 18:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Vice regent thanks for making a start TGCP PVKamikaze I hope you are well - are you able to edit in some improvements now? Chidgk1 (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Vice regent TGCP PVKamikaze If you are not likely to work on this soon I am going to delist it in a day or 2 - which would be a pity for such an important subject Chidgk1 (talk) 13:22, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for my late response. I was planning to work on it over the holidays. Darn work got pretty busy over the last month ;) Many solar-farms in the work for the US East coast and a few in Canada. Nice greetings from Canada PVKamikaze 17:10, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- In what section should I add content on long-distance transmission of solar energy, say from Sahara to Europe? VR talk 13:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe "Economics and finance" as maybe they balance the increased sales to new customers with the cost of installing transmission and transmission losses. Or maybe "power delivery". Just guessing - your decision. https://www.economist.com/business/2021/10/11/the-booming-business-of-knitting-together-the-worlds-electricity-grids Chidgk1 (talk) 17:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Actually maybe you can find a better cite which is more accessible as the examples in the Economist article above are mainly wind. Talking of speculative possibilities they mention:
- Maybe "Economics and finance" as maybe they balance the increased sales to new customers with the cost of installing transmission and transmission losses. Or maybe "power delivery". Just guessing - your decision. https://www.economist.com/business/2021/10/11/the-booming-business-of-knitting-together-the-worlds-electricity-grids Chidgk1 (talk) 17:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
".... a 3,800km cable linking the sun-baked solar fields of Morocco with Britain. Another consortium wants to link Australia, Indonesia and Singapore, a 4,200km project." Chidgk1 (talk) 07:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm too busy now. The rapid development in technology and economy of large solar power stations means, in my view, that the article cannot become stable and therefore not generally a Good Article anytime soon. That's okay, it's still a good article, it's just not a Good Article. But if editors can maintain a steady upkeep I won't go against a GA nomination. TGCP (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- You are right that things are changing - for the good in my opinion. But not as fast as a breaking news story. I think a way to avoid the need for such frequent updates would be to remove some of the excess detail from the article and write in more summary style. For example the table of auction prices could be condensed to one row per year with some kind of average or range for the year. Thus the table would only need updating once a year. And (if the country articles are sufficient quality) the country subsections could be replaced by excerpts, or indeed removed entirely if not significant e.g. solar in UK. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to those who have updated the article but I am delisting as there are obviously not enough people working on it Chidgk1 (talk) 17:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)