Talk:Pirated movie release types

Untitled 1

Someone should add 1080i/720p releases under HDTV rips.

Indeed --84.249.253.201 15:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Untitled 2

If a movie is released in Bluray, Bluray will always take priority over dvdrips. the page should reflect this. CAM has also died out, the only time a cam release is ever pred is when it's done by someone from p2p — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.217.144.201 (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

CAM is not dead, just look on the net. 178.38.154.88 (talk) 18:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Table order

Is there any reason why BDRips are on top of DVDRips, when its ranging from Lowest to highest Quality? Surely BDRips are higher quality than DVDRips? 88.108.87.226 (talk) 14:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

R3 Releases

R3 Releases please comment more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.204.92 (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

R3 is a region 3 disc release. Posthxc1982 (talk) 05:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

{{originalresearch}}

Much of this article appears to be be OR(personal experience) and in violation of our no original research policies. Can we get some sources for this article? Without sources I'm afraid there won't be much of the article left if it's brought into line with policy. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Sources American Pie + Images

Can someone add sources for the American Pie stuff? According to [1] a picture was taken from the DVD extras. Can someone verify if they mention/explain the workprint in those extras?

I think new images should be added to this article for illustration. Has someone the old images? Otherwise we should take new ones.--Ondertitel (talk) 16:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

R6 release type should be introduced

A new release type is becoming more and more popular, it is R6, basically the same as R5 but coming from China (region 6).

Sources

Hey, i dont know if these sites are reliable or not but after a quick search across google i've found

• http://www.tv-show-movie-downloads.com/Movie-Release-Formats.html, http://www.torrent-invites.com/tutorials/45280-pirated-movie-release-types.html, http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/2741796, http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/02/end-of-stage6-joox-and-high-quality.html, http://www.thebangkokshoppingguide.com/pirated-movies-bangkok, http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/ink-producer-responds-to-piracy-colea.php, http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10213766-93.html, http://www.mpaa.org/contentprotection/types-of-content-theft, http://mediakey.dk/~cc/video-quality-terms-workprint-cam-screeners-telesync-and-telecine/, http://alpha-beta-tricks.blogspot.com/2009/05/all-movie-tags-camtelesynctelecinescree.html, http://www.dslreports.com/faq/4178, http://faq.programmerworld.net/misc/all-about-movie-tags.html, http://www.premiumtrick.com/2008/12/what-are-r5-r3-dvd-screenerdvdscr.html, http://tamnn.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/cam-r5-dvdrip-dvdscr-xvid-telesync/, http://everything2.com/title/Pirated+movie+types

• http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/internet-piracy-crackdown-by-us-studios-1913673.html, http://moviecitynews.com/2010/09/aurora-cinestreem-launches-the-premiere-anti-piracy-device-to-stream-content/, http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?cat=101, http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE50T0T920090130, http://extratorrent.com/article/707/anti+piracy+group+took+down+wrong+videos.html, http://alan.blog-city.com/moviepiracy.htm, http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCR/is_4_41/ai_n27484194/pg_2/, http://www.enotes.com/internet-piracy-article, http://screenrant.com/movie-piracy-zombieland-video-on-demand-digital-download-solutions-kofi-35289/

and i think at least some of them are good reliable sources which can be used to aid the article and make it more encyclopaedic. I personallty think this is a fantastic concept to cover for the site (although personal opinions do not matter), and i hope these sites help :D (the top ones are more suited to this page while the bottom ones are more suited to the Piracy page)--Coin945 (talk) 20:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Just films??

Also i was wondering if the article should be expanded to include all types of piracy releases, such as Taper (concert) and Bootleg recording in general. There are numerous sutes on "types" of piracy releases with some explaining forms either not expressed in the film piracy circuit, or that have varying definitions regarding the form of media. A few sources i have hastily grabbed together are: http://www.soc.duke.edu/~s142tm01/piracyfaq.html, http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=39412&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html, http://www.scribd.com/doc/33216744/Types-of-Piracy--Coin945 (talk) 20:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the bootleg recording article is a more appropriate place to discuss bootleg audio types, which is different from the type of audio piracy that most people refer to. It's a different scene and doesn't really relate to the content here. (Though a mention and see also link may be appropriate.) There're a lot more types of piracy (as it applies to internet file sharing), including books, software/games, fonts, etc. and many of these have their own set of terminology and classification systems. If we tried to include them all, then this article would become too big and too broad.--173.60.71.168 (talk) 18:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest that this article is actually about Pirated Video Release Types. 'Film' often refers to feature-length films, but this article discusses and is relevant to television show episodes and other video media. Further, by definition all media referred to in this article is digital 'video'; the word 'film' has recently come to refer to legacy, analog media.

