Talk:Pomelo

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not moved. bd2412 T 03:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Pomelo → Citrus maxima – As explained above, "pomelo" traditionally means grapefruit. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 11:39, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose that discussion is 9 years old! It was discussed in 2005. AND, that discussion is about "French" and "Spanish", not "English"; this is the English Wikipedia, what it's traditionally used for in Spanish and French are of no relevance; what French and Spanish Wikipedia calls things are of no relevance. There are many subjects where the French and Spanish names refer to something different in English and vice versa. Further, whenever I walk into a supermarket, the pomelos are not grapefruits. And not on ingredient lists either. In several recent citrus greening articles/documentaries/etc I've seen/read, there's a clear distinction between pomelos and grapefruit. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
• Support per WP:Flora, not a single overwhelmingly common common name (to me, it's shaddock). Sminthopsis84 (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
• Support per WP:FLORA, multiple common names in use. Plantdrew (talk) 17:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:FLORA#Scientific versus common names - searching "citrus maxima" always returns results for the fruit, meaning the fruit is much more prominent than the plant itself, so use the common name. Searching "pomelo" or some variation turns up results for this fruit much more often than results for [pink/red] grapefruit, as does searching for "shaddock" as Sminthopsis84 suggested, however searching "grapefruit" doesn't return any results for the fruit described in this article. Therefore according to WP:COMMONNAME either "pomelo" or "shaddock" are more common names for this fruit than "grapefruit", but neither is shown to be the more common name. Since the current name may be the common name, there is no reason to move the page. Existing lede deals with disambiguation and alternate names already. Ivanvector (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose redirecting pomelo to grapefruit as per WP:UE. But I'm neutral on everything else here. If the article is moved, pomelo can redirect there or be a disambiguation page. Red Slash 18:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose, if the purpose of the redirect proposal is to help clarify the ambiguity of whether pomelo refers to Citrus paradisi or Citrus maxima because of its usage in other languages (notably French and Spanish) differs from that of English usage, then this redirect proposal does not adequately give the user notice that such an ambiguity exists. What you really should be proposing is that pomelo redirect to a disambiguation page. yellowtailshark (talk) 22:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - WP:2DABS prevents that, but Citrus maxima could have a hatnote "Pomelo redirects here, for the fruit called "pomelo" in languages other than English, see Citrus paradisi" Sminthopsis84 (talk) 22:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

• French Wikipedia summarizes usage in other languages: see grapefruit and pomelo in other languages (my crude translation). My crude analysis is that the usage is not consistent among other languages, and is especially ambiguous in Romance languages. However, they cite sources indicating that there is no ambiguity in English - "pomelo" (and other names) always refer to this fruit, "grapefruit" always refers to citrus paradisi. The hatnote (on Pomelo, since it should not be moved) should read something like "In other languages, pomelo may refer to this fruit or to citrus paradisi." or "... pomelo may refer to this fruit or to the fruit known in English as grapefruit." Ivanvector (talk) 02:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - Per WP:Common name --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 05:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Cleanup and missing coverage

I culled the gallery, trying to remove low-quality or redundant pictures that add little to deeper understanding of the subject. I also note the relatively weak or absent coverage of:

• Description – overall configuration and size of plants, foliage, environmental needs
• Flowers – description and smell, if any
• Cultivation – where grown, common pests and diseases, production and processing, economic value
• Culinary dishes made with pomelo
• Nutritional value

Reify-tech (talk) 00:16, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Captain Shaddock brought seeds to Jamaica - or Barbados ?

Hej,

I find this information on page Pomelo (Pummelo) Citrus maxima dit : The pomelo [..] arrived to South America and the Caribbean at the end of the 17th century when captain Shaddock brought some seeds from the Malay islands and left them in Barbados thinking that the climate was warm enough. From there it spread to Jamaica and Puerto Rico.. Should the article be updated on that item as today it says : Citrus maxima was originally [..] introduced [..] to Jamaica in 1696? Thx, B Lemeukx (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

OK, I insert that change now, B Lemeukx (talk) 20:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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Possible removal from list

Entries in List of colors: N–Z contained links to this page.

The entries are :

• Pomelo
• Pomelo White
• Pomelo Olive

I don't see any evidence that these colors are discussed in this article and plan to delete them from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries

If someone decides that these colors should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Fruit variations by describing "Accession" extremely confusing

Not sure of it's because it is past midnight (way past my bedtime) or if the section describing variations in the fruit's physical characteristics is rambling, but I found that section to be confusing. Additionally, having "Accession", "accession", and "ACC" intermingled confused me as well. Do we really need to describe the collected samples? Or, can we get that section edited to describe each of the physical variations without refering back to the specific samples? CJLippert (talk) 07:20, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Sentences are contradictory.

Citrus maxima is usually grafted onto other citrus rootstocks, but may be grown from seed.<ref name=morton1/> Though the seeds of the pomelo are monoembryonic, producing seedlings identical to their parents, and therefore pomelo is typically grown from seed.<ref name=morton1/>

Well, is it usually grafted or usually grown from seed? It can't be both.97.115.109.12 (talk) 00:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

pomelo

Pomelo – hybrid of pamplemouse and grapefruit?

Found on https://zitrus-presse.de/pampelmuse-pomelo-unterschied/

William Connors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.95.108.173 (talk) 08:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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The pomelo (Citrus maxima) is the largest citrus fruit from the family Rutaceae and the principal ancestor of the grapefruit. It is a natural, non-hybrid citrus fruit, native to Southeast Asia. Growing on a tree 5–15 meters (16–50 feet) in height, the fruit is 15–25 cm (6–10 in) in diameter with a usual weight of 1–2 kilograms (2–4 pounds) and has a thicker rind than a grapefruit. It is divided into 11 to 18 segments and its flesh tastes like a mild grapefruit, with little of its common bitterness. The fruit generally contains few, relatively large seeds, but some varieties have numerous seeds.

Photograph credit: Ivar Leidus

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