Talk:Rita Ora/Archive 1

Archive 1

2011-2012: ORA and Commercial breakthrough -Edit request

The article says "Throughout 2011, Ora released viral videos of herself working on her debut album" One can not release an viral video. The Video is released and then it becomes viral The Sentences should , in be changed to. "Throughout 2011,Ora released videos of herself working on her debut album, these videos became viral" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpb101 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

A question about her origin

She is ethnic Albanian(Kosovar),her nationality is British.And by the way,how can she be with British origin if she is to ethnic Albanian parents?That is absurd!She is Kosovar/British for sake!What do Wikipedia workers have against Albanians?!?!?

No need for translation of the name in Serbian!

There is no need to translate her name in Serbian because her origin is not Serbian and not either jugoslavian. She is an Kosovo-Albanian origin singer and she had no career in Serbia! Its like translating the name of Marija Serifovic (serbian singer) in albanian when she never ever had any albanian career. So try to be more neutral about this is my message for you...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mergiiiii (talk • contribs) 16:01, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

She was born in Serbia when it was Yugoslavia by her own parents' choosing and all subjects born on that territory have their names provided in Serbian or Serrbo-Croat, it doesn't matter two hoots if the subject is Albanian, Romanian, Greek, Hungarian or Turkish. Had Marija Šerifović been born in Albania and had Albanian exclusively rendered names in its own transcribed forms and not in the source format then that too would qualify for being presemted in Albanian. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:32, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia lists only names that are used by sources regardless of citizenship etc. If Marija Serifovic was born in Albania and became known as Maria Serifi then it would be relevant to add, otherwise the Albanian name would be useless to the reader.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 06:53, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Why the need to complicate things? She has no relation to Serbian people and has no knowledge of them. She is an ethnic Albanian born in Kosovo. Kosovo is an independent country and is the only country she ever mentions including Albania. Novak Djokovic in fact was born in Kosovo but is of Serbian origin, does he also have to have an Albanian translation of his name? It is completely ridiculous and insignificant. People are confused about her ethnicity as it is.

can we please re-instate her ethnic background to the article see this video and fast forward to 1:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-xlXNeZBsc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.169.162.172 (talk) 13:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Added to intro. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 14:03, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Pristina/Prishtina/Priština

A brief message to Zvuqniki here: I personally write Priština this way because I always have done. Olsi when writing in English writes Peja for the western Kosovan city, but we only do this in talk. Nobody suggested amending the present spelling, how we refer to it in talk and on the articles is different. Likewise you may write Prishtina, Kosova even if writing in English. "Pristina" is not the international format, it is merely the Serbian spelling minus diacritic not found anywhere except where diacritics are left out from the outset. However, it happens to be the Wikipedia preferred spelling and this is why it is to be used as such in articles and editors are wholly justified in amending both Priština and Prishtina to Pristina wherever the word is being used for contemporary purposes. This is a little off-topic and I was just assuring you that you have nothing to worry about. Thanks for raising the issue. I hope that now this talk can be concluded with the editing sanction lifted. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 19:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I know this is not the place to discuss this, but I have to say that Pristina, actually is the international format, and the Serbian formats were accepted and used by the internationals in the late 1990s because that were their official names at the time. The original names of cities and places in Kosovo were changed right after the Serbian occupation of Kosovo, and they were used for many years. That does not mean that they are the actual names of cities/places. But it's very difficult to change a name on an international level. Kosovo's independence is very recent, hence the Serbian version of the names being used still (i.e. Gjakova being called Đakovica). But getting back to the issue, Prishtina's name has always been 'Prishtina' (or in your case 'Priština'). What I'm trying to emphasize is that the name is with a SH (or š) and not an S. However you write it it's a matter of preference. But it's important to get the actual name right (i.e. Ferizaj and not Urošsevac), so that the meaning behind it does not change. But it can take many years for names to change on an international level, i mean even today Beograd is called Belgrade. Although it has the same meaning, how long has it been since it's been called Beligrad?Zvuqniki (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Beograd has the name Belgrade in English and that is the one and only true exonym for any settlement in the former Yugoslavia, because everything else when speaking English is and always has been according to the first language of the host. At the moment, things are frozen with nobody really knowing what is what. Sources continue to refer to Kosovan settlements by their Serbian names if they were mentioning the places immediately before the UNMIK period. This is really when the modern period for Kosovo began: with Belgrade's influence muted from that time, the declaration of independence was merely symbolic in what it achieved INSIDE Kosovo. It remains controversial however so nobody should speak liberally about Kosovo being independent nor being de jure Serbian land. Anyhow, cities such as Prizen, Uroševac and others were making their way onto mainstream news circa 1998 when fighting between rebels and government forces escalated. The BBC cannot suddenly start referring to Ferizaj. To that end, Đakovica did not replace Gjakova because the latter is merely the Albanian name for the city. The Turkish name is Yakova so this is also how it would have been known in English sources pre-1912. Serbia also did not "occupy" Kosovo. The Balkan League declared war on the Ottoman overlords and this was supported by Serbian, Bulgarian and Slavic Muslim uprisings within the Kosovo vilayet - these groups made up slightly less than half the population I admit - but for Serbia's part, the purpose of removing the Ottomans was precisely to annex the territory and this they did; recognition followed at the Treaty of London 1913 when as part of the deal they had to withdraw from the wider area to make way for a newly independent Albania. Note also that there is no such thing as a name change on an international level. Every language has its own titles for settlements and Turkish has always referred to the region as Kosova as does Albanian. In English, Kosovo is entrenched as it has been known to people and press since before the 1999 local handover. Finally, Uroševac is a town to have grown quickly in a short time and despite the origin of the core settlement, all Serbian sources have recorded it as Uroševac in the time it has been a city. With that, the correct English name for the settlement before 1912 was Ferizovik because that was the Turkish name. One good source to consult for all this in the Encyclopædia Britannica 1911 which was published in time before the liberation of Ottoman lands (liberation FROM Ottomans and by EVERYONE - Balkan League AND Albanian Provisional forces). So finally looping back to the Kosovan capital, the claim that the city was always called "Prishtina" is correct when discussing how its name has been in Albanian. Never English however, the Turkish name (and pre-1912 for English) is Priştine. So there really is no such thing as an actual name for a city, it is what people call it. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 21:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

This is not the place for this. Please, make a proper forum and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. However, expanding on your last sentence, I agree with you: a place is what people call it. Without going too much into semantics, if a place becomes a place, i.e. deserves a name, it means that it has a purpose, and therefore comes into existence. I believe that when that happens, that is the 'actual name' of that place, be it a city, or a field. Nothing, gives no one the right to blatantly change the name, and act as if it never had another name before that. That's what gradually happened when the Serbs occupied (or to put it into your terms 'casually moved in') Kosovo. Not just with cities, roads, places, areas, mountains, almost everything was being re-named. You would have had to live here to actually know what was going on. At a point, it got too much, and then the war (yes, WAR, not Conflict) between Kosovo and Serbia broke.Zvuqniki (talk) 00:32, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

War was between FR Yugoslavian authorities and Kosovan separatists, not Kosovo vs Serbia because in any case, the latter considered the former part of its territorial integrity. "Casually moved in" is not a term I use and "occupied" is anti-Serbian POV interpretation. The recorded event sees the Balkan League declare war on the Ottoman Empire, uprisings by Balkan League proponents from within Ottoman territory, finally annexation of those lands by victorious entities pushing Ottomans back to East Thrace (a legacy cast onto future Turkish republic). Kosovo at that time was neither Kosovo nor Kosova in English but the strange-looking Kossovo. Everything else has been a matter of people consulting contemporary maps to find that names of features adhere to local dominant language. If we take the modern-day Kosovo republic, this would unequivocally mean Albanian language names (eg. Peja, Ferizaj, etc.). The only problem is this unresolved status of recognition in the eyes of institutions as the world has never seen so many states at one time, around 205 including unrecognised. In 1878, Serbia, Montenegro and Romania became only the 27th-29th independent countries. We don't have treaties anymore for wide disputes, merely arbitrary recognition or unrecognition by a state acting according to how it feels on the day (Kosovo hasn't had a withdrawal yet but Republic of China and Western Sahara have had swing). So on the whole, yes everywhere has a name according to associated populations but in such scenarios, it is very difficult to assign anything "correct" to English. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 05:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Her recent video

