Talk:Presidio of San Francisco

Added title for old comments

great pictures. nice article. nice place Thanks Hmains 01:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparently Jerry Garcia was stationed at Fort Winfield in the San Francisco Presidio until his discharge for bad behavior.

It seems to me there is very little info in this article about the actual military functions. Since it is sited as having the longest use, it would be nice to know what it was used for all that time, if anyone has info.Rikjoh 04:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Good point. Some information can be extracted from this site: Letterman's History jmswtlk 14:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Help! I don't get this wiki formatting for a major entry. Below is an historical chronology draft in response to Rikjoh. Also, I'll have the main historical references soon. Any advice or help formatting this? What you see is a cut and paste from a Appleworks file.

Okay, HIstoric Chronology and a brief "References" section have been added. The site still needs much more on historical architecture, which is the key reason the Presidio is a park, and it should have better photographs to illustrate the points made.

Thanks, Presidiopal 07:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC) Presidiopal

Correction needed

The "Governing Body" entry in the photograph at the top of the page is obsolete. I don't know how to change it because I can't find an "edit" button for that area. The correct entry is "Golden Gate National Recreation Area, National Park Service; and The Presidio Trust" . Can someone help post this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Presidiopal (talk • contribs) 01:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

Reorganizing Page

What do contributors think of the idea of shifting some of the Letterman Digital Arts Center material to the wiki page for that organization, eliminating it as a separate section, and replacing with a section "Major Organizations Located on the Presidio?" The section would list and describe the half dozen or so largest or more interesting tenants, such as the Presidio Trust, Gordon Moore Foundation, San Francisco Film Institute, Crissy Field Center, and future Walt Disney Family Museum, as well as, of course, the Lucas Center. This section could link to a directory with contact information for all tenant organizations on the Presidio. Your thoughts, please? Presidiopal 01:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay by me as long as you include the Thoreau Center (and any others that ought to be listed). Perhaps, the long history would be a separate page. And, it would be kept in sync with the LAMC/LAIR history page. jmswtlk 21:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

External links

Someone just [1] added an external link to a photo gallery at ITravelPhotography. Although this would normally count as WP:LINKSPAM because it's an obvious self-promotion, this is a high quality, non-commercial (apparently) gallery, and the user has so far been modest in adding only this one link to Wikipedia. I discuss this further on their talk page, User talk:ITravelPhotography. Any thoughts on whether we should keep this link?

Incidentally, I see a number of surplous links here. Charity Vargas Photography X 2 - definite spam. Good photography, but spam. Presidio Bowl - shouldn't be linking directly to outside businesses, could possibly be a reference to a mention of the bowling alley? Presidio RX - it's only a running club but we're not a directory. Presidio Mutiny, Real Estate Journal - look like a reference, not external links. The rule is if there is information suitable for an article it should be added to the article with a source link, but not an external link. "Taking the waters" - definite linkspam. A link to a business that reprints a Chronicle article. The article may be a good source (not external link) but if so should be linked directly to the newspaper.

I'll probably come back in a few days or weeks to clean this up if nobody has already.

-- Wikidemo 19:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Fisher museum plans

This piece needs updating on the Fisher museum plans. I contributed the initial information, but the picture has changed since then. The Fishers abandoned their plans to build within the Presidio, as I understand it, and with Donald Fisher's death I would expect a wholesale revision of whatever plans there are. [2] I will try to get to this, but it may be awhile and someone else might want to straighten it out in the meantime. But it does need updating MarmadukePercy (talk) 07:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Etymology

What does the word "presidio" mean, and why was this location called the Presidio? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.66.177 (talk) 01:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

pre-sidere means "to sit above", a figure of speech for "to rule over" (people or land), like in "president". Here, it means a Spanish fortress. You may want to read the Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidio for more facts 93.219.172.19 (talk) 20:27, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Military remnants?

