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Clarification
Hi, I'm well aware Wikipedia is not a link repository; can somebody show me a better way to list the other famous Robin Williams'? Thanks! Harris7 22:53, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I've changed the page. If two people have the same name sometimes incorporating middle names into the page title can be useful, alternatively a link to Robin Williams (designer) can be just as effective. A good example of multiple names is the Peter Taylor disambiguity page. SimonMayer 23:26, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Diambiguation needed
There is another notable Robin Williams, a female writer and designer - author of The Non-Designer's Design Book, The Pc is Not a Typewriter, among others. [1]
Being extremely hairy?
Comon guys, I know he probably would've gotten a kick out of it...but "Because he is extremely hairy, many jokes about him refer to that."? Now if there was a joke that someone can cite, or if he himself can verify this sure, but otherwise it's heresay and not really part of a good article (btw that was me making the edit I just forgot to sign in) :P -Moocats 16:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Actually I saw him joke about his hairyness in a PBS dolphin documentary.
- He also joked about his hairyness on his Inside the Actor's Studio appearance as well as his cameo on Carlos Mencia's show. ALKIVAR™ 01:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- He also made a joke about it on Robin Williams: Live on Broadway a few times, if I recall correctly. His Ryanness 00:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
He makes a joke about seeing a monkey in a zoo and the monkey saying something like "hey what's with the simian on the outside" or something like that. Rfwoolf 17:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
On video games
Just a suggestion, and I like video games just as much as the next recovering Civilization addict... maybe the tidbits about what games RW likes to play would be better under a similar section on the pages of the individual video games? There are probably many more games out there (or various other products for that matter) that he enjoys, but would it be important to list them all on the Robin Williams page? Tranio24 07:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
On the Warhammer 40,000 reference, I've heard it said several times that Williams does indeed play, but do we have any sources for this? 88.110.69.40 00:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Was it true that Robin Williams plays on World of Warcraft as Jett on Mannoroth server? I know it said citation needed but if it is true that awesome. (ACC)
Yea, im on Mannoroth and in <iconoclast> and Jett definitely is Robin Williams... I attribute our downing of C'thun to his humor and to the cast iron dictator he can be... But it is him, he just hates to be randomly annoyed by people. HawkShark 03:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Self references are not allowed here. See WP:SELF. --Zeno McDohl 01:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- Just because someone in your guild claims to be Robin Williams, doesn't mean they are Robin Williams. Unless you've been to a real-life guild meeting or have some other valid proof of this, I think it's more likely to assume Williams is not Jett on Mannoroth. It's fairly well known that he is a gamer, but I would imagine that he would be inclined to keep his identity secret if he were playing WoW... it's not really that fun to get constant random tells, etc.--Caliga10 12:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Jewish?
I read on wiki that he was Jewish. What is that about?
JJstroker 10:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
He is not Jewish, but Episcopalian. He makes several references to this fact in his comedy. The mistaken reference to him being Jewish most likely stems from his close friendship to Whoopi Goldberg who is, in fact, Jewish.
Tronk 00:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I have just removed the reference to his recently becoming a Christian. I can find no reference to this anywhere else on the web. But if somebody else can, please put it back! --Slp1 00:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I heard about his recently becoming a Christian from two quite reliable sources within my own denomination...as he'd been attending a church in New York in the denomination (and visiting one while filming in Canada)...but there are no reliable written references that I can find yet! --BeautifulMess 02:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I also thought he was Jewish, I'm sure I heard somewhere that he was Jewish, but maybe I've just been fooled by his mannerisims?? Also I don't think Whoopi Goldberg is Jewish?? See her article. --loren3 23:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
True or False?
I was watching something not long ago with Williams on it and he said that at High School he was voted "Most Likely Not To Succeed". Maybe I'm wrong. Mr. Turcotte 21:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Having Herpes
Seriously, Robin Williams has herpes, and it is crazy that this would be taken off. Is wikipedia trying to protect Robin Williams reputation at the expense of all of the cheap floozies who think they will get a part in "Toys 2" by having sex with him? RISE ABOVE THIS EDITORS OF WIKIPEDIA AND SPEAK THE TRUTH
Check out this link about his herpes
- Just because he "forked over" the money doesn't mean he has it. --Zeno McDohl 22:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
career launched in porn?
this might not be true, or it might be a rumour started after his relationship with christi canyon...but i have heard that williams got his start in the adult film industry. can anyone prove or disprove this? regardless, ive already spread this rumour to several other people, but id at least like to know if it were true. Strawberryfire 02:10, 25 May 2006
- He currently is involved with the movie "One thousand Nights at Baghdad", now in its second part. A sadistic sort of cinema financed by the usual suspects and supported by the usual idiots of the media and entertainment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.19.186.138 (talk) 21:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
Controversy?
Should there be a controversy section about Williams' reputation as a joke thief? He is a notorious thief in the comedy community. Google search "joke thief" and he is the first page that comes up. [3] is a website that cites a few sources and quotes from other comedians...There was a famous instance of Williams stealing a Ray Romano joke about having cell phones implanted in your head, call waiting in each ear, and a fax coming out your ass; Williams used the joke on Letterman. I havent been able to find the actual proof, but from what Ive seen on several sources, it was nearly word for word the same bit Romano had performed 12 years earlier.Atticus2020 06:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is not actually Romano's joke either. It's been performed by other comics as well. SidP 07:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ray Romano’s no comedic genius… Anyway, yeah; I guess within the next few days I’ll be bold and throw a Criticism section in there. Wiki Wikardo 21:45, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Filmography format?
Hmm, after I added a bunch of character names to the table of his films, I realized that other actors don't have that style listing. Check out Forest Whitaker for the format that seems most common. Thinking that it should be changed, but wanted to get some feedback. -- MrDolomite 16:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh, it turns out that as usual, WP has been there and done that. See Wikipedia_talk:Filmographies and Wikipedia:Filmographies -- MrDolomite 19:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
SCA Knight?
In 26 years in the Society for Creative Anachronism, I've never heard a mention of Robin Williams being a member, and I'm pretty sure that's somebody's idea of a joke. It's hard to see how Mr. Williams would ever have had time, given a very busy career, to participate in the SCA, let alone gain knighthood in that organization.
- Deleted reference to SCA, as it wasn't referenced anywhere, and I could find nothing after looking on-line to show that it was true. 67.176.60.82 01:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Coke habit?
Isn't it well known that he had a coke habit while he was doing Mork & Mindy? Even it's just a rumor, perhaps it should be mentioned here. Or is that too tabloidy?
