Talk:SMS Friedrich Carl (1902)

This any use?

It's not the best image, but it might polish up a bit. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.3% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 07:40, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey Adam, we haven't crossed paths in a while - how are you doing? We certainly have room for the photo in the article if you want to clean it up. It'd probably be a better lead image than the one we currently have. Parsecboy (talk) 14:38, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Doing pretty well. Been a roughish year, but... As I said, it's not a perfect image, but File:Agence Rol - Le croiseur allemand SMS Friedrich Karl.jpg will probably do. If there's anything I can do for you, let me know; kind of took 2021 off so I'm still picking things back up. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.3% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 21:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@Parsecboy: I just realised: This image is a crop of File:The people's war book; history, cyclopaedia and chronology of the great world war (1919) (14782093375).jpg, which means that image is this ship. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.3% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 07:46, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Also, https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b532064618.r=Friedrich%20Carl?rk=171674;4 might be better than all the images so far. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.3% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 07:51, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Good catch on identifying the ship in that photo! And I agree, that one is the best image so far - that would make a great lead image. Parsecboy (talk) 13:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

File:SMS Friedrich Carl 1904 - Original.jpg - I'll restore it soon. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.3% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 07:39, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Causes of casualties

So why did '7 or 8 men die in the sinking'? If the crew in general was evacuated, why weren't these people evacuated? If the sources explain that, it shouldn't be omitted. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 20:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Not covered in the sources, but a mine exploding next to your ship frequently isn't great for your health. I'd assume they were killed then. Parsecboy (talk) 21:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

That would make sense, but the wording in the article definitely creates a different impression, because it notes the deaths after referring to a relatively long period between the explosion and the actual sinking, and associates the deaths with the sinking, not with the explosion. In this way, it appears that they died later, when the ship sank, and not when the explosion happened.--62.73.72.3 (talk) 12:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

The trouble is, the sources don't state that they were killed by the mine detonation, so we can't make it any clearer than it is. Parsecboy (talk) 13:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)