Maybe this comment should be a separate topic, but I do not share the concern about notability currently showing in the header. I think this page is notable and relevant as a list. I think this article is analogous to the example in the notability guide: "Web content that does not qualify for a separate, stand-alone article might be described in a relevant list of web content like the List of internet phenomena."... The various formats in this list have varying notability, but the list itself is notable. 45.3.16.173 (talk) 03:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

DiGiRiP

I've started to encounter the DiGiRiP label which seems to be the same as DSR etc. (e.g. DirecTivo). Don't know if it's common enough to be included though. -94.193.242.248 (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC) i have seen these as well 173.218.235.179 (talk) 02:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

PROPER

there should be some discussion of the definition of a PROPER as well deathwithaifreinside (talk) 20:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

from wiki Proper (often capitalized PROPER), a corrected release in response to a previously released online video or movie that contains transcoding or other playback errors. deathwithaifreinside (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

R6

What's this 'R6' ? Yosichen (talk) 03:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

R6 is an abbreviation for: Region 6, the DVD region code for People's Republic of China, Hong Kong, North Korea --Ondertitel (talk) 09:36, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

some inaccuracies

While doing a search in the T-I's forums, I realized that there are several threads regarding this particular subject so I will try to add to it instead of creating a new one. You may search the other threads and merge the information.

Good work on the draft. However, there are some inaccuracies. I'll try to explain as clear as possible. Hopefully this helps.

Introduction first. The Scene Rules are the minimum standards set by large release groups committee to ensure the quality of the releases. There are different standards set by different groups for each main category like 0DAY, ANiME, DVDR, MP3, etc. For the purpose of the topic of the original poster. I'll focus on the video categories.

Tags: For the proper identification of the releases, tags are used. The tags presented in this thread are SOURCE tags so I will leave other special tags for another thread or simply let me know and I will create one for other type of releases. Also, most of the tags should be CAPITALIZED with some exceptions like the word "Rip".

Special considerations for my description: - It is relevant to note that in this topic tags from more than one category were added. So for clarity, I will list tags separately according to each standard.

Hope you find this information helpful.

The source of this information is straight from the the Scene Rules Standards NFOs.

DVDR Release Standards Tags (2007)

Source Notes: These are releases of superior/remastered edtiions of previous released DVDs.

Naming: MOVIE.TITLE.YEAR.REGION.DVDR-GROUP

Source Tags: Rx.DVDR (x is the region number)

Other Relevant Tags: DISCx: Multiple discs are inside directories labeled DISC1, DISC2, etc. PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws.

HDDVD Release Standards Tags (2007)

Source Notes: Not to be confused with the dead HDDVD format. These are releases from both Blu-Ray and HDDVD. These are encoded in Windows Media 9 Advanced Profile (WVC1) and are known in the scene as WMV-HD which became a popular choice for the ability to play in Xbox 360s. The container is WMV.

Naming: MOVIE.TITLE.YEAR.<BluRay/HDDVD/HDTV>.VC1.<720p/1080p>.5.1.WMV-GROUP

Source Tags: BluRay: Self-explanatory. HDDVD: Self-explanatory. HDTV: Self-explanatory.

Other Relevant Tags: INTERNAL: Required only if one movie has been released in a source format and is available on the other format.

SVCD Release Standards Tags (2002)

Source Notes: DVD Only. DVD Screeners are acceptable.

Naming: Movie.Name.Year.DVDRip.SVCD-Group

Source Tags: DVDRip

Other Relevant Tags: PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws. CDx: Multiple discs must be labeled in each folder. CD1, CD2, and on.

TV XviD Release Standards Tags (2007)

Source Notes: All sources must be 100% digital except for S-Video, composite, or RF from a digital receiver to a tuner card. The container is AVI

Naming: Show.Name.SxxExx.HDTV.Xvid-Group (Series) Show.Name.YYYY.MM.DD.Guest.HDTV.Xvid-Group (Talk shows like David Letterman) Note: Optional Episode Title may be included.

Source Tags: DSR: Digital Stream or Satellite Rip WS.DSR: WIDESCREEN counterpart of the previous tag. PDTV: Pure Digital Television. HQ Digital signal without analog conversion. ATSC is a good example. WS.PDTV: WIDESCREEN counterpart of the previous tag. HDTV: as RonWD mentioned. HDTV are NOT rips from previous copies. This are releases from an High Definition Digital TV signal. They are all Widescreen so WS is redundant. No tag: Analog source will have no tag other than WS if appropriate.