The page claims that the video for Hot Right now, featuring Rita Ora has almost 10 million views, when it actually currently stands at 15,901,606 on the official DJ Fresh Youtube upload. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jadeeyox (talk • contribs) 14:51, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Obviously the information is out of date. The page is to remain frozen for the next few days, after that you are free to update it. I'm not quite sute how relevant these things are though. Many things have millions of views on Youtube but tend to avoid special mention on articles here. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 15:29, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Rita Ora on other wikipedias

Now there is the Rita Ora's page on other wikipedias, for example on it:wiki, the wikipedia where I work. I thing that somebody must add these pages here.--Umby96 (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. As soon as the page becomes free to edit, I'll add whichever language I find if another editor doesn't manage to first. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:06, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Debut album title

The title "Albi" is completely FAKE. It wasn't confirmed by Rita, Roc Nation or any producer envolved. It was used by some fans on web. Please, somebody change it as soon as you can. --SupremoJunior (talk) 02:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

The page is not protected any more.  Sandstein  16:59, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to end March 2012 edit war on origin

Since there are two sources, one for Pristina and the other for Shkodër, there is conflict. The Shkodër link is in Albanian and refers to the subject's grandparents. Pristina in turn constitutes the birthplace. I propose that we introduce a section into the main text citing the family origin in Shkodër and use the source, and then move the Pristina source one place above onto the birthplace section and to avoid a duplicate, we remove the "origin" section from the infobox because at this point it would be superfluous. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 07:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

The source Durresaryl1 provided above includes an interview where someone who I presume is Rita Ora says she was born in Pristina so (as mentioned elsewhere) I don't really understand how or why this was still in dispute. I don't really get the relevance of the subject's grandparents to the subject's place of birth. If it's felt the info isn't adequately sourced then I'm fine with completely removing the place of birth. However I would have to question the need for detailed info on her grandparents origins (if that's what's being proposed). Unless there's some evidence of relevence to her notability or otherwise that it's particularly significant for some reason, I'd generally be inclined to keep it out since this is an article about her, not her grandparents. BTW per WP:DOB we also need a source for her date of birth or it should be removed. Nil Einne (talk) 07:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually looking further I see the dispute is partially over 'origin' rather then simply 'place of birth'. Given that was was evidentally born in Pristina (and seems to say this or Kosovo a lot) and moved when she was 1 to the UK and if I understand the comments correctly, the only info on Shkodër we have relates to he grandparents I question whether it's accurate to say her origin or her families origin is Shkodër. I would suggest any mention of origin simply be removed and if you do want to mention it it should specify who (grandparents, parents) rather then using the undefined term 'family'. Do we have any evidence she actually considers Shkodër an important part of her origins (does she ever mention it)? Even if we find sources discussing her parents, I don't think we should be adding it unless there's some evidence it's actually significant to her I don't think we should be adding it. Nil Einne (talk) 08:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

BTW as for the Yugoslavia/Kosovo dispute if it's felt necessary how about we say Priština, SAP Kosovo, SFR Yugoslavia to accurately reflect the politicial details at her time of birth while also trying to reflect the subjects belief that Kosovo is an important part of where she was born. Nil Einne (talk) 08:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Your suggestions are equally good. Firstly, yes to the suggestion of Priština, SAPK, SFRY (in short), and you can see it makes sense to take the "origin" segment out of the infobox because it really offers no new feature. Its inclusion is ambiguous to say the least and I refer to the whole website, not just here. People have never known how to treat that part when an individual is linked to so many places. It is far better for bands and other types of group: a band may be formed in Scotland but could have members from everywhere in the world. Concerning the grandparents' origin, I do believe that as the source is based on the subject, it can be used as an external link if nothing more. On the one hand, giving a person's geographical origin is very much biographical information and many U.S. subjects are presented this way, but from another viewpoint, Shkodër is not very far away from Pristina (not if you take the globe) and it is probably the case that ALL peope have some ancestry from areas nearby but not quite in the home town. To that end, we can keep all mention of Shkodër out but I just need to get a word from User:Olsi who introduced the source. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok people, after reading this, I felt the need to create a wikipedia account, and settle this. The origin dispute is of very little importance and has no substantial evidence to support it whatsoever! This has arisen, because of a very bad Albanian journalist that works for Top Channel Albania, that did an interview with her, and he himself decided to 'add' that she comes from Shkodër. There is no evidence to support that she is related to the city of Shkodër in any way. Being related to her and all, I have no clue what that journalist was talking about. As far as I know not even her grandparents are from Shkodër. Maybe her great-grandparents! So this origin dispute has arisen just because of some bad journalism. Even if her grandparents were actually born in Shkodër, which they weren't, why is this relevant? Who cares what is the origin of some famous person's grandparents? Ok, even if we cared, what do we mean by origin? How far up the family tree do we have to go to establish origin? If we're going up the family tree, I might suggest you a Swedish genetic study that concludes that almost all of the worlds homo sapiens are from the continent of Africa! Ok, let's consider this: Michael Jackson, possibly the most famous person of our generation in the world, has his wikipedia page, and nowhere on it does it state where his grandparents are from! So shall we just leave it as it is, that she was born in Prishtina, Kosovo, and moved to London at an early age. That's it. If you actually want to know the origin of Rita Ora, then let's do this how it should be done, and create pages for her mother and father, and then go up the family tree like that. And as for the suggestion of writing it Priština, that's an issue that should be first settled in the history section of Kosovo, and then move on from there. But being a very frequent Wikipedia reader, I see that the preferred method of the use of city names is the internationally recognized form. Therefore, the correct form would be the current one. Zvuqniki (talk) 15:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Olsi has been notified here, and Durresary here. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I read your comments and I think we should not mention her origin, but only her birth place. If you want a source for her date of birth, here is one. --Olsi (talk) 16:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Durresary posted this comment at Zvuqniki's talk page which is fair enough, I think we can all conclude that the origin if anything would be Priština, that ancestry is not important, that the Shkodër connection has proven weak and mostly that the "origin" segment need not be included. Five accounts agree with this versus nobody now pushing for the opposite. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 19:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Place of "Origin" is London

Many people are born in one place, and brought-up in another. In Rita's case, she was born in Pristina and raised in London. This should be reflected in the infobox: the "Born" section should read her birthplace Pristina, and the "Origin" section should read London where she was brought-up. This is the standard format for anyone who was born in one place but brought-up in another. There's countless examples for precedent on Wikipedia. High profile example? Kanye West was born in Atlanta, but moved to Chicago at the age of 3 and grew up there. He self-identifies as a Chicagoan. His info is "born: Atlanta" and "origin: Chicago". Gloria Estefan was born in Havana, but moved to Miami at the age of 2 and grew up there. She self-identifies as a Miamian. Her info is "born: Havana" and "origin: Miami". In the case of Rita Ora, she moved to London before her first birthday and has lived there ever since. She self identifies as a Londoner, as exhibited in this monologue: "I was born in Kosovo, but I grew up in West London. I'm definitely a London girl, and represent the UK, but will always have Kosovo in my heart."[1] As is the case with other articles, her origin should read Ladbroke Grove, London, England (or just London, United Kingdom), to reflect where she was actually brought-up. Southlondoneye (talk) 15:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Interesting points, I certainly like the sound of it. The only problem is that "origin" is almost entirely ambiguous. London is most definitely her artistic origin, much like bands whose members could be from all over the globe but the band remains linked to its place of formation. But what does it mean to say a person originates from somewhere? Where he was born? Where he now lives? Where he was in the intervening time? And even then, with so many places linked to an individual, how does one qualify as an "origin"? Rita Ora is some type of Londoner, yes. So London is her home and where she is based as a recording artist; Kosovo is her birthplace and family origin. That is one reason I liked this revision (scroll down to article image). There is a catch though, when a person originates from near enough to his birthplace then "origin" is not required. If he forms an association with another place, we present that as "origin" in contrast to his birthplace details so there is a permanent discrepancy. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 17:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Interesting points you've raised! According to the Wikipedia rules on "origin", an artist's origin is: "The city from which the singer or group originated (that is, the city where the group was founded; or the city where individual performers started their career, should it not match the location of their birth). If the city is not known, specify at least the country." This would make Rita Ora's origin London only. It should make no reference to her ethnic or family origin. Any information on ethnicity/family background should be stated in the Early Life paragraph, not the Infobox. (Examples: Madonna, Ciara, Pink etc). Southlondoneye (talk) 08:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. After all, a person has an article because he is notable and that notability in turn needs to be linked to a place. London it is. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 14:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Was just about to post this (origin is London). Birth is where the person is born obviously, but origin is career origin (hence London) years after she moved there in the year of her birth. The opening line should also be amended.. its British... followed by.. of Kosovar Albanian ethnicity/descent. JJ 65 (talk) 01:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I think this section qualifies as consensus that London is career origin and therefore will be displayed in origin part. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Evlekis (Евлекис), What I'am going to do (and I believe is the best action to take) is to remove the "Place of origin" section as it is not needed or required in the infobox, and will only be continually changed if not removed, from Pristina, Kosovo to London, United Kingdom. Therefore when the "Place of origin" section is removed nobody would have to bother with, whether Rita Ora's Origin is Kosovo, Serbia or United Kingdom. MarkMysoe (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I am fine with it either way. I contributed to both talks albeit with different editors in each. You're right that this will prevent constant changing, though I only hope this is all right with the other two in this section. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