The article should state whether there are any military remnants still at the Presidio. (Here's an example of what I mean by "military remnants": although NASA has almost completely taken over the former Naval Air Station Moffett Field, a Navy Lodge continues to operate at that location. It's hard to believe that after 219 years of military use, the Presidio has no remnants.) 71.219.201.182 (talk) 08:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Date format

Copied from User talk:Chaswmsday#what the MOS says about date format:

I notice you recently edited Presidio of San Francisco to change some date formats. Per MOS:DATERET, once consistent usage has been established in an article, it should be maintained, absent of consensus to change it. In this case, the article was clearly using dmy dates, as evidenced by the {{Use dmy dates}} template. Kindly revert your edit. Sincerely,—Stepheng3 (talk) 22:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

End copy.

@Stepheng3:, most dates in this article were in mdy format prior to your edits beginning March 11, 2015. You were the editor who added the {{Use dmy dates}} template, without justifying this change in the edit summary. MOS:DATETIES calls for this US-specific article to use mdy dates. Your own edits tacitly acknowledge the US-specific nature of this article, as you set the "unit preferences" parameter in the infobox to "US" and the "population_density_sq_mi" parameter to "auto". Your other edits here seem very beneficial, but not the switch to dmy. --Chaswmsday (talk) 11:03, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

When I added the template, I thought that the article had more dates in dmy format than mdy format and tried to standardize based on the majority, but apparently I miscounted. I just recounted and found 5 dmy and 8 mdy dates as of that time. Sorry.—Stepheng3 (talk) 04:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

In popular culture / trivia

An anonymous user today removed the following. This section seems too long and perhaps trivial rather than trivia. Yet I still think there's something worth rescuing. Thoughts?

Popular culture

The Presidio has been featured several times in the media of popular culture:

• In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Presidio is the location of Starfleet Academy, while the Fort Baker cantonment (opposite the Presidio) and the Marin Headlands are the grounds of Starfleet Command.
  • In the final episode of Star Trek: Voyager, Admiral Janeway points out to her present-day self that the USS Voyager is preserved and located on the grounds of the Presidio.
  • In Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, Kirk and Spock have a discussion while walking on the shore adjacent to Fort Point in present-day 1986.
• The Presidio, a 1988 American crime thriller movie starring Mark Harmon, Sean Connery, and Meg Ryan is set in and around the military base.
• As seen in the 2004 Metallica movie, Some Kind of Monster, the band members start recording their new album St. Anger at the Presidio in January 2001.
• The Presidio appeared as Paradiso in the 2004 video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
• The 2005 television movie Murder at the Presidio is loosely based on actual events.
• The Presidio was featured in the Sci-fi Channel reality show, Ghost Hunters, on October 3, 2007 in the episode entitled "Spirits of San Francisco."
• The Presidio was featured as a racing track in the 1999-2000 video game San Francisco Rush 2049
• The Presidio was modeled in a map in the 2003 video game Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3.
• On their 2008 self-titled album, band This Will Destroy You performed a song called "Burial on the Presidio Banks".
• In the 2014 movie Big Hero 6, the Presidio was inspiration for the San Fransokyo Institute of Technology.

Runner1928 (talk) 03:30, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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Coordinate error

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—88.200.137.153 (talk) 15:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article, and they appear to me to be correct. If you believe that there is an error, please give a clear explanation of the problem below, and someone will be along to review the situation. Deor (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

"privatized"?

The article states the Presidio was "privatized by Congressional action" in 1996. The reference link is broken, and a google search didn't turn up the original story. The Presidio was not privatized: it was decommissioned but is still public land as part of the federal park system. Distingué Traces (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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The Presidio of San Francisco is a park and former United States Army post on the northern tip of the San Francisco Peninsula in the city of San Francisco, California, forming part of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. The presidio was established as a fortified location in 1776, when New Spain founded it to gain a foothold in Alta California and the San Francisco Bay. It passed to Mexico in 1820, and in turn to the United States in 1848. As part of a military reduction program under the Base Realignment and Closure process from 1988, the United States Congress voted to end the presidio's status as an active military installation. In 1994, it was transferred to the National Park Service, ending 219 years of military use and beginning its next phase of mixed commercial and public use. This lithograph, published in 1822, shows the Presidio of San Francisco and its surroundings during the Spanish era, with the Golden Gate visible in the background to the right of the image.

Lithograph credit: Victor Adam, after Louis Choris; restored by Adam Cuerden

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