Xzqx 20:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is no place for rumors. Iolakana•T 14:33, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- Robin Williams was one of the last people to see John Belushi the night he died, and did some coke with him according to Bob Woodwards "Wired : The Short Life and Fast Times of John Belushi". In Empire Magazine, June 1996, Williams talks about how Belushi's death inspired/shocked him to get clean from drugs. Belushi died in 82, Mork and Mindy ended in 82, so yes, he was on coke for most of the run of the show. Static Universe 23:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Rumor?!? Williams himself has admitted his early drug use on a number of occasions. He even mocked it and himself in early 1980s comedy routines (the famous "captain herbal life" joke and others). So even a cursory examination of reputable Hollywood record and Williams own admission will show it isn't a rumor.Yanqui9 17:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Aladdin vandalism
Vandals keep popping up in this article (and any others related to the movie) adding misinformation- particularly that Williams played Genie in Return of Jafar. This is false- he was Genie in the original and the final. --Wafulz 23:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
As a further clarification, Dan Castellaneta (Voice of Homer Simpson on The Simpsons) was the voice of Genie in Return of Jafar, several direct to video series including Aladdin's Arabian Adventures: Creatures of Invention, Aladdin's Arabian Adventures: Fearless Friends, Aladdin's Arabian Adventures: Magic Makers, Aladdin's Arabian Adventures: Team Genie while Williams in addition to being the voice of Genie in the Aladdin movie reconciled with Disney and then did the voice of Genie in an Aladdin video game called Aladdin's Math Quest and a TV special Disney's Aladdin on Ice as well as direct to video titles Aladdin and the King of Thieves, This is per the Internet Movie Database credit listings for Williams and Castellaneta. User:Misterrick 20:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Juilliard
I know that Robin Williams attended Juilliard, it is already mentioned in the article, but what about his expulsion? I've actually heard him mention his expulsion although I don't know why he was expelled. If anyone can help find a citation I think that would make a good addition to the article. --Rockerflutist1 19:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Christopher Reeve's Medical Bills
It should at least be addressed that there is a long standing rumor that Williams helped Reeve after the riding accident with paying for medical expenses. Depending on where you read it is either listed as truth, fiction, or rumor. Williams' bio at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/bio under "Trivia" has an entry for this. If he helped Chris out (which I like to think he did) I think it's wonderful.
Citation & Clarification
Would someone clarify the statement on the page about Robin Williams is Al Pacino's idol? --Yancyfry jr 03:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a citation needed link on the line "Williams was a close friend and frequent partier alongside John Belushi." but the Belushi article lists Williams as present at the time of his death by drug overdose. Then next lines quote William's appearance on Inside the Actor's Studio where he refers to Belushi as a friend. I'm going to remove the citation needed unless there is an objection. Mra 15:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Siblings?
I've heard that Robin Williams has half-brothers, any photos of them?68.57.186.163 14:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Sharon 11-25-05
Turret's Syndrome???
My wife toled me (seriously) that Robin Williams suffers from Turret's syndrom....
True or false???
- I presume you mean Tourettes? And no, as far as I can determine he doesn't suffer from it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.192.37.30 (talk) 15:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
I say FALSE!
thanks!
Charity Work
He has done a recent commercial with kids with cancer. -Yancyfry 06:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Bipolar Disorder
There's a giant rumor going around the Mental Health community that Robin Williams once said in an interview that he was diagnosed at an early age with Bipolar disorder. Supposedly, he also said he refused medication because he liked the effect a manic upswing and high energy had on his comedy. I have never seen, nor can I find, such an interview. However, a CNN article quotes him as saying (following his stint in rehab) simply "Club medicated"[[4]]. As a fairly successful person with Bipolar disorder myself, it would be nice if a gentle allusion were made to this. Since I am too close, I won't comment on this page, nor will I attempt to write this myself. NinaEliza (talk • contribs • logs) 03:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Middle Name
i know for a fact his middle name is Mclaurim. not mclaurin.The mitten man 03:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC) The Mitten Man
- And your source for that fact would be ..... ?? JackofOz 03:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
his biography by andy dougan and several interviews in which he said so himself. T he Mitten Man
- How come it has both on the article page??? ! WikiDon 20:33, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Scotland?
I read somewhere the Williams spent some time in the (early?) 1970's in Dundee in Scotland? Is this true?
Correction required
I read the article and there's something wrong in the "Early stand-up/TV career" section. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Robin Williams to be able to fix it. The complete sentence reads "After studying at Claremont McKenna College (then called Claremont Men's College) with the Strut and Fret theatre group in Claremont, California.". There's something missing! - Lyverbe 13:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
birth year
i'm pretty sure he was born in 1952 but alot of people say it was 1951. Can someone help me? The mitten man 07:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC) The Mitten Man
- http://www.robin-williams.net/ -->Site-->FAQ says it was 1951, not 1952 74.102.178.223 15:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Does his biography have that information? It would make life much easier.... --Wafulz 18:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
his biography by Andy Dougan says he was born in 1952 but eveyone else seems to think it was 1951 so i was wondering if maybe the biography could be wrong.69.141.70.165 16:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)The Mitten Man
- Yes, the biography is wrong. I'm not a big Williams fan but I'm here because there's a lot of vandalism to it (for some unknown reason) and I help keeping the article clean. I did a quick and easy research on his fan site and found this article: http://robin-williams.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=467&sid=51772138c56795738d19064299eca61b. According to it, it was his 55th birthday July 21, 2006 and hundreds of people agree. That would make it 1951. If anyone doesn't agree with this, discuss it HERE and leave the article as is until an agreement has been reached. An article is not a fight zone. -- Lyverbe 12:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- This "article" is a forum post. Since when is an online forum more reliable than his biographer? The fansite provides no justification other than "he is wrong and we are right". The book is more verifiable since it was written by a biographer and had extensive editorial oversight. It doesn't matter if "hundreds of people agree". I could make a forum post and have hundreds of people agree that he loves cha-cha dancing on bars of soap, and that doesn't make it any more true than this. --Wafulz 14:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- That article is a forum post. There are statements by Williams on his web site that he was born in '51. That seems, at first glance, more reliable than a single biography. The dispute needs to be in the article, though. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 14:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Where are these statements? Williams doesn't seem to have his own website- the closest thing is robinwilliams.com --Wafulz 14:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. A biography author is 1, fans are hundreds and it does matter. This single biographer is human and can be wrong. True fans surely have read this biography, and yet, they don't disagree when people say he was born in 1951. Now, since you've changed the article once again believing you are the almighty source of truthful information, what makes you REALLY sure that it's 1952? is it this single author? -- Lyverbe 15:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) My mistake, he doesn't have a web site. I'm still looking for an interview where he reports his age. Still, the concensus of more-or-less reliably edited web sites and of sources presently listed in the article lead to 1951. Please insert a comment in the article that his birth year is disputed, and I'll let it go, whichever way it ends up. It is NOT reasonble to push a published (celebrity biography) book over a (generally) reliable web site. However, I disagree with User:Lyverbe; a forum is not a WP:RS, so the thread mentioned is not relevant. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 15:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- What generally reliable website are you talking about? There's a lot of vague mentions about "general consensus" of something. This Google comparison [5] [6] shows no consensus online. While I don't believe that his book is "almighty", I do believe that since someone put their reputation and job at stake and since it has gone through an editorial process and since the author did research that it is more reliable than random websites. This isn't just the view of a single author. I'm sure Robin Williams has read his own biography, and I'm sure his agent and the book editors went over it as well. --Wafulz 16:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I think I should point out that the threshold for inclusion is verifiability, not truth. The biography is the most verifiable source that we have, as opposed to the websites which are (very often) user-submitted content. --Wafulz 16:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, Wikipedia talks about websites not being an acceptable source of information, but here, we're talking about the opinion of hundreds of people on a website instead of a single information written on a single page (like a FAQ section on a celebrity). Still, I'm satisfied with the changes you have made to the article. -- Lyverbe 16:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's very easy for hundreds of people to be wrong, particularly on the internet. See Argumentum ad populum. My point is more specifically that the basis for most of those opinions tends to be "I heard it somewhere" or "a website told me" as opposed to any sort of actual research. --Wafulz 17:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, Wikipedia talks about websites not being an acceptable source of information, but here, we're talking about the opinion of hundreds of people on a website instead of a single information written on a single page (like a FAQ section on a celebrity). Still, I'm satisfied with the changes you have made to the article. -- Lyverbe 16:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) My mistake, he doesn't have a web site. I'm still looking for an interview where he reports his age. Still, the concensus of more-or-less reliably edited web sites and of sources presently listed in the article lead to 1951. Please insert a comment in the article that his birth year is disputed, and I'll let it go, whichever way it ends up. It is NOT reasonble to push a published (celebrity biography) book over a (generally) reliable web site. However, I disagree with User:Lyverbe; a forum is not a WP:RS, so the thread mentioned is not relevant. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 15:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- That article is a forum post. There are statements by Williams on his web site that he was born in '51. That seems, at first glance, more reliable than a single biography. The dispute needs to be in the article, though. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 14:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- This "article" is a forum post. Since when is an online forum more reliable than his biographer? The fansite provides no justification other than "he is wrong and we are right". The book is more verifiable since it was written by a biographer and had extensive editorial oversight. It doesn't matter if "hundreds of people agree". I could make a forum post and have hundreds of people agree that he loves cha-cha dancing on bars of soap, and that doesn't make it any more true than this. --Wafulz 14:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Rush Limbaugh
In the "Personal Life" section, the paragraph about entering rehab in August 2006 mentioned that he made jokes about Rush Limbaugh being addicted to painkillers a few months before entering rehab. Clearly this was an attempt to make Williams look like a hypocrite. This is commentary and is not appropriate for Wikipedia. If there was a "controversy" where Rush made the issue public, then phrase it that way. Not to mention that being addicted to alcohol is legal, and illegally obtaining prescription drugs is illegal, and that Robin voluntarily entered rehab while Rush had to be outed by the media and the police. Andrewdoane 16:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Robin Williams an Apple fan?
