Talk:Quincy University

Hazing at QU

There is some question about whether hazing rituals exist at Quincy. Well I was there and I saw it. This happens during the first week called "Orientation Week". Freshmen are given these stupid looking beanies (actually they are more like beach hats but they are just as dumb) and are forced to wear them all week. Through the week there are childish games and stupid crap like that. At the end of the week there is a Kangaroo Court dance in which certain students are selected. They are given a "fair" trial by upperclassmen. The year I was there (I only attended a year because I hated the place so much), there was this maniquin called "knot-e-pine" who was assigned the duty of the defense attorney. They had this "Prostituting" attorney (a student dressed like a prostitute. They then performed humiliating pranks on the students.

It took me a while to figure out why this kind of hazing was necessary at Quincy. I think it all had to do with the fact that the school was run by a bunch of sick control freaks.

In fact, any student who was ever brough up in front of J board (judicial board, where fellow students judge students accused of misconduct) can tell you that the process they received was about as fair as the Kangaroo Court.

Of course, I believe that the hazing rituals which occur at Quincy were childish, cruel, sadistic and totally unnecessary and give the incomming students a bad image of the college as a whole. But I suppose its not that different than any other kind of controlled environment. You turn the students against eachother and allow them a chance to vent their rage on fellow students so they do not turn on the administration.69.210.253.255 22:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I want to add something. I was a student at the very same time that the original poster was tthere. And I did see the exact same thing. The poster had the decency to delete this but I will tell you as a victim that I was hazed. And Pleae let me add, I do have a year book to prove my statement. Anyone who doubts what I say can get a copy of the 1981 yearbook and have a look for themself. And finally..... this is not "Libelous" because "libel" is telling lies. I am not lying.

I also would add that, though this incident happened in 1980 I never received an appology from the college. 69.219.147.53

If this is going into the main article, it needs to be encyclopaedic. This means: it should be NPOV, and it should be verified in some external source. It should at least be verifiable in principle, which your allegations don't seem to be (what years is this supposed to have taken place?). Note that Wikipedia is not a place for first-person accounts or original research. That doesn't mean you can't expose your hated nemeses here, but it does mean you have to do a bit of work first. /blahedo (t) 06:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Well it did happen whether you wish to believe it or not. Maybe the thing to do is to post a link to other sources. (This unsigned comment posted 16:43, 7 February 2006 by 69.219.155.138)

I found an article by Joshua A. Sussberg in the Cardozo Law Review (I accessed it from a subscription-based service, so I can't link to it) that seems to mention hazing at Quincy. I haven't read it, but the citation is 24 Cardozo L. Rev. 1421 (March 2003). Ardric47 01:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok, that's progress. Could you go ahead and read it, and summarise the results here? If it can be cited, I have no problem with restoring (an NPOV version of) the hazing summary./blahedo (t) 05:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I found this link today searching for the name of one of the people quoted in that article: [1]. The paper itself has extensive notes, and perhaps more information. It's 71 pages long, though...could I e-mail it to you? Ardric47 02:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

There seem to be two different things being described here. The original poster, and the link recently added to "External links", deal with general hazing of all freshmen, more than twenty-five years ago (and, as far as I know, not performed in any general fashion for the last ten to fifteen). That part still needs some sort of cite, preferably a bit better than an internet message board.

The sports hazing thing has some pretty solid credentials, though. If that's what the Cardozo article is about, I don't need to see the article, but you should put the cite for it in the References section when you add it (along with that espn link, of course). /blahedo (t) 20:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

As a 2003 graduate of QU, I can say with personal authority that the present-tense freshman hazing clause that the poster wants to add is certainly unjustified, and perhaps libelous. However, as we are constantly reminded, personal authority is fairly meaningless in this forum; the burden of proof lies with the poster, in the form of solid documentation. For this reason even changing the freshman hazing clause to past tense isn't warranted, and neither is the link to the blog-like entry on "DiscussAnything.com." That isn't "information" on hazing as wikipedia comes to understand it. It's merely a biased, unverifiable personal account. The Sussburg article doesn't actually analyze QU (non-soccer) freshman hazing at all. As far as I can see the only mention of Quincy University is one quote from a QU soccer player, and a somewhat lengthy endnote discussing the soccer hazing scandal of 2001. The endnote links an ESPN article on the same subject (see note 1, linked above). That incident, by the way, may worth mentioning on the main page, because of its verifiability. 12.215.187.163 22:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree that neither source mentions anything except sports-related incidents. Ardric47 02:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Seeing that the original post was inflamatory I deleted it out of respect for the integrity of Wikipedia's standards of fairness and honesty. I would state that the incident described previously did occur but it occured in 1980. I did check and found that Quincy University does currently have a "no-hazing" policy. None-the-less I did link the sports related hazing story because I fealt it was relavent and came from a reliable source.

Josh Rabe

Source should be added regarding him being a graduate of Quincy University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydney Rigdon (talk • contribs) 20:31, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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Comparing Quincy University to the Stanford Experiment

I read a great deal about the sordid history of hazing at Quincy University. I heard from several sources about the reason for such activities as the "Kangaroo Court" and other activities going on there. It reminds me a lot of the Standford Experiment which had student volunteers serve as guards and others as inmates. During this experiment, the guards were given complete control over the inmates and abused and humiliated those in their charge. This has much in common with the QU's Kangaroo Court. See this video on YouTube for yourself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_LKzEqlPto

Sunshine Warrior04 (talk) 23:23, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

PROOF OF "KANGAROO COURT" ABUSE AT QUINCY UNIVERSTY

Shown below is a link to a site displaying a page from the Gyrfalcon (the propaganda newspaper for the students) showing a student being ABUSED by upperclassmen. This abuse is REAL!

http://www.e-yearbook.com/yearbooks/Quincy_University_Gyrfalcon_Yearbook/1973/Page_50.html

Its all about the power of bullying. The school sanctions an abuse ritual so some of the "students" are allowed to go on a sadistic rampage. Don't tell me its all in good fun. This is hazing! It is abuse. It is sick and sadistic. I would bet that the people doing the abuse would never stand up in a fair fight. And what did the others in the crowd (including faculty and administrators) do? They cheered it all on!

Sick bastards all of them! I hope they all go to hell!

So stop lying and trying to cover it up!

Sunshine Warrior04 (talk) 17:50, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Sources badly needed

@Mb7720: if you believe this article has sufficient sources, you'll really need to explain how. Breaking it down by section:

• The lead has a source for the number of students and that's all
• History: Zero sources
• Academics: A single citation to the University itself, so no secondary source
• Campus: A single citation that verifies 7 words out of this multi-paragraph section
• Athletics: Zero sources
• Notable alumni: The one section that doesn't need any sources because the individual articles cover it, actually has a few

In addition to this, there's quite a bit of advertisement-type language throughout, though I didn't feel the need to add a cleanup template for that. Things like Quincy being an "attractive, affordable" town need to be taken out. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:56, 17 August 2021 (UTC)