As has been mentioned, her career origin is London, or West London to be precise. I'm adding this template to avoid any confusion. Chie one (talk) 21:48, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012 origin dispute

The origin dispute has transformed and is now a battle of two possibilities: origin removed entirely vs West London. Let's use this section to discuss this. I don't mind either, but the template does clarify that origin implies artistic roots and not family background; for that, I offer weak support for West London. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 04:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

There would be no confusion if Template:Infobox musical artist#origin is absent from the infobox, as Chie one, comment suggests above. The article clearly states that Rita Ora grew up in the UK and went to school in the UK. Rita Ora is not only a singer but also a actress. The origin section is not needed nor required (see for example the infobox's of Rihanna and Tinie Tempah) where the Template:Infobox musical artist#origin is not used, because it is not necessary. Rihanna started her music career in the USA, when Rihanna was signed for the first time by Jay-Z at the age of 16 to Def Jam Recordings, and then Rihanna moved to the USA at the age of 16 in February 2005, but that does not make Rihanna' music origin to be the USA. Rita Ora's music career started and only took off when Rita Ora was also signed for the first time by Jay-Z in 2009 at the age of 18 and then Rita Ora moved to New York City, USA in 2009 at the age of 18 to join Roc Nation, therefore New York, USA would be Rita Ora's music career origin and not West London, UK. So would that also make Rita Ora's music career origin to be New York, USA, I don't think so, in the same way the USA would not be Rihanna's music career origin nor Barbados. Rita Ora's passport is a Republic of Kosovo's Kosovan passport, and nobody even knows whether Rita Ora has British citizenship and a British passport. MarkMysoe (talk) 05:22, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Strong support for West London. Template:Infobox musical artist#origin states that an artist's origin is where he/she originated ie started their career, and in Rita Ora's case that was definitely in London. Rita's career started well before signing to Roc Nation; she featured on published records by distinguished artists before Jay-Z signed her. Rita's always lived in London, the official Roc Nation website states that Rita Ora is British based [2]. It is also very important to note that most artists' careers start before their first record label signing. Kanye West's career didn't start in 2003 (when he was signed by Jay-Z to Roc-A-Fella), it started before. Drake's career didn't start in 2009 (when he was signed by Lil Wayne to Young Money), it started years before. In Rihanna's case, her city of birth matches her city of origin (Bridgetown), so it is not necessary to state it twice. In the case of Tinie Tempah, his city of birth matches his city of origin (London), so it is not necessary to state it twice. Regarding Rihanna, she was discovered in Barbados, where she auditioned for Carl Sturken and Evan Rogers (who subsequently signed her for their production company) in 2003. Rihanna signed for Def Jam and moved to New York in 2005. As for Rita Ora's nationality, the assertions of MarkMysoe are speculation. Rita has been a permanent resident of the United Kingdom for 21 years, so it's highly likely that she acquired British citizenship and a British passport in that time. This adds nothing to the "origin" debate though. With all things considered, her origin should be stated as West London. Southlondoneye (talk) 12:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

There is no dispute.. there is one renegade user who ignores WP:Bio origin guidlines.."The city from which the singer or group originated, that is, the city where individual performers started their career". As is well documented Ora "grew up in West London. I'm definitely a London girl", having lived there since the year she was born. JJ 65 (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I still declare neutrality here. But surely, if there be more than one origin, can't we list each one? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 15:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

No idea why this nonsense was started. Infact i do, because no one had bothered to read the Infobox musical artist origin. Her origin is London, or West London to be precise. In any bio it will state birth, which the infobox has, and then origin, where the person was brought up and started their career, which is London. She has spent her entire life in London, started her career in London, states on the Roc site "British based". This is what origin was created for. The template will stay to avoid any confusion.Chie one (talk) 16:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I cannot comment on Rihanna, just checked the article and all I can see is thick round thighs, they're still in my head! Too distracted to look at the information under her thighs!!!! Perhaps someone else can! ;) Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 15:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep origin London is correct. In terms of birth, i've added (present day Kosovo) as that covers her birthplace.Tx rnel (talk) 18:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Influences

{{Request edit}} Can anybody please check the sources of her influences for me? I already watched the videos but and I didn't listen all those people being mentioned, but I'm not that good in English so maybe I didn't listen well. I just don't want to remove anything important.--SupremoJunior (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

The {{request edit}} template is for requesting a specific WP:COI edit to be made, so I'm tld'ing I think you should add the {{BLP sources}} template to the top if section in the article itself (not here), and leave a note here with specifics if you're concerned about the section. hth Woz2 (talk) 18:10, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Rita Ora Albanian

You should add: "Rita Sahatçiu Ora, better known as Rita Ora, is a Albanian British singer-songwriter from London, UK."

So add that she is Albanian. She even speaks Albanian. It states it in multiple sources. One is a youtube channel's biography created by youtube. thanks! (See Below)

Works Cited:

"Rita Ora's Biography." n. page. Web. 18 May. 2012. <http://www.last.fm/music/Rita Ora/ wiki>.

Youtube. N.d. n.p. Web. 18 May 2012. <http://www.diigo.com/item/t/4547128_120563726_7030985>.

Denihoxha (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

If you read the article, there are ample references to her Albanian background including within the introductory paragraph (LEDE). The category section provides a number of sections that support Ora's ethnicity. To add it to the first line will only clutter the existing arrangement. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 04:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: no consensus for this change. --Six words (talk) 22:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

"How We Do (Party)" NZ certification

Can someone add this archived link (http://www.webcitation.org/68XH0qkY7) to the source of the NZ certification for "How We Do (Party)". Because there is no other source for NZ certifications. 114.77.226.195 (talk) 11:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Has also peaked at number 68 on the US Hot 100 Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:24, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Where was she born?

The biography section says Pristina, yet the infobox says London.--Cymru123 (talk) 10:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree, the infobox should be the same as the article - she was born in Yugoslavia.VenomousConcept (talk) 11:00, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

How is she British if she was born in Kosovo? This doesn't make the article consistent with a lot of other articles on Wiki which have hyphenated nationalities.

British

The first line of the article says Rita is "Biritish" - should this be "British" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.16.10.20 (talk) 17:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

No, it should NOT say British. It should say either "Albanian-British" or just "Albanian". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koldproxy (talk • contribs) 21:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Albanian per se is misleading, such references pertain to the Republic of Albania with which the subject is not affiliated. She is ethnic Albanian, that is true. However the essential demonym when representing notable persons is their state of recongition. Ora is a British subject in exactly the same way that any black or Asian person originating from the UK is. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 September 2012

Rita Sahatciu Ora was not born in Pristina -Republic of Yougoslavia.She was born in Pristina-Republic of Kosovo,because the republic of Yougoslavia doesnt exist anylonger,and Pristina is the capital city of the Republic of Kosovo.

1Ri na ka (talk) 22:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: It looks like Pristina was part of Yugoslavia at the time she was born. I think it should be left alone, but I'll leave this request open for others to weigh in. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 14:32, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 September 2012

Rita Ora is a Albanian/Kosovan singer/songwriter, not a British songwriter or singer.