In a video done by David Pouge about Macworld 07 and the iPhone, David (seemingly) interviewed Robin Williams. Does this mean that Robin Williams is an Apple fan? If so should he be mentioned as such? Nabeel_co 07:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Does it matter? Unless he's a sponsor, I don't think it's a big deal. --Wafulz 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
birth year discussion
the biography i have by andy dougan says that he was born in 1952. unless someone has another book that says otherwise and not just a website that could be written by anyone, keep it 1952 or come up with some other way to prove that it was 1951 and write about it either in the discussion page or edit summary. The mitten man 03:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)The Mitten Man
- Needs a citation for the birth year in the article, then. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't really agree with the recent change to put two birth dates in the infobox. It looks weird. Opinions? -- Lyverbe 11:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, that just looks goofy. I'm taking it out. --Wafulz 13:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Political views
Robin Williams has proven to be an outspoken critic of the Bush administration, yet none of this is reflected in this article. Aren't his political views worth mentioning? Syrion 20:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Would you care to read what he orders when he goes to McDonald's? I mean, there's a limit to what a reader wants to know and what should go in an "encyclopedia". Personally, I wouldn't put it in. -- Lyverbe 12:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Picture
I love this picture. :-) I really do. But you can't really see his face in it. Can't anybody change it? Dewberry 20:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think this is the only free picture we have. --
Wafulz 22:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
who's line is it anyway
he appeared in an episode, but i'm not sure whether it was straight after his coke addiction. during the show he says "im back now". it's one of the funniest improv shows ever, and deserves a mention, but where? help. And1superstar 18:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Other interests
Surely this should include Poker?
wrong link
There is a link to the article "mimic", but it should actually go to "Mimic_(entertainment)". I would change it myself but I'm not sure how to keep just the word mimic as the link text using wiki tags.
- Done. Simply use "mimic (entertainment)|" in the double brackets. Note the pipe at the end...that instructs the wiki to ignore anything in parentheses. WildCowboy 03:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Robin William's Biography
I notice that his birthdate seems to be reverted all the time. Here is a link that has is biography in it:[7]. Hopefully this is good enough to stop the questions about when he was born. "Born in Chicago in 1951, Williams attended high school in Marin County, California, where he was known for his natural comedic talents. In his senior year, his classmates voted Williams Most Humorous and Least Likely to Succeed." --CrohnieGalTalk 14:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Please ignore, this site also says 1951 and 1952. Sorry. --CrohnieGalTalk 14:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- The two print biographies that I found (Amazon link and other Amazon link) list his birthday as 1952. The printed "scrapbook" is also categorized under July 21, 1952. Britannica also has him as 1952. I think 1952 seems to be the consensus among reliable sources.-Wafulz 18:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well if what I say matters than I say use just the 1952 year. It really looks ridiculous having both years. Put the links that show this year next to it. This of course is just my opinion. --CrohnieGalTalk 20:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Weird the above post I did said I was in an edit problem but it still posted this time. Strange!--CrohnieGalTalk 20:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- I made the change to his birth year to 1952. Please feel free to correct it or what ever as I am coming late to this article. Thanks,--CrohnieGalTalk 21:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Weird the above post I did said I was in an edit problem but it still posted this time. Strange!--CrohnieGalTalk 20:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well if what I say matters than I say use just the 1952 year. It really looks ridiculous having both years. Put the links that show this year next to it. This of course is just my opinion. --CrohnieGalTalk 20:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- I popped in a footnote to specify the three titles and the Britannica article.--Wafulz 21:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- So you are the one it kept telling me I was in an edit war with! :) Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 21:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry the one link worked when I checked it. Thank you for fixing it.--CrohnieGalTalk 22:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- So you are the one it kept telling me I was in an edit war with! :) Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 21:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Notable roles
We're going to need some sort of clear criteria for what makes a role notable, because the infobox gets changed on a regular basis. I'm thinking the following: A role is notable if:
- It was his first role
- It was his first starring role
- He (or the film) has been nominated for or has won a major award
Any other thoughts?-Wafulz 13:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, no other thoughts really. --Rwlinda 19:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Incongruity
In the intro section of this article it mentions that Robin's first impressions were of his Grandma to his Mother.
While later on it mentions that these impressions were of his aunt...
Which one is true? 58.161.112.76 11:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Plagiarism
Has anybody else noticed that most of this article is an exact copy of the LA Auditions source 13 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandan44sou (talk • contribs) 00:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Christian?
I heard rumor recently that Robin has become a Christian - which has my absolute attention ;) Just imagine.. what a person who knows the core of the industry might say.
