Talk:Republican Party (Chile, 2019)
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Far-right?
editThere seem to be some editing conflict regarding the political position of Partido Republicano in the left-right spectrum. Foreign sources seem at times describe the party and its leader JAK as far-right (extrema derecha). Political scientist like Cristóbal Rovira Kaltwasser describe the party as "radical right" rather than far-right.[1] JAK has publicly denied the label "extreme" for his presidential candidacy. Given there is no consensus on its position it seem fair to label it "far-right[citations] or right-wing[citations]" in the infobox, and include a brief discussion on its position in the article. Dentren | Talk 01:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- This has already been discussed in the Spanish Wikipedia. Over there, it has been concluded that the far right description is appropriate as per press and, most importantly, academic sources (papers, not interviews). Of course Rovira and Kast himself are entitled to their own opinions but scholarly analysis is most important in this case. Bedivere (talk) 04:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
-The problem is not if it is far right or not, it might be far right, but something that I have noticed is that most political parties which are labeled as far right, the text always starts saying "it has been described as being far right ..." something that you won´t see when look at another political party such as centre-left or centre-right, these articles are written as "conservative", "liberal", "progressive", "socialdemocratic", etc. but it is rare to see the introduction saying "centr-left" o "centre-right". I think, and many can think the same, that wikipedia editors are mainly biased to the left, or even far left, some to the centre, and a few to the right, as long as the way to describe political parties are different depending on if it is "far right" or "progressive" do you see the difference? 83.47.29.160 (talk) 16:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
- How would you describe it then? "Ultraconservative"? It's the same thing. --Bedivere (talk) 01:08, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Bedivere that scholarly articles and the press have agreed to use certain terms when describing this party.--WMrapids (talk) 00:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- The body can have "far-rigth" in it with a description, as it currently does, but there is no consensus for that to be in the lead or the infobox and it is clearly inaccurate. Just because some news organizations use a term that they do not know the proper definition of does not mean it belongs in the lead or the infobox, as academics have described it as inaccurate. Bill Williams 08:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Please refer to the Talk:José Antonio Kast. Also see Google Scholar. --Bedivere (talk) 15:08, 19 December 2021 (UTC) P.S. Please note I am not opposing it being described "right-wing to far-right", although the party is mostly described as "far-right"; it is true some sources call it just "right-wing", but simply removing "far-right" just because you disagree with it or call some sources non-neutral is just gross. Please stop such behaviour, Bill. --Bedivere (talk) 15:12, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- “Far-right” is increasingly a rhetorical and pejorative term that lacks coherence. Relying on “academic sources” is providing a false consensus that far-right correctly describes the Republican Party given the well-documented overwhelming bias towards the left and far-left in the academy. Consider this line on the party’s ideology: “Kast has been recognized as the main leader of the extreme right for several years, consistently advocating neoliberal economics, anti-immigration policies and opposition to abortion and gay marriage.” The use of the term “extreme” is non-NPOV and loaded. The positions listed would more accurately be called centrist or center-right. Sources on the left and the right will always overstate how extreme their rivals are for political gain. Editors on Wikipedia should not be doing the same. Dr Fell (talk) 22:19, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Please refer to the Talk:José Antonio Kast. Also see Google Scholar. --Bedivere (talk) 15:08, 19 December 2021 (UTC) P.S. Please note I am not opposing it being described "right-wing to far-right", although the party is mostly described as "far-right"; it is true some sources call it just "right-wing", but simply removing "far-right" just because you disagree with it or call some sources non-neutral is just gross. Please stop such behaviour, Bill. --Bedivere (talk) 15:12, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- The body can have "far-rigth" in it with a description, as it currently does, but there is no consensus for that to be in the lead or the infobox and it is clearly inaccurate. Just because some news organizations use a term that they do not know the proper definition of does not mean it belongs in the lead or the infobox, as academics have described it as inaccurate. Bill Williams 08:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Abbreviation
editIf PLR is the abbreviation of Partido Republicano, what does the L stands for?-- Bancki (talk) 11:29, 9 May 2023 (UTC)