Other Relevant Tags: PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws. CDx: Multiple discs must be labeled in each folder. CD1, CD2, and on. REPACK: Re-release due to packing issues. RERIP: Re-release due to ripping issues. iNTERNAL: (1st lowercase is not a typo) Usually used by groups to avoid dupes. There are trading limitations for this releases.

Other Non-Relevant Tags: REAL, UNCUT, SUBBED, DIRFIX, SAMPLEFIX, NFOFIX, Read.NFO

720p x264 TV Release Standards Tags (2008)

Source Notes: 720p or 1080i. 544p upconvered must have the HR.PDTV tags. Container is MKV

Naming: Show.Name.SxxExx.720p.HDTV.x264-Group (Normal Series) Show.Name.YYYY-MM-DD.720p.HDTV.x264-Group (Talk shows/Sports) Show.Name.PartXX.720p.HDTV.x264-Group (Mini series) Note: Optional Episode Title may be included.

Source Tags: HR.PDTV: Upconverted Pure Digital Television. HQ Digital signal without analog conversion. ATSC is a good example. Must follow HR guidelines. HDTV: as RonWD mentioned. HDTV are NOT rips from previous copies. This are releases from an High Definition Digital TV signal. They are all Widescreen so WS is redundant.

Other Relevant Tags: PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws. REPACK: Re-release due to packing issues. RERIP: Re-release due to ripping issues. INTERNAL: Usually used by groups to avoid dupes. There are trading limitations for this releases.

Other Non-Relevant Tags: REAL, UNCUT, DUBBED, SUBBED

HD Movie x264 720p/1080p rev 2 Release Standards Tags (2008)

Source Notes: 1080p Blu-Ray and HDDVD sources. Container is MKV.

Naming: Movie.Name.Year.<720p/1080p>.<HDDVD/BluRay>.x264.<PROPER/READ.NFO/REPACK>-GROUP

Source Tags: HDVD or BluRay

Other Relevant Tags: PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws. REPACK: Re-release due to packing issues. DVD9: Tag used after YEAR if DVD9 is used for longer movies only.

Other Non-Relevant Tags: READ.NFO

XviD MovieRelease Standards Tags (2005)

Source Notes: 1080p Blu-Ray and HDDVD sources. Container is MKV.

Naming: Movie.Name.Year.<720p/1080p>.<HDDVD/BluRay>.x264.<PROPER/READ.NFO/REPACK>-GROUP

Source Tags: CAM: As described. TC: (TELECINE) As described TS: (TELESYNC) Just an addition, audio is actually obtained from the audio output jack usually for handicapped people. VHS: As described. WP: (WORKPRINT) As described. SCREENER: As described. PVDVD: I believe this might be Previously Viewed but I might be wrong on this one. LDVD: Laser Disc but then again, I am not completely sure about this one either since the original document does not specify. DVDSCR, SCREENER, SCR, DVDSCREENER: Actually it is not a copy of the final product. Screeners are pre-release copies and contain production tickers and watermarks. DVDRip/VHSRip: This is a copy of the released product.

Other Relevant Tags: PROPER: Re-release when the previous one had technical flaws. REPACK: Re-release due to packing issues. DVD9: Tag used after YEAR if DVD9 is used for longer movies only.

Other Non-Relevant Tags: READ.NFO

PAL DVR

I've met this kind of tag. What does it mean? -- Nazar (talk) 07:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

PAL: "is an analogue television colour encoding system used in broadcast television systems in many countries. Other common analogue television systems are NTSC and SECAM.". DVR: Digital video recorder. It's a DVR recording from an analogue PAL source. --Ondertitel (talk) 09:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Then, if the torrent info says: "Source: PAL DVDR + AC3 STUDIO resynced audio (-70ms)", then it means it was shot from the PAL television broadcast? That does not seem very likely for a movie which has just been released in cinemas... Maybe there are other ways to understand these acronyms? Info example here -- Nazar (talk) 12:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

DVR != DVDR. Your example is a (non retail) PAL DVDR screener. It has nothing to do with television broadcasts. --Ondertitel (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I think I nearly got it now :) So, in the example above you say it's a DVDR Screener distributed in a region called the PAL region (just like R5 region, e.g.) That makes some sense. But why does a DVDR screener need a "STUDIO resynced audio"? Doesn't it include a digital quality audio track by default? -- Nazar (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I assume the resync is because the original source was a bit out of sync (-70ms). [2] The STUDIO audio is probably in comparison to R5, which sometimes doesn't include English retail audio. --Ondertitel (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, a PAL region DVDR is not encoded in PAL system, is it? Because PAL system is only for analogue broadcasting, not for digital releases of movies? This naming is a bit confusing, I must say... -- Nazar (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