- Like what?--Threedots dead (talk) 14:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Year of birth
Robin Williams was born in 1951. That's a fact, as he celebrated his 50th birthday in the summer of 2001 and said many times this year (for example, during his "working on material" shows in San Francisco this past may) that he's 55 and will turn 56 this july. IMDB as well as his fansite that's filled with official information has the correct date/year listed as well.--Rwlinda 12:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- Strange as it seems, any given person is not necessarily the best source of accurate information about their own date of birth, as they were far too young at the time to be aware of it and they have to rely on information provided by their family, and their memories of that are fallible. Further, actors are notorious for having an interest in having the public think they're older or younger than they actually are (I'm not saying that RW is guilty of this, just that it's a consideration). Finally, Wikipedia is sourced from published material, not from hearsay. The best source would be his birth certificate. Anyone got it? But thanks for the information. I'll make an edit to the footnote about his birthday. -- JackofOz 11:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Williams states that he is 55 in an interview published July 4, 2007 (before his birthday on July 21) - "But at 55, you know, I'm a character actor". I can see no reason why he would be wrong about his own birthdate. Usually actors lie to make themselves seem younger. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Celebrities are often wrong about their birthdays. They might like pretending to be older or younger or they might just like messing with people.-Wafulz (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know, Williams stated "I was born outside Chicago in 1951" in this 1999 interview.[8]. This March 2002 interview states that he just turned 50.[9] And so does this interview from February of that year.[10] This October 2002 interview states that he is 51 at the time, and describes the details of his "50th birthday party" celebration "last year" (2001).[11] Why should we trust Encyclopedia Britannica, which has an error rate equal to Wikipedia? (or other reference books, that I doubt are any more reliable than that) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- At this point only some sort of official documentation (ie, birth certificate) will answer the question.-Wafulz (talk) 17:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it is unfortunate that the sources conflict. But which is most reliable? Williams himself stating it would seem the best one, but as has been said he may not be the most accurate. In the interview for 2007, it was done in April, before he turned 56 later in the year. Where do Britanicca and the other bios get their info from? If not from Williams himself, they must have their data wrong, and we shouldn't be relying on incorrect data. I suggest we switch it back to just 1951. --Vergency (talk) 01:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- It's not our decision to say who is most reliable. The only authoritative answer can come from official government documentation, so something like a birth certificate, driver's license, or similar. Other articles (Nancy Reagan, Ann Coulter, and Audrey Hepburn come to mind) use this solution when resolving disputes.-Wafulz (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Right anyone got access to a database to find this out then? --Vergency (talk) 23:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there's an easy way to see it for free.-Wafulz (talk) 01:04, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Right anyone got access to a database to find this out then? --Vergency (talk) 23:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- It's not our decision to say who is most reliable. The only authoritative answer can come from official government documentation, so something like a birth certificate, driver's license, or similar. Other articles (Nancy Reagan, Ann Coulter, and Audrey Hepburn come to mind) use this solution when resolving disputes.-Wafulz (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it is unfortunate that the sources conflict. But which is most reliable? Williams himself stating it would seem the best one, but as has been said he may not be the most accurate. In the interview for 2007, it was done in April, before he turned 56 later in the year. Where do Britanicca and the other bios get their info from? If not from Williams himself, they must have their data wrong, and we shouldn't be relying on incorrect data. I suggest we switch it back to just 1951. --Vergency (talk) 01:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- At this point only some sort of official documentation (ie, birth certificate) will answer the question.-Wafulz (talk) 17:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know, Williams stated "I was born outside Chicago in 1951" in this 1999 interview.[8]. This March 2002 interview states that he just turned 50.[9] And so does this interview from February of that year.[10] This October 2002 interview states that he is 51 at the time, and describes the details of his "50th birthday party" celebration "last year" (2001).[11] Why should we trust Encyclopedia Britannica, which has an error rate equal to Wikipedia? (or other reference books, that I doubt are any more reliable than that) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Celebrities are often wrong about their birthdays. They might like pretending to be older or younger or they might just like messing with people.-Wafulz (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Williams states that he is 55 in an interview published July 4, 2007 (before his birthday on July 21) - "But at 55, you know, I'm a character actor". I can see no reason why he would be wrong about his own birthdate. Usually actors lie to make themselves seem younger. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
New movie
I'm not entirely sure how to note this on the page, but Robin Williams is filming another movie [12]. — Super Martyo boing! 02:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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Awards page
Maybe we can create a subpage for awards won by Williams? Something like List of awards won by Robin Williams. Tonight, for example, he won the "Favorite Scene Stealing Star" award at the 35th People's Choice Awards but I am not sure where on here to put it. TJ Spyke 03:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Red Belt?
What is the reasoning behind a link to Red Belt being in the "Gross" column of the entry for August Rush in the Filmography table? Obscure reference? Random vandalism? Jgsampson (talk) 08:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
1972 Robin Williams waited tables
1972- Robin Williams waited tables at the Lark Creek Inn resturant in Larkspur Ca. while attending Collage of Marin. Chef Friend used to ask Robin to do his funny one -man skits, Chef Friend know Robin was very gifted and talented with words,Chef stated;I would laugh till my sides hurt! While waiting on tables at the restaurant; Robin was also attending drama classes at the Collage of Marin in Kentfield Ca., Robin was in a play called 'Your a Good Man Charley Brown'.Robin and Chef Stephen Friend went to the same highschool at Redwood High in Larkspur Ca. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|76.253.64.43 (talk) 04:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)]] comment added by Chef Stephen Friend(76.253.64.43 (talk) 04:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC))3/5/09[Special:Contributions/76.253.64.43|76.253.64.43]] (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
References section malformed
Some references are numbered, some have bullet form. Editorial correction is needed. Jtbagwelljr (talk) 22:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- One of them only linked to articles in Wikipedia. The other was unnecessary because its subject was already sourced. I deleted both. Thanks for the heads up. Belasted (talk) 22:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't know what I'm doing, so nevermind. It seems like the reference section was designed that way because I see refbegin and ref end templates, instead of just reflist. So I don't want to mess with it. Belasted (talk) 23:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Heart Valve Surgery
I remember Robin Williams was on the Charlie Rose show some years ago and talked about having a porcine value implant. Is this his second heart-valve surgery, or was he just talking about the possibility back then? DonPMitchell (talk) 00:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Add external link?
Links to fansites are generally not allowed on wikipedia, but I think this fansite deserves a link on this page as it contains a huge amount of official news and information on the actor. It'd be great to have the link added to this page. I think www.robin-williams.net should be added to the external link section. Any thoughts? --Rwlinda 18:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- If it adds to the article greatly, i don't see why not. --Vergency (talk) 01:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
--"fansites are generally not allowed on Wikipedia"... this is technically an incorrect assumption... fansites are often considered taboo by many editors of Wikipedia... this is due to the editor's preference rather than Wikipedia's guidelines... but editors often choose not to include fansites for a variety of reasons, e.g. a vast majority of fansites violate the format of Wikipedia's guidelines for external links, also the relevance of the fansite equated to the article (how does the fansite relegate in validity?, which fansites provide factual and/or varifiable information?, why is one fansite chosen over another? Does the fansite contain information that could cause an issue of liability for Wikipedia?) As you can see there are many problematic factors to consider when adding fansites (or even quoting from them)... (or any external link for that matter.) But external links to fansites are allowable if they have validity to the article in question... read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links for further information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.111.99 (talk) 01:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Mayday!
I've noticed Williams seems to say "Mayday/M'aider" in some of his films. I've noticed it in Mrs Doubtfire, Good Morning Vietnam and as a bee in Aladdin. Has anyone noticed it in any of his other films and would be it too trivial to include in the article? Craigy (talk) 12:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
--What would the relevance of an idiomatic phraseal usage by the actor contribute to the article? Personally I don't see much importance to the repeated phrase.. it's simply a phrase he ad-libs during filming, a practice many actors do... But if you really wanted to include references to these vocalized expressions, you could possibly give a section on his styles of humor and acting styles in which you'd give clear-cut examples... otherwise I don't think it's that important. 75.186.111.99 (talk) 01:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Dead?
