Talk:SMS Gefion

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:SMS Gefion/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 17:02, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Nominator: Parsecboy (talk)

Hi! My review for this article will be here shortly. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 17:02, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt review! Parsecboy (talk) 17:10, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written

• a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
• b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

WP:LEAD:

Check for WP:LEAD: Check for Correct Structure of Lead Section:  Done Check for Citations (WP:LEADCITE):  Done Check for Introductory text:  Done Check for Provide an accessible overview (MOS:INTRO):  Done Check for Relative emphasis:  Done Check for Opening paragraph (MOS:BEGIN):  Done Check for First sentence (WP:LEADSENTENCE):  Done SMS Gefion was an unprotected cruiser of the German Kaiserliche Marine (Imperial Navy), the last ship of the type built in Germany. Check for Format of the first sentence (MOS:BOLDTITLE):  Done Check for Proper names and titles:  Done Check for Abbreviations and synonyms (MOS:BOLDSYN): None Check for Foreign language (MOS:FORLANG): None Check for Pronunciation: None Check for Contextual links (MOS:CONTEXTLINK):  Done Check for Biographies: NA Check for Organisms: NA Check for Biographies of living persons: NA Check for Alternative names (MOS:LEADALT):  Done Check for Non-English titles: Check for Usage in first sentence: Check for Separate section usage: Check for Length (WP:LEADLENGTH):  Done Check for Clutter (WP:LEADCLUTTER): None

WP:LAYOUT:

Done Check for WP:LAYOUT:  Done Check for Body sections: WP:BODY, MOS:BODY.  Done Check for Headings and sections:  Done Check for Section templates and summary style:  Done Check for Paragraphs (MOS:PARAGRAPHS):  Done Check for Standard appendices and footers (MOS:APPENDIX):  Done Check for Order of sections (WP:ORDER):  Done Check for Works or publications:  Done Check for See also section (MOS:SEEALSO):  Done Check for Notes and references (WP:FNNR):  Done Check for Further reading (WP:FURTHER):  Done Check for External links (WP:LAYOUTEL):  Done Check for Links to sister projects:  Done Check for Navigation templates:  Done Check for Formatting:  Done Check for Images (WP:LAYIM):  Done Check for Links:  Done Check for Horizontal rule (WP:LINE):  Done

WP:WTW:

Done Check for WP:WTW:  Done Check for Words that may introduce bias:  Done Check for Puffery (WP:PEA):  Done Check for Contentious labels (WP:LABEL):  Done Check for Unsupported attributions (WP:WEASEL):  Done Check for Expressions of doubt (WP:ALLEGED):  Done Check for Editorializing (MOS:OPED):  Done Check for Synonyms for said (WP:SAY):  Done Check for Expressions that lack precision:  Done Check for Euphemisms (WP:EUPHEMISM):  Done Check for Clichés and idioms (WP:IDIOM):  Done Check for Relative time references (WP:REALTIME):  Done Check for Neologisms (WP:PEA): None Check for Offensive material (WP:F***):  Done Check for WP:MOSFICT:  Done Check for Real-world perspective (WP:Real world):  Done Check for Primary and secondary information (WP:PASI):  Done Check for Contextual presentation (MOS:PLOT):  Done

WP:EMBED:
Done Prose is preferred over list (WP:PROSE): Check for Tables (MOS:TABLES):

2: Verifiable with no original research

• a. Has an appropriate reference section: Yes
• b. Citation to reliable sources where necessary: excellent (Thorough check on Google. Cross-checked with other FAs)

WP:RS:

Done Check for WP:RS:  Done Cross-checked with other FAs: Kaiser class battleship, Helgoland class battleship, Nassau class battleship, SMS Von der Tann, SMS Moltke (1910), SMS Seydlitz, Moltke class battlecruiser, König class battleship, Derfflinger class battlecruiser, SMS Hindenburg, Amagi class battlecruiser, SMS Derfflinger, SMS Lützow, Bayern class battleship, SMS Helgoland, SMS Blücher, SMS König, SMS Westfalen, SMS Goeben, SMS Baden (1915), SMS Kronprinz (1914), SMS Rheinland, SMS Markgraf, SMS Bayern (1915), SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911), German battleship Tirpitz Check for the material (WP:RSVETTING): (contentious)  Done Is it contentious?: Yes Does the ref indeed support the material?: Check for the author (WP:RSVETTING):  Done Who is the author?: Does the author have a Wikipedia article?: What are the author's academic credentials and professional experience?: What else has the author published?: Is the author, or this work, cited in other reliable sources? In academic works?: Check for the publication (WP:RSVETTING):  Done Check for Self-published sources (WP:SPS):

WP:MINREF:
Done Check for inline citations WP:MINREF:  Done Check for Direct quotations:  Done Check for Likely to be challenged:  Done Check for Contentious material about living persons (WP:BLP): NA

• c. No original research:  Done

WP:NOR:
Done Check for primary sources (WP:PRIMARY):  Done Check for synthesis (WP:SYN):  Done Check for original images (WP:OI):  Done