The PAL/NTSC DVD difference is explained here: DVD_region_code#PAL.2FSECAM_vs._NTSC. --Ondertitel (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, I bow down in thanks for these explanations. You really are a guru :) I think that mention about PAL region and PAL/NTSC DVDs might be good to have in the article. -- Nazar (talk) 19:09, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

WEB-DL

Can somebody please explain what this marker means? I hear differing explanations from multiple sources via search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.12.110.144 (talk) 09:57, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

A rip of a movie that is offered as a digital download on the Internet (i.e. Web-DownLoad).84.31.183.160 (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

A WEB-DL is a repackaged file from iTunes, Amazon or other provider that sells/provides files for people to download for personal archival. Those files are then stripped of DRM and identifying information, then repackaged into a new file container. 192.0.224.196 (talk) 16:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

RC (BluRay)

Someone might want to add information about Region C (RC) releases. They are the BluRay equivalent of an R5 DVD. Also often refered to as a "Russian Copy". Although not as common as R5 releases, they popup every now and then (e.g. SOME.MOViE.2013.RC.BDRip.X264-GROUP). Probably best to include this in the section about R5 releases.84.31.183.160 (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

BRRip =/= BDRip

In the scene/p2p, BRRips are re-encodes of previous rips. BDRips are encodes from a source. BRRips usually have the worst quality for a pirated blu-ray release due to the fact that the release isn't actually taken from a retail source. No respectable internal/scene group uploads rerips.

Also, screeners really aren't that common. Just a thought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.139.207.84 (talk) 18:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Xvid references obsolete

Obviously Xvid is historically important and should be mentioned in that context. However, "Today, Xvid has replaced DivX almost entirely" and the mention in DVD-RIP section are simply obsolete, no one has used Xvid for ages now. himdel (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

No, it is not obsolete. XviD (big D) has completely replaced DivX. It just got replaced itself, by now. By a new generation of codecs. But in the world of DivX-like codecs, XviD has and will always have had replaced DivX. (There is no such thing as a DivX format, btw. It’s just one codec for a kind of MPEG4.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.177.102 (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

BDRip/BRRip?

You say BDRip are directly from disc and often a very high quality and size (ca. 40GB). But check the torrent sites. They are mostly 500-1000 Megabyte and 720p and/or smaller. Somethings not right here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.193.20.226 (talk) 11:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

The BDrip/BRrip distinction and general size is respected in the Scene, but external groups like YIFI just do whatever they see fit, often doing very small, low(er) quality encodes even when basing themselves directly on BD sources, or tagging as BDrips when recoding; they just aren't reliable, but the descripted is still the generally comprehended meaning of the tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.152.162.94 (talk) 22:33, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Bluray Remux

....is getting a little more common, isn' it? Gotjazz84 (talk) 18:01, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

It is, has been for awhile, actually. It's basically a straight copy of a BluRay disc. Similar to an ISO usually with extras removed. Posthxc1982 (talk) 05:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

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Question about IPTV

Rips from IPTV channels directly are considered TVrip? --190.52.192.3 (talk) 21:51, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

And if the video was ripped from a livestream (independently of the website, own or third parties) of some TV channel? --190.52.192.3 (talk) 22:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

It depends. If it's a SD rip, must be labelled as PDTV (US/Canada) or SDTV (Europe, Latin America and Australia). If it's an HD rip, then it's an HDTV rip. TVRips are just analogue-captured recordings, no longer used anymore on modern releases. --Bankster (talk) 08:42, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Title

Why is the title not 'Pirated film release types'? Enjoyer of World (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

While film is possibly the correct option, most piracy groups do call them movies in my experience. Especially since they are not on the film medium. 180.150.101.44 (talk) 04:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean by "they are not on the film medium"? 182.1.73.151 (talk) 23:26, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Can someone update one of the sources for me? New and haven't quite figured out how to edit existing reference links yet

The link in question is the 2nd one that references The XviD Releasing Standards 2005 document. The original url is http://scenerules.irc.gs/t.html?id=2005_XViD.nfo but thats a dead link. The current updated link to the same document is https://scenerules.org/t.html?id=2005_XViD.nfo Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zf1223 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 28 February 2020 (UTC)