I heard on reddit.com that he is dead, is this true? q.v. http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/827sm/i_heard_some_sad_news_on_talk_radio_robin/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.9.19.61 (talk) 04:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- i also heard on reddit that he's dead. nutin yet on news.google to verify. who are you, reddit-man? 80.250.159.240 (talk) 04:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- No. Do not believe everything you hear on the reddits. Other sources say he's fine. (google robin williams health) (71.207.177.1 (talk) 04:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC))
- I never heard of www.reddit.com before, but I went and checked it out. www.reddit.com appears to be a hearsay site, and therefore would not be a good candidate for primary source verifiability. I went to ET {Entertainment Tonight} (www.etonline.com), where they write "sources tell ET that the 57-year-old actor is not in intensive care, and is expected to leave the hospital tomorrow."---this post was dated on March 4th... so if true, Williams would have been long out of the hospital by now. Unfortunately however, they use the weasel word phraseology "sources tell"...which is just bad Journalism {i.e. which sources?, whom?} Wolfpeaceful (talk) 15:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- According to the Washington Post "Oscar winner Robin Williams is expected to make a complete recovery from his recent heart surgery in the next two months and plans to resume his comedy tour afterward, his representatives said on Monday. Williams, 57, one of Hollywood's leading comedians and known for his manic stand-up routine steeped in wacky accents and improvisation, had surgery on March 13 at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio." I would personally deem the Washington Post a more reliable source than www.reddit.com but hey I'm a stickler for that. 75.186.111.99 (talk) 23:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Edit semiprotected
His heart surgery was performed on March 13, 2009 <ref>http://www.robinwilliams.com/index.php?module=home</ref> <ref>http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20267281,00.html</ref> <ref>http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/23/robin.williams.health/</ref>
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlutz555 (talk • contribs) 00:06:09, 2009-03-25
Done I had trouble accessing the first citation, but the last two should be enough. I changed the date from March 23 to March 13. -- kenb215 talk 10:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Did he say this while entertaining Navy?
"I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan."
- "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those "good ole boys", we will never "interfere" again.
- We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East , and the Philippines They don't want us there, anyway. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.
- All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them
- All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nati on will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
- No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.
- The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while .
- Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil produc ing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
- If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
- Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
- All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it..or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?'" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.97.158 (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'd almost guarantee not. I would assume you got it in some e-mail attributed to Robin Williams. You see these poor attempts at humor get forwarded all over by racist bastards who just want to get the attention by saying it was a famous person who says it. That way, stupid people who think that just because someone they think is funny said it will think it's okay to agree with them despite the obviously idiotic material espoused within. So no, he didn't say that stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.61.216.116 (talk) 06:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I find Robin Williams criminally unfunny, but I'd hate to think that even someone who craves attention as much as he does would stoop that low. Sounds like a very rabidly xenophobic (and misinformed) right-wing rant to me, something a latter-day Bob Hope or John Wayne might come up with. Guv2006 (talk) 10:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to be perfectly clear about it, this is from one of those spam emails that get sent around every so often, and it has been variously attributed to a lot of people, including George Carlin. Snopes.com attributes it to a usenet posting from 2003. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
"Joke Thief?"
So, I'm definitely not an expert on this subject, but from what I understand Robin Williams is very very notorious in the stand up comic industry as a joke thief. Now, from what I have seen so far I haven't run across any serious journalism that has accused him of this, although there are a lot of rumours on this to the point that there is a wikipedia reference to it in the Joke Thief article. I don't think at this point this should be included, but if someone can find a good reference this should be in his Stand Up section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.205.70 (talk) 02:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nothing can be written about such claims without reliable and verifiable third party sourcing. In checking Joke thievery, neither reference to the claim about Williams is valid. The first was a blog post with content gleened from usenet posts and not at all considered reliable and the second was no longer accessible. Both were removed as a WP:BLP violation and the same would be true here. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Happy Days
it states he was cast as mork in happy days. this is incorrect - he was cast as mork in mork and mindy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuthbert mf (talk • contribs) 13:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Williams first appeared as Mork in a Happy Days episode. The entire sequence is correct in the article:
- "Williams was cast by Garry Marshall as the alien Mork in the hit TV series "Happy Days". As Mork, Williams improvised much of his dialogue and devised plenty of rapid-fire verbal and physical comedy, speaking in a high, nasal voice. Mork's appearance was so popular with viewers that it led to a spin-off hit television sitcom, Mork and Mindy, which ran from 1978 to 1982."
- Mork and Mindy was a spin-off from Happy Days. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Personal life
I am new here, so I this is my first contribution... and I have been unable to figure out how to add it , so alas I am posting it here...
the folllowing quote...
"Cocaine is God's way of telling you, you're making too much money."
was also from the same source as the previous quote in the same paragraph: [12] "Robin Williams". James Lipton (host). Inside the Actors Studio. Bravo. 2001-06-10. No. 710, season 7.
Chuckster1953 (talk) 08:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The quote from Robin about him being Episcopalian is actually a quote where he is describing how he views his character in "License To Wed", not his own personal life. You can see by following the citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckp123 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
((deleted my comment, as it is not particularly relevent)) Also, this "Personal Section" really needs revamped ("tweaked"), it "reads" rather incoherently. There appears to be no correlation to the sentences ("paragraphs", if you want to call them that.) It's just a bit of random information. Wolfpeaceful (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC) I have somewhat corrected this problem, by categorizing the material into subsections... Wolfpeaceful (talk) 18:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Popeye and discography?
Is there a reason that there is no mention of his singing on the soundtrack, and subsequent album, of the “Popeye” film?79.67.148.152 (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Filmography
Its not seize the day. it's Dead Poets Society. also his role is john keating not whilhem. some one should change this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakmcd (talk • contribs) 20:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
the 1997 film Fathers Day (co-starred with billy crystal)is not mentioned in RW's filmography i dont know how to add it but heres the link to the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers'_Day_(film) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jreidus (talk • contribs) 22:42, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. 1997 in order: Good Will Hunting, Flubber, Deconstructing Harry, and Father's Day. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Intro edit/potential improvement
I strongly feel the intro to the Robin Williams wiki page can be improved. The page begins with a reference to Mork & Mindy, which ended 28 years ago and is therefore very outdated. I request that this phrase be moved to the end of the intro paragraph. I wanted to discuss it first before I tried to actually make the edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Relax777 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the lead could be improved. However, according to WP:LEAD, the introduction should summarize the entire article and factually, Mork and Mindy should come first, since that is the vehicle that shot him to fame. Were it not for that show, the rest wouldn't have happened as it did. The rest of the lead does need fleshed out, however and Mork doesn't have to occupy much more than the initial statement plus probably mentioning the Emmy nomination for it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Robin Williams has been a lead or supporting actor in 71 major motion pictures. He has been one of the world's leading stand-up comedians for over 25 years. He has been the star of one TV series. Yes, that TV series was his start as a famous entertainer, but it is a guess or judgment call as to whether the rest of his career wouldn't have happened as it did. I do not feel the intro to this wiki page is sufficient or even close to sufficient to give proper credit to the subject. He is known worldwide as a movie actor and comedian, not a TV actor. As you mentioned, the intro should summarize the entire article. The article itself actually needs a lot of work. This is just an idea: the article could open with a broader statement about the entire career of Williams and the entire article, such as "Williams has been a lead or supporting actor in 71 major motion pictures. (Keep the content abt the awards- He has won ____ and been nominated for ____.) He has been a leading stand-up comedian for ___ years....He began his career as the star in the TV series M&M.... I will be glad to discuss this and let others make the changes. Thanks. Relax777 (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Relax777 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Early life
There is a mistake in this section. Robin Williams attended Claremont Men's College for one year, not four, then dropped out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.189.73 (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Reason for not hosting Academy Awards
There is no citation to the claim Robin has not hosted the AA's again since making the joke about the screen writers guild. I think there should be a reference to back this up, otherwise maybe it should be removed. - 30th Dec 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.78.17 (talk) 00:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Early life
There is a mistake in this section. Robin Williams attended Claremont Men's College for one year, not four, then dropped out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.189.73 (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Another typo in this section. "WIlliams left Juilliard in 1976" <should be> "Williams left Juilliard in 1976" --Canislupuslupus (talk) 11:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Pending changes
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Claremont McKenna College
While attending Claremont McKenna College, briefly, in the mid-80s I heard stories about how Williams had attended, also briefly, about ten years before. The article here says he attended all four years, but everything I've heard seems to indicate that he dropped out after a semester or two. Knowing the college as I do, I must say that the notion of Williams sticking it out there for the duration is almost inconceivable...a worse "fit" one could not imagine. CMC (as it is known) is a very conservative, buttoned-down, business-oriented, jock place, even more so back then. Bamjd3d (talk) 19:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)bamjd3d
- Robin Williams Years at CMC
I attended Claremont McKenna College from 1970 - 1974. Robin Williams was not in attendance at CMC during my years at the school. I too understood he had attended the year before I arrived and dropped out. This story is consistant with his age and high school graduation.