78.148.151.57 (talk) 14:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Her official web site describes her as British. Rivertorch (talk) 08:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I know her brother Don Ora. He is currently attending Holland Park School in my year, Year 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.144.42 (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Area

I know her brother Don Ora as he currently attends Holland Park School and he is in my grade/year, Year 10 (2012/2013). Also in West London for a certain period of time, they lived opposite Avondale Primary School (side closest to Westfields) in the estate. They currently live closer to the nearest Leisure Centre to Avondale. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous459 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Album Title

It says Albi. i don't think that's official Where's the Source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aphordonte (talk • contribs) 04:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

The album title is called ORA, meaning Time in Kosovan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritaoranews (talk • contribs) 18:21, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

"Kosovan" LMAO you gotta be kiddin' me. There is no "KOSOVAN", there is ALBANIAN. Ora means "time" or "clock" in ALBANIAN. Let me repeat that: ALBANIAN. NOT KOSOVAN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koldproxy (talk • contribs) 21:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC) There is Kosovan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous459 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Struggles

Rita childhood was tough. Her mom was a single mother of three, and they struggle to survive. As she grew up she help her mother in the struggles. Rita became a stripper (exotic dancer). She also sang at the places she performed at. Rita soon become known to different places and people came to watch her perform. Rita started off her career from that experience and she is now known in the uk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.252.126 (talk) 02:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Rita Ora always states she is Albanian, never that she is British. So wiki do not make your own assumptions of her nationality but make it what she states it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.245.56 (talk) 13:36, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 November 2012

rita ora was born in pristina kosovo not to pristina yugoslavia 80.78.77.254 (talk) 21:32, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

• They aren't two different cities, friend. In 1990 it was officially still Yugoslavia.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 21:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
• Not done: per above. –sumone10154^(talk) 21:53, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Good call. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 04:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Language

As this is an article about a British singer, shouldn't it be written in British English. "...for the honor [sic.] of representing...." A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 21:44, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, although I don't see any part that needs to be tweaked for now. ⊾maine12329⊿ talk 12:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

R.I.P. (feat. Tinie Tempah) - EP

I saw that this EP was not included [3] here or in her discography. Should it be? ⊾maine12329⊿ talk 03:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

This is not the only EP by her!See this!!--Nikinikolananov (talk) 18:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2013

Please change Rita Ora's nationality from 'British' to 'Albanian' as she is in fact from Priština, Kosovo.

Not done: Nationality and ethnicity are not the same thing. According to the article Ms. Ora's ethnicity is Albanian but her nationality is British. Also, a person's birthplace and the place s/he identifies as being "from" are not always one and the same. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Associated acts

Should we count Iggy Azalea as an associated act?

1. Iggy and DJ Havana Brown supported Rita on the Ora tour
2. Iggy is supporting Rita on the Radioactive Tour http://www.livenation.co.uk/artist/rita-ora-tickets?c=facebooksponsoredad_ext_ad061212

--Nikinikolananov (talk) 19:02, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Actress?

She appeared as herself on a game show. That doesn't make her an actress. Somebody needs to change that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.233.146 (talk) 04:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Agreed Crystal Clear x3 23:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

A website showing a Fast & Furious 6 trailer says that Rita has an unspecified role in the film [4] Should she be added now as an actress? DepressedPer 5:07, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd say not. An unspecified role doesn't mean she's notable as an actress. (Conversely, if a notable actress collaborated on a song or two, it wouldn't be a great idea to call her a singer.) Rivertorch (talk) 05:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth and other issues

Rita Ora was born in Kosovo to Kosovo-Albanian parents from Prishtina. She moved to West London with the family prior to the war which broke out when she was one; as a result she has adapted to many of 'British' ways, her main influence is Gwen Stefani which is also evident in her appearance. Although, she is a London girl, she is also a very traditional Albanian girl at heart. This is seen in a number of her interviews: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL4vtG0EfZs In this interview Rita also mentions that she is from, Albania, Kosovo from a little city called Prishtina. Like many Albanians, Rita also likes to say that Kosovo and Albania are one nation due to Kosovo's population being over 90% Albanian despite the political status of the two countries. In this interview Rita speaks Albanian - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E_HzjuGyps — Preceding unsigned comment added by Durresaryl1 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 18 March 2012‎

Unfortunately what you are describing here is mostly WP:OR. It may be acceptable to use things she said in interviews to add info on where she was born or whatever if she was explicit but stuff like 'which is also evident in her appearance' and 'she is a London girl, she is also a very traditional Albanian girl at heart' (based on our perceptions of her in interviews) is definitely out. As for her opinion on Kosovo and Albania, I don't know if it's significant enough to add to the article. We definitely can't use it to add or modify info on where she was born. Nil Einne (talk) 22:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Rita Ora always states she is Albanian, never that she is British. So wiki do not make your own assumptions of her nationality but make it what she states it is. Change nationality to Albanian or at the least Kosovar! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.245.56 (talk) 13:38, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

This is a most disgusting attempt at stealing an artists culture and identity to make them part of your own. If you google her the wikipedia info that displays on the side only states she is a british songwriter and her nationality is english..her nationality is Albanian by origin and birth ..british would only come from one way ( her being naturazilized) and that being the case it should say Albanian-british. Fix this and stop attempting to steal artists for your home country it's pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.4.135 (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 June 2013

Can the intro of the article be like that: Rita Sahatçiu Ora (Serbian: Рита Сахачију Ора/Rita Sahačiju Ora; born 26 November 1990) is a Yugoslavian-born British singer-songwriter and actress of Albanian descent. (As she was born in Yugoslavia to Albanian parents.) 178.235.183.165 (talk) 13:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Using the proposed wording in the opening sentence of the article gives undue weight to her ethnicity and country of birth. Rita Ora is notable for being a singer, not for being a Yugoslavian-born British national of Albanian descent. Her ethnicity and nationality are adequately discussed in a lower section and this matter has been extensively discussed on this talk page. If you want to change that you need to establish consensus first. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Serbian???? LOL

It's quite sad how may serbians and macedonian roma (like Evlekis) do their utmost to stick the word "serb" or "serbian" in an article about a woman, who proudly declares herself a Kosovan. Records a video flying the flag of Kosovo, and on numerous occasions speaks out about her true origins. Which have nothing to do with the serbs, who are now desperately clamouring to attribute a slice of her fame and success to their culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.250.240 (talk) 00:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Jay-Z

Can the user Captainmad please stop putting Jay-Z as an "associated act" for Rita Ora? An AA refers to a person or a band you do a music colab with (meaning a song or an album). It has nothing to do with business relationships. Jay-Z is an AA for Rihanna because of "Umbrella" and "Run this town", not because she's under Roc Nation management. Until Jay-Z & Rita Ora do a colab, he's just her boss, not an AA. Izzu11 (talk) 12:01, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I would say that none of the people currently listed as associated acts meet the requirements listed at Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts: I agree with you about Jay-Z, as he's a manager/producer and shouldn't be included under the field's rules, but the others should also be removed under One-time collaboration for a single, or on a single song in the "avoid" section of the rules, unless, of course, they've collaborated with Rita Ora multiple times or released an album together. Acalamari 12:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you up to one point. Yes, they done a single song together, but the notability of that song should be taken into consideration too. On that template it says "significant and notable to this artist's career." "Hot right now" (with Fresh) gave Ora her first ever #1 and "RIP" (with Tinie) was her first #1 as a lead artist and her second #1 all together. It's these 2 colabs that actually put Ora "on the map", not the fact that she was signed to Jay's label. Eventually, I could remove Snoop & Koke from the AA list, as "Torn Apart" is more notable for having Snoop on it than for anything else and "Lay down your weapons" is more relevant for Koke's career than for Ora's. As for Jay-Z, he's not even a manager/producer for Ora, he's just the boss of her label. Basically, other than giving her some music advices and the final "OK" on her music projects, he does nothing else. It's Ty Ty Smith (Jay's partner on Roc Nation) who takes care of business when it comes to Ora's music. Izzu11 (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

