Talk:Russian irredentism

Map colors

In "Post-Soviet Union" section, The map colors are really hard to distinguish even for someone that is not color blind. Could someone please fix the image? Thx nunocordeiro (talk) 16:25, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't Alaska be considered territory of the Russian Empire that the USSR wasn't able to annex. I don't know how these maps are made, so I can't make this change myself, and it sounds really petty. Emperor Garfield I (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Russian irredentism is a modern phenomenon

By the definition of irredentism Russian expansion into the Caucasus, Siberia and Central Asia was not irredentist. Lavateraguy (talk) 14:16, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

I noticed this too. This needs checking to see if any claims of "historical right" were made during the imperial expansion period.

Right now I will tag the section as "disputed" as I cannot settle this right awayXoool (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Oh, well then it is clear why the article is trying to call the Chechen conflict an irredentism. It seems that the main goal of the article was to attack the territorial integrity of modern Russia. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:22, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

All irredentism in modern world is just a new phenomenon. Not just Russia, but even Turkey, Iran, China, Spain. Everywhere. But all have historical reasons. Don't complain about it. Russia had conquered and subjugated many lands in its imperialist conquests until the final collapse of the Soviet Union, of course there were no international laws at the time. Modern Russia may have been a bit different, but its habit stays. The attacks on Georgia and Ukraine simply demonstrate that. ZaDoraemonzu (talk) 14:17, 6 September 2020

Implicit support for Chechen separatism

Those who are trying to indirectly call the Chechen conflict the result of Russian imperialism, I propose to do the same with articles on Catalonia, Scotland and other separatist conflicts, including Ukraine. Chechnya has always been part of the Russian Federation and similar borders are recognized by other countries. Wikipedia is not a place for political propaganda, especially if you are trying to support radical religious terrorists. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Then what's your standard of Russian imperialism and irredentist movement? Russian irredentism cannot develop without the possible expansionist policies happened in the past by the Russian government. You have over 150 million people and another 150 million aliens in your country that is undocumented in Russia, living in a territory stretched from Eastern European border to Sakhalin and Alaska. Is that enough of your landmass you have? Chechnya had never been part of Russia up until 19th century when the Russian embarked on a conquest that killed more than two to three million Chechens spanned from 19th century to today. Not just say Circassia, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, pss. Hypocritical. ZaDoraemonzu (talk), 14:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

What about Austria?

The USSR occupied some of Austria after WW2, like they did with Germany. Why isn't Austria shown, but East Germany and North Iran are? InfiniteCrumpet (talk) 16:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

The Red Army left all of Austria after the Austrian State Treaty in 1955, as yet announced in the Moscow Declaration of 30 October 1943. How long were they present in East Germany (which in fact historicly is central Germany)? ThomasPusch (talk) 20:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

And there is an article about those occupation forces: Group of Soviet Forces in Germany. Mellk (talk) 11:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Presently Not Sourced

Texts needing to be properly justified include: "The ideological premise dovetails with aspects of ethnic nationalism and religious nationalism inside Russia and elsewhere, with political activists viewing ethnic Russians under the Russian Orthodox Church as representing a unique cultural movement in world history. Ultranationalists supporting irredentist goals may advocate for and engage in political violence to pursue what they believe as the Kremlin's interests. In practical terms, irredentists may incorporate anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Ukrainianism into their rhetoric." And: "Justifications for irredentism often include controversial assertions about Russian language speakers as well as those of Slavic ethnic heritage in general both having ethnic loyalty in some sense to a "Greater Russia" in terms of empire." CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@CoffeeWithMarkets: can you explain in this edit how with news commentary remarking to its similarity with German nationalist efforts in the lead up to World War II is supported? I don't see this supported; firstly it is based on one ref and that article does not "remark" about the similarities. It mentions certain figures making comparisons to Hitler and Munich, then says: "Some of this is true. Certainly ethnic irredentism smacks of Hitler’s ploy at Munich, but the implication of the “Munich analogy” is that this is but a first step, unseen by weak, appeasing Western statesmen, toward future invasions. This is almost certainly not true for Putin." It looks more like a criticism of such comparisons in general. Mellk (talk) 09:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, I am not sure why you added unsourced content like this and this and now are asking for sourcing here? Mellk (talk) 09:09, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Why are they claiming Albania?

What does the Russian government want with Albania? 2601:49:8400:20F0:802D:7205:BEE0:48DB (talk) 19:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

The article is not about an official Russian policy, it is about an ideology that happens to be supported by some people in the Russian government. The reason Albania is here is because Albania was part of the Warsaw Pact, as is indicated in the map legend. Also, the map doesn't represent Russian irredentism directly, it shows regions that had or have some relationship with some "Russia", with "Russia" being the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union or the modern Russian Federation, and is there for illustration purposes only. These regions may be somewhat "desired" by Russian irredentists, but not necessarily regions these people want Russia to annex. 2804:14D:7684:8C05:DCD6:18E8:D385:C26B (talk) 01:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Alaska

Why no Alaska? It was a part of the Russian Empire. 58.160.77.124 (talk) 05:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Soviet irredentism

Shouldn't the article at least mention Soviet irredentism, which was in part inspired by the Russian Empire? Firekong1 (talk) 21:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)