Also, when I first saw Robin Williams on Mork and Mindy, I was struck with his humor. During my years at Claremont (which at the time was known as Clarement Men's College) we viewed the world and our situation with the same humor and expressions Robin Williams made so famous, first presented in Mork and Mindy. Little did we know we were world class in our college boy craziness. WABWabarr52 (talk) 21:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Short changed on his film career
How come "Cinema career" starts with Good Morning, Vietnam (1987)? What about Popeye, The World According to Garp, Moscow on the Hudson and Seize the Day (1986, notable because the "Carpe diem" theme recurred in Dead Poets Society, 1989)? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 19:56, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Lawsuit
Who sued him, the cocktail waitress or his wife? It's not clear. I assume it was the waitress since a wife suing her husband seems unusual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.14.122.241 (talk) 09:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
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Under "Television Career", the phrase: Williams was cast by Garry Marshall as the alien Mork in the hit TV series "Happy Days", "Happy Days" should be replaced with "Mork and Mindy".
115.113.219.3 (talk) 05:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: It appears that he first started the role on Happy Days, and it was then spun off, so I think the current version is correct. Monty845 17:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Deep Space Nine
It seems plausible that Robin Williams played the friendly cardassian's role, Mr Garrak, in the first episodes of Star Trek - Deep Space Nine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.254.64.146 (talk) 03:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
He was considered for the roll, but it was not him. Whoopie Goldburg tried to talk him into playing a guest part on the next generation but they could not strange the shooting schedule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.153.19.191 (talk) 03:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
McLaurim/McLaurin
Do we have an appropriate source for the correct spelling of his middle name? Or ideally, more than one, for safety? If not, perhaps it should just be dropped from the bold title: it is, after all, not how he's credited. (Earlier discussion seem to prefer "McLaurim", which is also what Britannica goes with. OTOH, it does sound somewhat peculiar, on the face of it.) Smartiger (talk) 05:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Robin McLaurin Williams is listed in the Nevada Marriage Records on April 30, 1989. I would say that seals it. According to this long family tree, it is his maternal great-grandmother's maiden name. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
McLaurim?
According to the bio on imdb.com, Robin's middle name is McLaurin, not McLaurim as this page states. I'd edit it myself but this page has been locked. Not a big deal, but it ought to be fixed.
- I believe "McLaurin" is a typo on their site. His biographies say "McLaurim".-Wafulz 12:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- I know for a fact that the correct spelling of his middle name is Mc Laurim. As Wafulz mentioned, it says so in his biographies, but Robin himself also mentioned it several times in interviews. --Rwlinda 19:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Strange that IMDB would list his middle name as "McLaurin", and his mother's name is "Laura McLaurin Smith" (listed in the article), but his middle name is "McLaurim"?? Doesn't make sense. This needs further research. --Schmendrick 21:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The Biography Channel states his middle name as "McLaurin". Can someone else find a stronger case against changing it? http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_home/83:730/Robin_Williams.htm --Schmendrick 21:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- There's this. The website might have misspelled the name, but it appears to be a transcript of his own words. From what I've been able to glean, McLaurim seems to be a variation of McLaurin. It does look odd to have a middle name that's almost - but not quite - identical to one's mother's maiden name, but I suppose this is one of those odd cases. I can't find anywhere that this issue has been discussed in favour of one or other spelling. I think we have to accept it's McLaurim. -- JackofOz 03:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- You can watch the interview on YouTube and he does indeed say "McLaurim". I won't include the links but you can search "Robin Williams Actors Studio". MrBlondNYC 09:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_J._McLaurin His great great grandfather. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.130.209 (talk) 19:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Are you referring to the Actor's Studio interview? He says McLaurin, not McLaurim. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAY6HFOJOLM&feature=related Madgenberyl (talk) 07:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
This is the kind of thing that gets Wikipedia ridiculed. McLaurin doesn't exist as a name, but because one or two misguided people misheard it and happened to be the first to enter the name, the mistake gets propagated. The BBC reference is clear, and surely more reliable than IMDb? Madgenberyl (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- McLaurin exists as a last name. McLaurim is very rare. As someone said, Anselm J. McLaurin is Robin's great-great-grandfather. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The Dark Knight Rises
He is feature prominantly in the teaser trailer for Batman 3 The Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what the roll is, it look likes he is a villain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.153.19.191 (talk) 03:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I saw that too but he is not credited anywhere including on TDKR's Wikipedia page or on IMDB. I'd like to add this to his filmology but unfortunately I can't because the trailer is the only evidence right now that he's in TDKR but that's not sufficient enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. Does anyone have a suggestion on how this should be handled? TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 16:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Third marriage
Proposed addition to Robin Williams:
Robin Williams married for the third time to Susan Schneider, a graphic artist, on October 23, 2011 at Meadow Wood Resort in St. Helena, California in the Napa Valley. The couple met shortly before his heart surgery in 2009.
citing: People magazine online — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScoutDaddy70 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Herpes
I am not questioning the content or its accuracy of the statement that Williams gave his partner the STD genital Herpes (not the cold sore). I am questioning whether its appropriate to include the private health info of a public figure. Its a slippery slope to a Wikipedia "List of American Citizens with HIV/AIDs" under the guise of public health protection. We would never list the accusations of STDs in an encyclopedia article about Bill Clinton or George Bush... why do it with Robin Williams. Again, I'm not questioning the accuracy of the statement that that he gave her Herpes, just whether its relevant, etc. We wouldn't build a Wikipedia list of those who had transmitted the common cold, but afterall, one person is the epicenter of any contagions, and I just don't see how its relevant to Williams, who may, or may not have known he carried the Herpes virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.175.55 (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Robin Williams on Equals Three
Hello. Would it be appropriate if someone added Robin Williams' appearance on Equals Three to his article. Something like "In 2011, Williams appeared in an episode of Equals Three, hosted by Ray William Johnson." Thanks, --Jirachiwish (talk) 05:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Made a recent apperance on a very pouplar webshow
I believe this needs to be added.
