Talk:Rosie Perez

Better Picture

Does anyone have a clearer, better picture of Rosie? That Do The Right Thing screenshot doesn't do her justice at all. -- Jalabi99 03:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

To be described as Puerto Rican does not make any sense. Why -- "From Puerto Rico" is NOT an indigenous race of people. She happens to be raised/born there.   She has African Racial features, appears Afro-Latino? Be proud of it!!

Most people from "Puerto RIco" look Mexican/Latino, of Aztec Indian indigenous people with European Spanish heritage background. 

What makes her so qualified to be on THe View -- is it some affirmative action programming of the show, to please The racial equality of Blacks representation!!!!What happened to Asian, Middle Easterners.  The show is doomed for cancellation sometime in the future - gives me a headache, listening to them!!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.34.210 (talk) 15:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC) 

Clarification sought

If anyone can explain what Puerto Rican rights from America means, please clarify. The phrase is mentioned in the following passage. "Rosa Perez is also a Puerto Rican Activist. She fights for Puerto Rican rights from America. Her 2006 film Yo Soy Boricua! Pa' Que Tu Lo Sepas! (I'm Boricua, Just So You Know!) is about this fight."

I would think that it refers to PR independence. A lot of people want PR to not be a USA colony anymore. JBDay 20:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

It isn't a colony. Never was.

Perhaps not legally, but it is in practise! How about the mass sterilisation of PR women, for example?JBDay 22:40, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

My guess at what is meant by the sentence is that Rosa Perez, while living in America, fights for the rights of the Puerto Rican people. Although it could be interpreted in other ways, I think this is the most likely meaning.74.173.165.141 (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

remove advertisting

i removed the "academy award" from the intro -- we don't need advertisintg in the intro. rosie perez is not known for her acadaemy award rejection, it is at most a sidenote. --71.112.7.212 03:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

She now has a tribute album by the famous hip hop group FELT (slug and murs). Called Felt: 3 a tribute to Rosie Perez should be mentioned.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.214.88.91 (talk) 03:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved per request Favonian (talk) 08:04, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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Rosie Pérez → Rosie Perez – Name should be reverted to the overwhelmingly most common spelling without accents. Closeapple (talk) 05:57, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support per own nomination: There is no source or other evidence that there is an accent mark in this person's name. Accents appear to have been introduced with no explanation by an anonymous IP at [1] in December 2007, and thanked for it at User talk:70.115.231.158 for some reason, and then the article was moved based on that on 2013-08-03. It appears that someone assumed something about how Spanish descendants are supposed to spell their own names in English. There is no accent on her name on her official Twitter page (Rosie Perez on Twitter), even though Twitter accepts accents if the user wants it (Penélope Cruz on Twitter). That's the only "official" version I've found on a site that clearly accepts accents. Even Spanish Wikipedia uses es:Rosie Perez with no accent. --Closeapple (talk) 05:57, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
• Question - my guess (and it's only a guess since you have failed to provide like-with-like data above) is that as an American she doesn't, but then she's also a Puerto Rican activist, so maybe she does. What we need is you to provide like-with-like data, so can you please provide print sources which use other Spanish accents but not one for Rosie Perez, otherwise the only print sources found will be those like this: In ictu oculi (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Juanita Heredia Transnational Latina Narratives in the Twenty-first Century - 2009- Page 78 "..voice their perspectives and control their minds and bodies is further evident in her participation in the documentary Yo Soy Boricnua (2006) directed by Puerto Rican Rosie Pérez.

So, the New York Times did not use an accent either in 1994 or 2011 despite apparently using it with other people with the same name. IMDB has several people named Pérez but she ain't one of them. USA Today's website omitted the accent but I couldn't find counterexamples of them ever using them. The San Francisco Chronicle's website also dropped the accent but they do use accents for other people with that name habitually. Hope that qualifies. Red Slash 00:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes that qualifies, those are the like-with-like examples and arguments the nom should have presented.

Support per data provided by Red Slash - which is confirmed by 76 results from a benchmark search in Google Books using [+"Penélope Cruz" -"Penelope Cruz"] as the baseline, Rosie Perez is indeed unaccented in books that do accent Spanish names. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:37, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Every once in a while I get something right, In ictu oculi Good for you for calling for reliable comparisons and for finding some yourself (that was a pretty ingenious search you did there if you asked me), and thanks for not being offended by what I wrote. (I just reread what I put - it could've easily been interpreted as disrespectful, but that was absolutely not my desire.) Red Slash 21:42, 21 October 2013 (UTC)`

User:Red Slash, no not all, you did exactly the search the nom should have done. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support her right to identify herself without the accent if she wants to, support reliable sources in following her lead and dropping the accent mark, and support moving the page to follow those reliable sources. Red Slash 00:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Sources do not use the accent and the subject was born in, raised in, and is notable for activities in the (mainland) United States (cf. Leander Perez, Eddie Perez. —  AjaxSmack  02:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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Unsourced claims fixed

I've removed the following claims:

Accent on "María" in Rosie's real name

No sources. Probably from the same retroactive accenting as discussed in #Requested move above.

Lydia Perez has a birth name of Fontañez and a husband named Arturo Perez

Neither of those names appear in any of the 3 sources given at the end of those two sentences. In fact one of the Daily News articles claims that "Lydia was only 14 when she married Ventura Perez in Puerto Rico and he brought her to New York" ("ROSIE, HER MOM & AIDS Activist Perez shuns mom who's dying of the disease". Daily News. New York. July 7, 2000.) But that source is Lydia Perez herself, whose own claims are unreliable, according to the article the next day. ("Rosie Helped Mom, Aids Groups Say". Daily News. New York City. July 8, 2000. Retrieved 2013-10-26.) This was raised at #Who's Her Father? above also.

Also, Biography.com may or may not be reliable; it does not usually cite its sources. (After seeing some of the stuff on Biography or The Biography Channel in the last 10 years, I can see why Wikipedia editors would find their website less than a rock-solid source.) See discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Archive 15#biography.com workgroup, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 131#Is biography.com reliable?, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 132#Biography.com, User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom/Archive 11#http://www.biography.com/people/demi-lovato-481444. This is just from the intro and early life sections. The rest of the article still needs editing, particularly since there are WP:BLP claims unsourced since 2011. --Closeapple (talk) 19:55, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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Article contradicts itself

Was she born in the Bushwick or the Greenpoint neighborhood of Brooklyn? The article says both, in the first two paragraphs of her bio. Likely born in one and raised in the other. This needs to be addressed. Maybe someone who's been working on this article already would be well-versed in it?--~~