3: Broad in its coverage

a. Major aspects:

Done Cross-checked with other FAs: Kaiser class battleship, Helgoland class battleship, Nassau class battleship, SMS Von der Tann, SMS Moltke (1910), SMS Seydlitz, Moltke class battlecruiser, König class battleship, Derfflinger class battlecruiser, SMS Hindenburg, Amagi class battlecruiser, SMS Derfflinger, SMS Lützow, Bayern class battleship, SMS Helgoland, SMS Blücher, SMS König, SMS Westfalen, SMS Goeben, SMS Baden (1915), SMS Kronprinz (1914), SMS Rheinland, SMS Markgraf, SMS Bayern (1915), SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911), German battleship Tirpitz Check for Article scope as defined by reliable sources: Check for The extent of the subject matter in these RS: Check for Out of scope: Check for The range of material that belongs in the article: Check for All material that is notable is covered: Check for All material that is referenced is covered: Check for All material that a reader would be likely to agree matches the specified scope is covered: Check for The most general scope that summarises essentially all knowledge: Check for Stay on topic and no wandering off-topic (WP:OFFTOPIC):

b. Focused:
Done Check for Readability issues (WP:LENGTH): Check for Article size (WP:TOO LONG!):

4: Neutral

WP:NPOV:

Done 4. Fair representation without bias:  Done Check for POV (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for naming (WP:POVNAMING):  Done Check for structure (WP:STRUCTURE):  Done Check for Due and undue weight (WP:DUE):  Done Check for Balancing aspects (WP:BALASPS):  Done Check for Giving "equal validity" (WP:VALID):  Done Check for Balance (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for Impartial tone (WP:IMPARTIAL):  Done Check for Describing aesthetic opinions (WP:SUBJECTIVE):  Done Check for Words to watch (WP:YESPOV):  Done Check for Attributing and specifying biased statements (WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV):  Done Check for Fringe theories and pseudoscience (WP:PSCI): None Check for Religion (WP:RNPOV): None

5: Stable: No edit wars, etc: Yes

6: Images  Done (PD)

Images:

Done 6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:  Done Check for copyright tags (WP:TAGS):  Done Check for copyright status:  Done Check for non-free content (WP:NFC):  Done Check for valid fair use rationales (WP:FUR):  Done 6: Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  Done Check for image relevance (WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE):  Done Check for Images for the lead (WP:LEADIMAGE):  Done Check for suitable captions (WP:CAPTION):  Done

As per the above checklist, there are no issues with the article and it’s a GA. Thanks, Parsecboy, very much for your diligence in writing such great articles.

Promoting the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn ♥ 01:10, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! And it's taken me quite a long time to get to the point where I can write an article that needs minimal edits to reach GA :) Parsecboy (talk) 13:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

File:S.M. kleiner kreuzer Gefion - restoration, borderless.jpg to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:S.M. kleiner kreuzer Gefion - restoration, borderless.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on November 30, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2015-11-30. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:37, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Picture of the day

A 1902 lithograph showing SMS Gefion, an unprotected cruiser of the Imperial German Navy completed in 1895. Gefion was involved in the Battle of Taku Forts (1900) before being modernized. During World War I, Gefion served as a barracks ship. In 1920 it was sold for service as a freighter, only to be scrapped three years later.

Though Gefion was intended for service in the German colonial empire and as a fleet scout, the design was unsuccessful in both roles and soon replaced by the newer Gazelle class of light cruisers.Lithograph: Hugo Graf; restoration: Adam Cuerden

Photo

here. Parsecboy (talk) 16:41, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

And here. Parsecboy (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Korvettenkapitän Waldeyer

According the german "Ehrenrangliste der Kaiserliche Marine" from 1930 a german Korvettenkapitän Waldeyer is not listetd. I think, its a mistake and a confusion with the later Fregattenkapitän Hugo von Waldayer-Hartz. MfG URTh (talk) 10:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

No, it's one and the same person. Waldeyer's father was elevated to hereditary nobility in 1916, thus the change in name. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 18:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Gefion classification as an unprotected cruiser

The reference to this ship as a an unprotected cruiser appears to be a mistake, it is definitionally a protected cruiser as it has an internal armored deck. The usage of unprotected cruiser is not cited in the article, with the citations using other terms like light cruiser. The ship should be moved into either the protected cruiser or light cruiser category and referred to as such in the description.

Gardiner & Gray refer to it as a 'light protected cruiser' being a smaller version of previous protected cruiser designs and a precursor to the Gazelle class light cruiser. Not a development of the Bussard class unprotected cruiser as this article indicates. Erich Gröner refers to the ship a Kreuzerkorvette, a classification unique to the German navy and shared with the Irene class protected cruiser, both Gefion and the Irene class were later re-classed as a Kleiner Kreuzer (light cruiser), Gröner also emphasizes that Gefion was similar to the Gazelle class. The German language version of this same article also does not use the term unprotected cruiser (Ungeschützte Kreuzer), but rather Kreuzerkorvette and Kleiner Kruezer. Joermungandr (talk) 14:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)