Robin Williams made a recent appearance to the Ray Williams Johnson =3 show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9nrYVqmPg 184.15.102.157 (talk) 06:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Right? Glad to see EqualsThree is so popular... Funny, couldnt find =3 mentioned on John Cho / Kal Penn / Harold & Kumar or any related article / talk page or them on Equals Three (RWJ) pages ... --TakeruDavis (talk) 15:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from , 13 November 2011
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Please add to Filmography: FernGully: The Last Rainforest (1992) as the voice for character Batty Koda. (Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fern_Gully and http://www.amazon.com/FernGully-Last-Rainforest-Samantha-Mathis/dp/6302481805)
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- Already done CTJF83 18:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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Grammy
Can someone add some detail about this guy's grammy awards and noms to the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- Second this. Why does the opening paragraph state that he won five Grammy awards and the article has NOTHING about them...?!?!?! --gobears87 (talk) 10:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Theatre vs Theater
I'm an Australian spelling pedant who normally fixes spelling errors on sight, but I've got myself confused here. We Aussies spell it theatre. Americans, I think, spell it theater. That's fine by me. The Theater career section has the spelling theatre in the text straight after the heading where it's spelt the other way. I'm guessing that it should be theater. Both words should certainly be spelt the same way. HiLo48 (talk) 09:42, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Suggest next time not wasting time starting a comment section but just go and correct it. It took me two seconds and I clicked the 'minor edits' box. That's why you have an account, so you can do that! Cheers :) --gobears87 (talk) 10:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Edit request from Tolkien fan73, 14 April 2012
Please add to Filmography: Dead Again (1991) as the character Cozy Carlisle. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Again) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tolkien fan73 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit Request - lawsuit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_genitalis is what he was accused of giving the waitress, NOT herpes simplex, as the wikipedia article states. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.2.182 (talk) 03:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Death May 2012
Williams fell off a mountain in Austria while filming a movie. The article needs updating. Big news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.88.176.112 (talk) 20:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request, July 4 2012
Mentions him being on a waiting list for an Aptera, but Aptera is no longer in business and refunded all pre-orders. Line should be excised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lulfas (talk • contribs) 05:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit request, October 23 2012
Someone removed all of the ethnicity categories apart from "Irish". Why is this? Unfortunately, I can't change it myself as the article is locked. Could someone change it for me? 82.19.51.214 (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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To add 2014 popeye film to filmology Natman94 (talk) 03:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Not done Can you give a reliable reference? Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:39, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Typo
Just noticed a typo in the personal life section. His son was born in November, not Movember.
- Fixed. Thank you. HiLo48 (talk) 07:30, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Update to Robin Williams film career
I saw movie called "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen" Robin Williams played the character of the King of the Moon. Released in 1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmoeller1952 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- @Timmoeller1952: - The film is already included in the Robin Williams filmography. It appears that there are several films not included in the "Movie Roles" section, probably based on the notability of the films and the size of his role. GoingBatty (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Bipoloar disorder?
I heard a long time ago, that Williams suffers from Bipolar disorder. Does anyone have more information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.16.113.3 (talk) 15:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Lead image change
What do you guys think about File:Robin Williams 2011a (2).jpg being the new lead image, as it is of higher quality and he is more recognizable? --GouramiWatcher (Gulp) 14:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'm going to change it. Let me know if there is any concern. --GouramiWatcher (Gulp) 17:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Joke theft?
it says nothing here about the apparent theft of jokes (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_thievery)
This definitely needs to be mentioned, I just can't find a good source for it - Hellkyte —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.123.51 (talk) 21:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I read the article that was sourced for Robin Williams stealing jokes. First of all its from a gossip website. Second of all it states that he's stealing jokes, but never cites a single joke that he stole. I wouldn't count this as a credible source, and thus I will delete the comment. Until you can find a "credible source" its just your opinion. Coolmanwc4 (talk) 18:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Joe Rogan said on his podcast that where comics were appearing clubs frequented by Williams, that they would set up a red light / green light system to notify those on stage and back stage that Williams was in the house, and so to use their best material at their discretion incase he should dteal it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.30.145.163 (talk) 10:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I feel it needs to be mentioned, but it continues to be left off by Williams' fans and wikipedia nazi's who demand an "authentic" source....as if there were an encyclopedia to joke thieves. However, if there was one, Williams would be on the cover. Ask any comedian or comedy fan and they will name Williams, Mencia, and Leary. It's literally discussed by dozens of comedians, has been discussed on podcasts, on stage by comedians, in print in various forms, and is so well known that it is common knowledge to anyone remotely familiar with the comedy genre. However, that is not good enough and won't be until some joe blow who proclaims himself an expert and says so in a book or newspaper article. Then wiki-nazi's will finally have their primary source. Literally Marc Maron and Paul Mooney could say it and it would be considered "gossip." My joe blow neighbor could write a book and say it and then it becomes fact.......it's a complete joke.--Jmurdock21 (talk) 20:23, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- Biographies of living persons are subject to more stringent rules than other articles. If we said "Water hates women" or "The Aswan Dam tortures puppies" no one can readily sue us for it. Saying, however, "Joe Livingperson Doe is a thief" is a good way to get sued by Doe, unless we cite a reliable source directly saying that. If your neighbor writes that book, gets it through the legal team at a major publisher and the book goes to press then yes, we would have a reliable source. Until then, you have other comedians throwing around accusations about another comedian. That happens in every field and isn't noteworthy unless it is given substantial coverage in reliable sources. Whether you think this is a rule for Nazis (or "nazi's") is immaterial. WP:BLP is our policy. You abide by it, work to change it or you don't edit. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:18, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
No one is arguing that Robin Williams' article should say "He stole material/he was a plagiarist/joke thief." What people are saying is that the allegations are so wide spread and well known that the ALLEGATIONS should be mentioned. Leaving that out is leaving out a HUGE part of Williams' history. Williams himself has addressed the topic many times. It would be like leaving off his drug use. You're going to retort with, "That is different, Williams admitted to taking drugs. That is a self admitted fact. He has never admitted to taking material or being a plagiarist." I would respond with the argument that, once again, no one is trying to come out and say Williams' is a plagiarist. They are saying that allegations of plagiarism have followed him throughout his career. That also is a self admitted fact by Williams himself. My argument is also...what constitutes a "reliable source?" Who is the authoritative source on plagiarism in comedy? NO ONE IS, except for comedians themselves, and anyone who pressed a book would get that information from conducting the same kind of interviews you claim are inadmissible. Do you truly believe that every book that goes through press is a reliable source and contains only fact? If you believe that, then I have some beach front property in Nebraska you might be interested in. If you believe that wikipedia could be sued for such a statement, you need to brush up on your legal knowledge. Public figures are limited in the actions they can take against their character. In order for a public figure to sue on the grounds of slander or libel, the person who made a false claim had to know 100% that they were making a false claim. Not only that, no one is trying to add any false information to the page. They are trying to add factual, well documented, well reported, well known portion of Williams history. The fact that Williams HIMSELF can be quoted addressing the issue and admitting that allegations have followed him throughout his career should be good enough. If you can't see the ridiculousness of being able to use some random author's writing as a reliable source vs not being able to use an interview from the person whom the wiki article is about......then you're either dead set stubborn or..idk..--64.19.102.80 (talk) 16:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- This is, you say, "a HUGE part of Williams' history". Williams is a very well known comic/actor. I'd be shocked if a huge part of an A list star's history weren't discussed in independent reliable sources. So far, I haven't seen this. Instead, I've seen various comics saying it.