ORA singles, Roc Nation, viral videos

ORA only spawned 2 number-one singles, not 3. Rita got credit for Hot Right Now as well, but it's DJ Fresh's song. It's not a part of ORA, it's just a bonus track on it. Also, R.I.P. was her first single from ORA only in UK. The first single from the album to be released anywhere on this planet was How We Do. That A&R who told Roc Nation about Rita was Sarah, her manager from Turn First Artists. She told them about Rita, Rita sent Roc Nation some demos and about a week later Jay Brown called her and asked her to fly to NY, where she was signed to Roc Nation. That's how I know the story. If anybody got a better or more accurate version, feel free to speak up. The only video that she posted on Youtube during the making of her album and that can be called viral is this one. It's the one who eventually got her the part on Hot Right Now, that's why I left it in the article. The other ones were indeed popular with her fans, but at 200.000 views in like 2 years, I wouldn't exactly call them "viral". Izzu11 (talk) 21:55, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Albanian-born

Rita was born in Kosovo, wouldn't that make her Kosovan-born, I would understand it saying Serbian-born instead since some countries recognize Kosovo as being apart of Serbia, but Kosovo wasn't apart of Albania to my knowledge, its just that they speak Albanian there and she has Albanian ancestry. Jjj1238 (talk) 23:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

She was born in Yugoslavia. Serbia or Kosovo didn't exist as nations in 1990. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2002:1F6E:7682:0:0:0:1F6E:7682 (talk) 16:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2014

Goddardscholars (talk) 04:07, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

No change was requested; you need to specify what you want changed in the request. —C.Fred (talk) 04:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 May 2014

(Addition for personal life or modelling section)

Rita Ora's personal stylist is her close friend since teenage years, Kyle De'volle, who has collaborated with luxury scarf label Charlotte Simone on pieces worn by Ora and other stars.

I'm not sure Vogue is a reliable source.--Launchballer 10:23, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Why wouldn't it be? There are other sources too: http://www.stylist.co.uk/people/queen-of-everything-rita-ora#image-rotator-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.86.153.167 (talk) 10:29, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Because they are both gossip websites and lack the fact-checking practices of other sources.--Launchballer 10:35, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

No they're not. Vogue is a fashion magazine established in 1892 and Stylist is a professional magazine for people with fashion occupations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.210.20 (talk) 11:15, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not particularly encyclopedic information though! --Somchai Sun (talk) 12:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

How is it less encyclopedic than mtv.co.uk, which is used as a source for personal info (dating and affinity for Tabasco sauce) in this article? Vogue is a source in many articles (e.g. Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Kate Moss, Jennifer Lawrence etc.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.185.69.17 (talk) 13:43, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

I think Somchai Sun is talking about the information, which appears rather trivial, rather than the source. - Arjayay (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok that's more solid argument than repelling the source, at least until Kyle becomes a bigger name :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.185.69.17 (talk) 20:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 14:11, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Lede

Lede is a summation of the body, and Ora's career encompasses much more than just music. See other bios for similar. Secondly, it was poorly worded and contained duplicate links. I've reverted an unexplained anf unjustified deletion from Helptottt. Carlos Rojjas77 (talk) 20:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

One other aspect that I cleaned up was the use of non BE terminology: I moved the BE tag up to increase visibility for editors,Carlos Rojjas77 (talk) 02:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Carlos Rojas, this is not Simple English Wikipedia. Most of the wording was absolutely fine. You keep undoing my changes without even examining what I changed, I actually left a few of your corrections. You seem to be under the impression that your way is the only correct way by adding unnecessary corrections. "Atop" is not awkward wording. She didn't top the "UK charts", she topped the UK Singles Chart. Please stop undoing my edits for no reason, it's getting a bit silly. --Helptottt (talk) 13:49, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I explained it on talk that the article uses British English ie.words not common in BE (atop), BE grammar (cleaned up awkward wording), and duplicate links were removed. This was undone by you without any justification or edit summary inspite of my explaining it. I accepted not having her acting career, for the time being as Fifty Shades is out soon. I added back her featured appearance in her most notable global chart success to date, as is the case in other music artists such as Chalie XCX, Sam Smith etc etc. Wikipedia is a collective effort where we add material and make edits to improve the encyclopedia.Carlos Rojjas77 (talk) 23:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2015

Ora is currently in a relationship with Tommy Hilfiger's son, Rapper Ricky Hilfiger. http://perezhilton.com/2014-08-07-rita-ora-dating-richard-hilfiger-tommy-hilfiger-son-arrested-rapper-rehab-wow#.VOH84RYnVd0 Eferding (talk) 14:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Closing this request due to lack of communication in responding to a question asked over a week ago. Apparently there is no consensus to make the change as it stands or the request wasn't clear enough either in what needed to be replaced, what the replacement text should be, or why it is beneficial to the encyclopedia to make the change as requested. Feel free to reopen this request when all of the criteria have been met. Thank you, — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 21:20, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2015

origin albanian Urexk8647x (talk) 12:17, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

origin is Albanian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urexk8647x (talk • contribs) 12:20, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done - for the reasons repeatedly explained above - Arjayay (talk) 12:41, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Is Rita Ora a Albanian Gypsy?

She looks like one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.64.135 (talk) 11:31, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure she is not. Her parents are Albanians and there is no indication that either of them is Romani. This is your subjective observation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.64.111 (talk) 12:54, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

She was actually born in Yugoslavia or in Serbian Kosovo - PLEASE UPDATE!

Rita Ora was born in 1990. At the time there was no Albanian-ruled state of Kosovo! Back then Kosovo was Serbian, SO the article should state:

• Ora was born in Pristina, Serbia, to Kosovar-Albanian parents,

or even more actual:

• Ora was born in Pristina, Yugoslavia, to Kosovar-Albanian parents (just like in case of the Arta Dobroshi article).

You cannot deny the FACTS! Why is Wikipedia so anti-Serbian and anti-Slavic? 192.162.150.105 (talk) 09:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

• • I agree.  — Calvin999 11:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Please refer back to the discussions had above and the consensus that was reached. Karst (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Nationality

I think it should say Kosovan-born British artist since she was born in Kosovo and raised in the UK. She has publicly identified herself as British and there are countless other examples of celebs whose profiles are like this when born in other countries. Examples include Sam Worthington "English-born Australian actor", Wentworth Miller "English-born American actor" and Nicki Minaj "Trinidad-born American artist". Rita's profile should follow suit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake279 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

No need for any of that. Birthplace details feature in infobox and can also be placed in brackets by headword. Kosovo is a middle of the range entity concerning her birthplace which was Pristina, SAP Kosovo, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia, so only the first and last details carry significant weight, particularly when considering the status of Kosovo at the time of her birth with its privileges revoked. Even to say Kosovan-born, then Serbia, Yugoslavia is long and pointless. The present situation also demands that all editors handle Kosovo-related matters with extreme caution, never to hint at either being independent or integral within the other state unless absolutely necessary:

1. Anything diplomatic may refer to Republic of Kosovo, such as appointment of ambassador to or by state which recognises Kosovo.
2. Anything pertaining to Belgrade and actions from within the Serb enclaves that observe pre-2008 status may refer to Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija.
3. Anything general or basic concerning the modern-day entity may mention Kosovo (per link to main article) but best to use the template.

Concerning Rita Ora's birth, none of the above applies. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:59, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

In an appearance on the One Show on September 3rd 2015 Rita Ora described herself as Albanian and referred to it as 'in my country' 'promoting my country' etc. She made it very clear on this UK TV programme that as far as she is concerned she is Albanian. She has official duel nationality and is an official celebrity ambassador of Albania, appointed by it's president. I would say that her nationality should be described as Albanian-British. Captainbeecher (talk) 18:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps - it would need a better reference then some chat show though. Karst (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Origin : London,England?

I propose to remove that line since it is absent in every other celebrity article.So either remove it or change it to Kosovo since origin = place of birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixious6 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2015

Please correct the sentence under 'Personal Life' relating to Rita's involvemet with Richard Hilfiger. According to the reference it was Ricky Hil, a different person. There does not seem to be a wiki page for Ricky Hil at present.

Change...

"She broke up with Richard Hilfiger in July 2015 after a one-year relationship."

to...

"She broke up with Ricky Hil in July 2015 after a one-year relationship."