- (So you're in the clear unless you "know 100%" the claim is false? Although I am not a lawyer, I'd advise against testing that theory. (And yes, major publishers do edit for this. Wikipedia isn't going to report that "person X said person Y is gay" as it's trivial. Popular press will use it as a true statement when they can't just say "Y is gay".) Rather, you'll want to be able to show that you made significant effort to verify the truthfulness.)
- At the end of the day, several editors have reverted you. Now you'll need a consensus to add the material. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- This issue is pretty much dead, but this is the first time I've dealt with wikipedia in many months. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many editors have reverted me. They all dealt with the issue that I said James Harden's nickname is "The Beard." But it kept being reverted because of the fact that it is used on t-shirts, he has been referred to that name by sportscasters, sports reporters on ESPN, he has referred to himself as that name, has been referred to in interview by other players as such, has been referred to by that name in AP articles, (I could go on...but the editors want an official source, and as I stated over and over, there is no official nickname guide you can reference. On Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s wiki page, his widely used nickname Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. is listed, however I do not see any official nickname source. So I still stand by my original claim on that issue like I do on this issue.
- And yes, public figures are held to a higher standard. Imagine the amount of lawsuits Michael Jackson could've had every time someone called him a child abuser or said he was gay. That was the entire issue in the Flynt v Falwell case. (Do you think Larry Flynt went through significant effort to make sure that Jerry Falwell had intercourse with his mother?) The only issue I'm aware of in which a public figure sued over gossip and rumor is when Tom Cruise filed a lawsuit in the United Kingdom (not in the USA) against a tabloid that stated he was gay, and he "threatened" to sue another publication that called him a jerk. Of course they never followed through with the suit because you can't sue someone based on their opinion. Not that that would even matter in this situation. I have never said that the article should read "Robin Williams is a joke thief." I argued for possibly a Controversy banner that would say something akin to, "Robin Williams has faced allegations from other notable comedians such as (person x, person y, and person z.) Notable incidents include (person A) performing a stand up routine on the January 1, 1990 edition of (Jay Leno, Dave Letterman...) and Williams performing a nearly identical set during his performance 6 months later on the June 10, 1990 (HBO special, Jay Leno..whatever). Williams addressed these allegations on (person b's) talk show/in a (Playboy Magazine, Vanity Fair, People...) article by saying (such and such and such and such.)
- I think it's ludicrous to say we can't use Robin Williams' own words and interviews as a source.--Jmurdock21 (talk) 17:09, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Link to Comedy Central's 100 Greatest list
I think it's footnote 18 presently. It takes you to the IMDB page for Comedy Central Presents: 100 Greatest Stand-Ups of All Time. Who the fuck cares about that? We want to see the list. Here's the link from Lenny Bruce's page. I'd make the change myself but, you know, wikipedia is dead.
Williams' interest in cycling is mentioned too often.
In this section of the page:
""" He is also a cycling fan, known to own hundreds of bicycles and to attend the Tour de France. Through his interest in cycling, he has been a friend and supporter of Lance Armstrong and his foundation, performing at events for the foundation. """
Williams' interest in cycling is over-emphasised; especially considering this is an excerpt from the "Charity" section.
His cycling has already been explained in the section above Charity (Other Interests).
The above excerpt I have showed should show the link between Williams' interest in cycling and the charity work; not details of his bicycling hobby.
Not to be confused with Robbie Williams
That needs removed from the page, no one alive on planet Earth would confuse Robin for some unknown Australian.2605:A000:F881:2300:6017:571:C971:E110 (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Oi, this Australian is offended. He's not one of us. He's a Pom! But I agree with your point, and have deleted the note. HiLo48 (talk) 01:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
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Died 12th August 2014 81.159.92.163 (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed - article has been edited mentioning such. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Died 8-11-2014 2601:7:100:71C:7496:DAC9:45F:56EB (talk) 23:20, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Already in the article. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 23:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Robin Williams died today due to suicide via asphyxiation. August 11th, 2014. 24.222.216.33 (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- This has been added to the article as appropriate, given the confirmed information available at this point. Mike V • Talk 23:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Robin Williams passed away from a possible suicide on 11th August at 12.02PM. He was 63 years old. Robin Williams was dealing with severe depression of late.
Source: news.com.au
- This has been added to the article as appropriate, given the confirmed information available at this point. Mike V • Talk 23:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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he was in FLUBBER too
2606:6000:FF40:8F00:181D:F0FD:CACA:DE3 (talk) 23:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not done at the moment, his filmography is a complete list of the things he's been in, including that here would overwhelm the article--which is why we split off the filmography in the first place. Thanks for the suggestion! --j⚛e deckertalk 23:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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He died today (Aug. 11th, 2014) at age 63. 76.5.174.150 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Has not that material already been added? Dustin (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) In the article. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 23:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Recommend we delete (asphyxia) from the infobox. We generally don't list the 'cause' of death. GoodDay (talk) 23:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Done. Wrong field anyway. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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According to this pdf report (http://www.marinsheriff.org/uploads/854.pdf) by the Marin County Sheriff Office, some of the information about Robin's death is incorrect.
9-1-1 was dialed at 11:55am. The police and fire department arrived at 12pm. He was pronounced dead at 12:02pm. Nothingrandom (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- So the error with the current text is that he was found dead on the 10th, not the 11th? Your link doesn't include that information, maybe wrong URL? --j⚛e deckertalk 23:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Mmmm, I misread. I'm closing this, as I expect whatever the original error is is in the past, but reopen it (answered=no) if you can tell me what specifically needs a change. --j⚛e deckertalk 23:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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What sad news. Could the "General" section of the References be removed? Two are dead links, the other two are a non-notable story about a hoaxer, and an unlinked Newsday article. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- There is actually quite a bit of linkrot in the refs. As to the general refs, it doesn't look like Harvard referencing is being used... perhaps those should just be moved to external links. I'm personally reticent to cut out the references unless it's clear there's no material relying on them. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 23:50, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've moved them here, I'm pretty sure at least three of these five aren't being used as sources, and a fourth doesn't provide enough information to be a usable reference, let's sort this out here and put back anything that needs putting back. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
{{Refbegin}} ;General * [http://franklovece.com/newsday2.html#robin "Road Trip with Robin"]{{dead link|date=October 2013}} * [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4553999.stm "Robin Williams mimic ends 'fraud'"] ([[BBC News Online]]) * [http://www.askmen.com/gossip/robin-williams/robin-williams-impersonator-stopped.html "Robin Williams' impersonator stopped"] ([[AskMen.com]]) * [http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah1169.shtml "Robin Williams Enters Rehab"]{{dead link|date=October 2013}}, August 9, 2006 ([[Access Hollywood]]) * [[Frank Lovece|Lovece, Frank]], ''[[Newsday]]'' (April 27, 2006) {{Refend}}
Dead?
I heard on reddit.com that he is dead, is this true? q.v. http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/827sm/i_heard_some_sad_news_on_talk_radio_robin/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jones 8842 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
"Acclaimed films" vs. "financial successes"
Regarding the list of films in the first paragraph: weren't most of the "acclaimed films" also financial successes? And at least some of the financial successes were critically acclaimed (like Aladdin). Zagalejo^^^ 00:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)