Mg169706 (talk) 12:23, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Partly done: They are actually the same person, the cited source says "Ricky Hil, Tommy Hilfiger's son", and if you look at Tommy_Hilfiger#Personal_life, his son is listed as "Richard (Ricky)". But the way the wikilink is set up currently is somewhat confusing, so I have reworded the sentence Cannolis (talk) 12:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2015

Please change Rita Sahatçiu Ora (born Rita Sahatçiu; 26 November 1990) is a British singer and actress. to Rita Sahatçiu Ora (born Rita Sahatçiu; 26 November 1990) is a British singer, actress, model and fashion designer because she's modelled for a lot of things, she's modelled for adidas, glamour magazine, teen vogue magazing, elle magazing and more. She put together some of the adidas original clothes, in which lots of celebrities have worn, ie Beyonce, sereyah and one of the kardashians in which she posted on instagram.

She help put these together(fashion designer): http://www.adidas.com/us/rita_ora She models a lot : https://models.com/people/rita-ora

94.13.149.7 (talk) 17:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done: The lead should cover what she is principally known for, and is currently accurate. -- ferret (talk) 18:37, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2015

change birth origin to kosovo. she was born in kosovo not SFR Yugoslavia. 2.110.209.166 (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: The footnote explains this sufficiently. Cannolis (talk) 20:44, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2016

96.59.3.58 (talk) 23:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC) Her origin is Pristina, Kosovo not London, United Kingdom. She is one Albanian-British singer. She speaks Albanian, she is a Kosovar Albanian. This is true, please correct this.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Topher385 (talk) 11:02, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2017

Aelk11 (talk) 17:52, 22 February 2017 (UTC)I think I can also add that Rita Ora is from Albania.

 Not done - as the article states she is from Pristina, SFR Yugoslavia, which she left in 1991.
Although Pristina is now in Kosovo, a disputed territory, Kosovo did not exist until after she left, so she is not from Kosovo or Albania - Arjayay (talk) 19:28, 22 February 2017 (UTC).

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Voice and influences edit

In the second sentence under the 'Voice and influences' section it says "Ora has became friends with Beyonce". Either remove 'has' or change it to 'become' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.89.28 (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Kosovar/Albanian origins in lead

COnsidering she was born to Albanian parents in Kosovo, would it be reasonable to make the origins in the lead 'Albanian-British' or 'Kosovar-British'? Munci (talk) 22:35, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

yes consider the page for Dua lipa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dua_Lipa ( 08/12/2017) that states "an English/Albanian singer, songwriter and model."

using the same syntax Ora is a English\Kosovar singer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinc565 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Sigh ... saatçi is a semitic word, not Turkish

Cf. sha'a in Hebrew. The surname Saatchi is used by Iraqi Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.119.61 (talk) 17:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

"saatçi" is also a Turkish word, though. Considering both Albania and Kosovo were a part of Ottoman Empire (Turkish Empire) for centuries, it is very likely that the origin of her surname is indeed Turkish. --78.0.192.29 (talk) 03:12, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

On the etymology of "ωρα" > "ora" ~ Ancient Greek not Albanian. Etymology From Proto-Indo-European *yeh₁- (“year, season”). Alternative forms ὥρη (hṓrē) (Ionic) Pronunciation [more ▼] IPA(key): /hɔ̌ː.raː/ → /ˈo.ra/ → /ˈo.ra/ Noun ὥρᾱ • (hṓrā) f (genitive ὥρας); first declension any defined period of time season (in plural): climate year time of day hour some specific time: right time, time for something time of life: youth Inflection [show ▼]First declension of ὥρᾱ, ὥρᾱς Descendants Greek: ώρα (óra) Latin: hōrā References ὥρα in Liddell & Scott (1940) A Greek–English Lexicon, Oxford: Clarendon Press ὥρα in Liddell & Scott (1889) An Intermediate Greek–English Lexicon, New York: Harper & Brothers «ὥρα» in Bailly, Anatole (1935) Le Grand Bailly: Dictionnaire grec-français, Paris: Hachette Bauer, Walter et al. (2001) A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, Third edition, Chicago: University of Chicago Press ὥρα in Slater, William J. (1969) Lexicon to Pindar, Berlin: Walter de Gruyter “G5610”, in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance to the Bible, 1979 Woodhouse, S. C. (1910) English–Greek Dictionary: A Vocabulary of the Attic Language[1], London: Routledge & Kegan Paul Limited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.194.236 (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Ancient Greek Alternative forms ὥρη (hṓrē) – Ionic Etymology From Proto-Indo-European *yeh₁- (“year, season”).

Pronunciation

IPA(key): /hɔ̌ː.raː/ → /ˈo.ra/ → /ˈo.ra/ Noun ὥρᾱ • (hṓrā) f (genitive ὥρᾱς); first declension

any defined period of time season (in plural): climate year time of day hour some specific time: right time, time for something time of life: youth Inflection First declension of ἡ ὥρᾱ; τῆς ὥρᾱς (Attic) Derived terms ὡρολογέω (hōrologéō) ὡροσκοπέω (hōroskopéō) Descendants Greek: ώρα (óra) → Latin: hōra (see there for further descendants) → Sanskrit: होरा (horā) Tsakonian: ούρα Further reading ὥρα in Liddell & Scott (1940) A Greek–English Lexicon, Oxford: Clarendon Press ὥρα in Liddell & Scott (1889) An Intermediate Greek–English Lexicon, New York: Harper & Brothers ὥρα in Bailly, Anatole (1935) Le Grand Bailly: Dictionnaire grec-français, Paris: Hachette Bauer, Walter et al. (2001) A Greek–English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, Third edition, Chicago: University of Chicago Press ὥρα in Slater, William J. (1969) Lexicon to Pindar, Berlin: Walter de Gruyter “G5610”, in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance to the Bible, 1979 Woodhouse, S. C. (1910) English–Greek Dictionary: A Vocabulary of the Attic Language‎[1], London: Routledge & Kegan Paul Limited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.235.88 (talk) 07:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2018

On her location on where she grew up it says she grew up near Portobello Road. although correct to be more specific she grew up in Ladbroke Grove, West London which is just down the road from the Portobello market. she has also stated this many times herself.. Anon88888 (talk) 00:45, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor 11:05, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done EvergreenFir (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Serbia, not Kosovo

Kosovo is a Serbian province, not an UN member state, so respect it please. Also back to year she was born, it was definitely Serbia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.135.71.55 (talk) 22:37, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Her Healthy Celeb Page Has The Flag of Kosovo. That Should Be Changed Into The UK Flag.

I always go to a website named Healthy Celeb to see how celebrities (either famous or non-famous) look. Every time I search her up on it, the Kosovo flag is under the Nationality section instead of the UK flag.

That should be changed because she is fully British. No one wants to see a Ukraine flag on Mila Kunis page since she is completely American.

Anyways, with lots of love,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 12:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Images

The use of images in this article is very poor, which I struggle to understand given that there are multiple, high quality images of Ora in the Wikimedia Commons. The current lead image is horrible, you can barely make out any of Ora's physical characteristics. As a descriptive image of her it flunks. I changed the lead image and added a couple more from the commons, but @Helptottt: came in and immediately reverted it, for unclear reasons. These are readily available images of Ora plucked from the commons that would greatly enhance this article and I think should be included in some capacity. Reattacollector (talk) 02:13, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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  File:Rita Ora 2, 2012.jpg
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  File:Rita Ora 2018.jpg
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  File:Rita Ora 2012.jpg

Ok, I don't know why the other three are not showing up. Reattacollector (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I disagree, the lead image is fine. She's a singer and it shows her performing, and her "physical characteristics" are perfectly visible. I'll add the 2018 picture in the "second album" section. --Helptottt (talk) 09:00, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

A quarter of her face is obscured by the microphone and stand and the lighting is very dark, image has a blue tint to it. By just about any encyclopedic standard, it fails miserably. I don't understand how it makes a better lead image than some of the other much higher quality candidates, such as Rita Ora I Love Gjakova 2014 cropped.jpg. Reattacollector (talk) 01:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@Reattacollector: I totally agree with you and I faced the same problem in the past when some user (not sure if it was Helptottt) reverted my image change even tho any photo would be better then THAT one. Nevertheless, I found IMO a much better picture which I hope will stay. Best. ArturSik (talk) 02:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Right. All my edits were reverted again so I won't even bother with this article. Helptottt seems to think that only he is right and he knows best although other users would probably agree with me that he's not. I hope that administrators will take care of that. ArturSik (talk) 17:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't think that I'm only right, people edit the article normally. And why do you assume that I'm a "he"? I'm a girl editor (with a neutral username). I reverted your edits because you've, unnecessarily, re-written parts of it and added singles from her supposed "unreleased album with Roc Nation" when that's already covered in the article (twice). The image you tried to post was just not better than the current one. --Helptottt (talk) 16:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Music of Southeastern Europe (the Balkans)

Please someone registered add {{Music of Southeastern Europe (the Balkans)}} because she is included among notable musicians in this nav template. Thanks. --5.43.78.219 (talk) 03:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Bisexuality

Just saw this, this and this. Because the bisexual topic will keep coming up, it's clear that this matter needs to be discussed here on the talk page. The edit by Afddiary looks decent, except for this source, which seems like a poor source. Are sources stating that Ora came out as bisexual when she didn't? Are any WP:Reliable sources stating that she came out as bisexual, but the reality is that she didn't say she's bisexual? In a similar case, as seen at Talk:Jodie Foster/Archive 4, there was a lot of debate about how to describe Foster's sexuality and what categories to use for her in the Jodie Foster article. I'll alert WP:LGBT to this Ora matter in case anyone there wants to weigh in on it. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:46, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

And to respond to Helptottt's revert here, yes, just like many other biography articles where the person's sexuality is included, her sexuality does belong in this article. That is, as long as it's relevant enough to mention because of its coverage in WP:Reliable sources. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:58, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

All references to Rita Ora's sexuality (which, as many sources seem to suggest, is some variation of non-heterosexual) have been removed from the article, including from her categories. I think this is inappropriate. I agree with Flyer22 Reborn that her sexuality DOES belong in the article in some way, shape, or form because it is relevant to her personal life. Maybe it does not need to be a category (although I would argue that it should be one), but it absolutely should be referenced somehow. The article for Ariana Grande should be used as inspiration - putting the discussion about it out there without forcing a personally unclaimed label onto her. Afddiary (talk) 12:22, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

For ease of access, this is what Ariana's article currently says about her sexuality: "In April 2019, following the release of a song titled "Monopoly" with Victoria Monét, Grande revealed that she does not label her sexuality, stating "I haven't before and still don't feel the need to now" amidst rumors of bisexuality after lyrics referencing her liking both women and men." Afddiary (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

TrynaMakeADollar added some material with this edit. I also see that Helptottt reverted bisexual material again, but that Helptottt was reverted by Launchballer. And regarding this? I reverted because, like I stated, people don't belong in those categories. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 03:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I didn't realize that there was an old discussion about this topic that existed. Anyway, I absolutely think that her bisexual orientation belongs in the "Personal life" section and in my opinion it would be absurd to suggest otherwise. Celebrities who are part of the LGBT community usually have their sexual orientation in their article. Not sure why Helptottt keeps reverting it. Perhaps they could weigh in on this discussion. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 05:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Her sexuality may be non-heterosexual, but perhaps Ora doesn't want to be defined by her sexuality because she never actually said that she was bisexual and how she chooses to label herself is the most important thing here. It's absurd that some editors are trying to dictate how she should be labelled. Also, the added quote where Ora says how she was "experimental in her late teens" frankly suggests a more bi-curious situation. Putting the quote into context, it was kind of an "explanation" of the lyrics of that song, "Girls", that she released. The added references aren't from a tabloid, but those articles basically present their own interpretations (and labels) of what she said. LGBT categories should stay, but adding how she "came out as bisexual" is not true and shouldn't be in the article. --Helptottt (talk) 19:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2020

Pristina is not in Serbia. Its in Kosovo , and Kosovo its not a part of Serbia. 185.67.177.220 (talk) 18:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

We would use the place of birth as it was named (and the territories it was in) at the time of birth. Though, I'm not sure of the designation of Pristina in 1990, so I'll leave this open for someone more familiar on that matter. ProcrasinatingReader (talk) 02:57, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: At the time, as far as I can see, Kosovo was not independent (and would not be so until well after the conflict that rocked the region shortly thereafter), and was therefore indeed part of Serbia within Yugoslavia. Its present status has, of course, changed, but ass PR points out, we use the place of birth as it was called at the time. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Age and date of birth

Hello, we must also pay attention to age and date. Because she is currently 30 so i'm going to change it.Gerd1414 (talk) 15:01, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Rita Ora apologises for breaking England lockdown with party in restaurant

• https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown

John Cummings (talk) 13:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Covid fine?

The 'Personal life' section says: "In November 2020, Ora paid a fine to the local authorities for breaking lockdown rules by attending her birthday party at a West London restaurant during COVID-19 restrictions.[114][115][116] " but of the cited references the first makes no mention of any fine, the second says she paid it voluntarily, and the third says she'll probably avoid paying a fine but the venue may have to. Well, which of these versions should the article state? JezGrove (talk) 00:10, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2020

Remove the following line as |home_town= is not a supported {{infobox person}} parameter:

| home_town = [[London]], England, United Kingdom
– 108.56.139.120 (talk) 05:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done --TheImaCow (talk) 07:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2021

Please revert this edit as |home_town= is not a supported {{infobox person}} parameter. – 108.56.139.120 (talk) 00:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done MadGuy7023 (talk) 01:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Main Image

i must be completely honest, thst picture is horrible. There is a more updated and better image we could use but i cant understand why we cant use it. Can someone please explain why we cant change the image LaVozSA (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

30th birthday party

@Helptottt: Your justification for removing this has no basis in policy. It is sourced to the BBC and the exact same details have been reported by every major news organisation today: The Guardian, Sky News The Independent ITV (I could go on). Please explain why you think that despite this coverage in multiple reliable sources you think that this should not be included. SmartSE (talk) 23:11, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Lennon or McCartney - 2014 Canadian documentary short film

Rita appeared in the 2014 Canadian documentary short film Lennon or McCartney which is not mentioned in the film section.

reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennon_or_McCartney#:~:text=Lennon%20or%20McCartney%20is%20a,John%20Lennon%20or%20Paul%20McCartney. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:312E:C400:29A5:3C2F:5E:8A1C (talk) 09:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Nationality

The article describes her as English, but says she was born in what is now Johnatill (talk) 00:36, 7 December 2019 (UTC)Kosovo to Albanian parents. She is no doubt British but I don't see how she can be English?Johnatill (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Albanian J20090 (talk) 06:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Just leave the nationality off the lead. Belevalo (talk) 12:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2021

Gorge-AG (talk) 17:00, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Add dates to the career segment

Ok Gorge-AG (talk) 17:00, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. @Gorge-AG: Please can you be a bit clearer with the changes you want to be made, as in changing X to Y or adding Y next to X? That'd make it a lot easier to editors to fulfill your edit request. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 17:27, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2021

Please add following text at end of section on album Phoenix: Rita recorded 2 songs with Prince between 2013 and summer of 2014 that were originally slated for her second album, which later became known as Phoenix: "Ain't About To Stop" () and "The Single Most Amazing" (). Phoenix was postponed from September 2014 until November 2018, after Prince's death, and those tracks were ultimately not included. Prince released a version of "Ain't About To Stop" on his own 38th studio album Hitnrun Phase One in 2015 that still included backing vocals by Rita. "The Single Most Amazing" remains unreleased. Dmsr89 (talk) 13:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Princevault is user editable, and thusly not a reliable source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

References

Nationality (2)

I do believe we should refer to her as a Kosovan born British singer as she herself refers to herself as Kosovan. Anyone else have any opinions? LaVozSA (talk) 21:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

MOS:CONTEXTBIO: "previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability". How being born in SFR Yugoslavia has impacted her career? (CC) Tbhotch^™ 22:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2022

change Pristina, Yugoslavia to Pristina, Kosovo 2A02:678:612:D200:F4B0:6C50:8C9B:70EB (talk) 11:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Current wording where it acknowledges that at the time of her birth it was Yugoslavia seems better Cannolis (talk) 12:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Protection

I have decided not to unprotect the page as of today, as the article is still being heavily edited, and there are few edit requests on the talk page, and those have not been actioned. I suspect an edit war will break out over whether she is Albanian, Kosovan, or Yugoslavian. It is best to discuss anything controversial on this talk page. You can ask for a second official opinion at WP:RFPP. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

October 2022

Now here Helptottt, what are you concerns? You are continuously being reverted for your disruptive behaviour. This article has to undergo an update with reliable sources and a clear structure. Iaof2017 (talk) 20:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

The article already has a good structure AND reliable sources. Better question would be, what are your concerns? I get that you may be Albanian, but hyper-fixating on Rita Ora's articles and inflating them with unnecessary (and often badly written) edits isn't helping anyone. Helptottt (talk) 20:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I know what I'm doing on Wikipedia [5], so you better save your disrespectful behaviour! What has my origin to do with this? I hoped that we would find a common solution, but I already realize that it will not come to any. Iaof2017 (talk) 20:50, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2022

Rita Ora married Taika Waititi In Summer 2022. Source: Rita Ora in People Magazine 138.88.251.44 (talk) 06:52, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion 138.88.251.44. I have added a sentence and a spouse in the infobox. Can anyone see reliable evidence that she has changed her name to Rita Waititi-Ora? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:32, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

There is no evidence that she changed her last name. That rumor was started by a tabloid (The Sun). Helptottt (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

COVID lockdown breaches

There should be references to her involvement in multiple COVID lockdown breaches, eg. [6] - 115.70.22.155 (talk) 14:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

They were here but they are so poorly written that the following statement apparently was relevant for Ora's life: "Boris Johnson's official spokesperson criticised Ora; however, it was later revealed that Johnson himself also broke the lockdown rules, several times". This is Wikipedia, not the Daily Mail. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 16:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

This is exactly what I thought. I came to Wikipedia looking to see if Ora was the one who had broken the law. The relevance of other breaches by other individuals is questionable? Surely it should be sufficient to reference the breach, and perhaps refer to the subsequent loss of licence by the restaurant paid to breach the law as seen here (link): [7] Stuartwilks (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree that the information about Johnson is irrelevant so removed it. I also have reinstated an old version which explains the events in more detail. SmartSE (talk) 21:22, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

@Stuartwilks: Somehow we had omitted that Ora paid a £10k fine until now. Hopefully adding that makes it clearer that she did break the law. SmartSE (talk) 09:57, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

It seems the article is much clearer now. Cheers! Stuartwilks (talk) 21:20, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

The restaurant didn't lose the licence, it was suspended for six weeks (link). It's working normally (link). Boris Johnson's breaches were included because he criticised Ora through his spokesperson, after and before he breached the lockdown himself (link). Helptottt (talk) 09:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Helptottt: See WP:METRO - it is not a reliable source. Even with another source, I have doubts about the relevance of including it as it is just whataboutism. Your version also contains classic WP:SYNTH - [8] and [9] are before partygate and [10] was written before Johnson was fined, hence there is no source to support Johnson himself broke the lockdown rules several times. Many people criticised Ora about the breach but we shouldn't be trying to include every last detail. SmartSE (talk) 09:57, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

I posted the Metro article just to illustrate that the Johnson breaches connection was made elsewhere, that it wasn't a random connection made in this Wikipedia article. Helptottt (talk) 11:31, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh and "several times" is definitely wrong and a BLP violation since Johnson was only fined once. SmartSE (talk) 10:00, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree with your inclusion of the fine Ora got, but the restaurant's suspension is out of place here and it should be removed. The suspension is the restaurant's responsibility. Helptottt (talk) 11:41, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Women's Rugby World Cup performance

Ora's performance at this event doesn't seem notable enough to be added to the article, it wasn't even televised! An editor that added it mentioned a connection to Taika Waititi, since he introduced her before the performance. Since Ora and Waititi will co-host the MTV Europe Music Awards this month, I suggest we add the information about them co-hosting the EMAs instead of the rugby event. Helptottt (talk) 16:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Besim Sahatçiu

The film, TV and theatre director Besim Sahatçiu is her grandfather. Besim, who died in 2005, was well-respected in his field and in 2018, Kosovo's Ministry of Culture posthumously honoured him with a Lifetime Achievement Award for Cinematography. That year, a street in the city Prishtina was named after him.

https://www.capitalfm.com/news/dua-lipa-rita-ora-https://www.capitalfm.com/news/dua-lipa-rita-ora-grandfather-photo/-photo/ 91.54.3.237 (talk) 13:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

That information belongs to his page. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Marriage

Many edits referring to marriage to Taika Waititi have been reverted, mostly by User:Helptottt.

Rita is orriginally from Kossivo. The marriage is now routinely being reported as fact by New Zealand's main newspapers, Stuff and The New Zealand Herald. Both are "reliable sources" for Wikipedia, with professional fact-checking standards.

The most recent example describes her as Adopted “New Zealander” British pop star Rita Ora (who is married to Kiwi film-maker Taika Waititi).

I formally propose that the married status be accepted by Wikipedia. All users, please comment here on whether you *support* or *oppose* the change. Please give citations if you can. Unless there is consensus *not* to accept the marriage, i will add it as fact to Rita Ora and Taika Waititi after 16 October 2022. Somej (talk) 00:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

I've added two reliable sources for this. SmartSE (talk) 21:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I'm aware that the marriage story is reported by the NZ media. However, they are reporting it in their entertainment section and are going by what the rumor is. According to the story, the marriage happened in the UK, so it's unusual that we would take the NZ media as the confirmation.

The point is, there hasn't been a solid confirmation. More importantly, the two supposedly married people haven't confirmed it. Until they do, it shouldn't be in the article. The Taika Waititi article completely leaves out this marriage information, so why the insistence for it to be added here? Helptottt (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

They married in August 2022, but declined to confirm the rumours until January 2023. Somej (talk) 00:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

References

Marriage

Is the marriage claim reliably sourced with the People article? Shouldn't we take into account that neither Ora or Waititi confirmed this rumour? On Waititi's article, the marriage addition got removed for WP:BLPGOSSIP.

Also, from a recent article by stuff.co.nz: "Rita Ora has starred on The Jonathan Ross Show, where she gushed about her partner, Kiwi filmmaker Taika Waititi – but avoided calling him her husband." Helptottt (talk) 17:14, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

January 2023: Ora has confirmed they married in August 2022. Finally! Somej (talk) 00:33, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

The marriage was confirmed, but not that they got married in August. The article just mentions that the rumours appeared at that time.--Helptottt (talk) 10:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

References

Edit semi-protected

Please add in the Personal life section that she is fluent in Albanian. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2015/12/99080/rita-ora-new-2016-album-interview 2600:100C:A21B:9ED1:21C9:4114:A7E9:DFF7 (talk) 16:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 09:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

References

Isn’t she Ashkali ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.55.211 (talk) 20:34, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Nationality

Please correct her nationality to English and Serbian as “Kosovo” is recognized by less than half of the world as a independent country. 172.101.33.158 (talk) 01:44, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Less than half of me recognizes this a trolling request. Binksternet (talk) 02:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Rita Ora X Primark

There is no mention of Rita Ora X Primark. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:47, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Helptottt. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Why is this still protected since 2012?

Graeme Bartlett - doesn't stale apply here? 82.13.47.210 (talk) 23:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Well I still consider this article at risk of edit wars and disputes that should first be resolved on the talk page. I still keep an eye on it. Perhaps I can un-protect it in a couple of weeks time and see what happens. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks - I was just passing by.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 11:25, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Well if you are still around with constructive edits, I can attempt an unprotect. Are you still paying attention 82.13.47.210? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

This article should definitely stay protected because the risk of edit disputes is very high, especially regarding Ora's birth place and nationality... and more. Helptottt (talk) 19:03, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2023

Rita Ora is from Kosovo Albania not Kosovo United Kingdom 2001:8003:2533:6D00:4F7:3045:286D:63D (talk) 08:59, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Unclear request. Consensus was reached on nationality, see above. Declined. Karst (talk) 10:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Refugee

Rita was a Refugee @Rita ora 2A02:C7E:27CB:3600:3D85:D6A6:180:DB13 (talk) 17:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)