Talk:Salfit Governorate

Reversing Non-Neutral Changes

Please make the following changes. This will reverse non-neutral changes recently made by a user who has been warned in the past not to make such alterations to articles in this category. It is surely not consistent with Wikipedia policy to refer to Israel's Mediterranean coast as the "occupied Palestine coast", or to refer to Israel as "the 1948 occupied territories."

The first paragraph should read as follows:

Salfit governorate (Arabic: محافظة سلفيت; Hebrew: נפת סלפית) is one of the sixteen governorates of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA), with a unique geographical location between the Mediterranean coast and the Jordan Valley. It is located in the northwest of the West Bank. At an area of 204 km², it takes up 3.6% of the area of the West Bank.

Similarly, in the second paragraph (the first in the Location section), please replace the text "ends in the city of Kafr Qasim in the 1948 occupied territories" with the text "ends in Deir Ballut".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.12.176 02:05, February 5, 2020‎ (talk)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Ip user, please see the notice I have added at the top of this talk page concerning the active Arbitration Committee remedies that are in force. Edit requests are limited to non-controversial changes: Before requesting an edit, please consider the following requirements (SUNS—Specific, Uncontroversial, Necessary, Sensible) The edit history clearly shows that the uncontroversial prong of that test has not been met. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:45, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

This is a governorate of the Palestinian Authority, with only Arabic as its official title. It is territory that is not disputed by any state or competent source as not being in Israel. nableezy - 16:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Contested description

Although I closed the anonymous users edit request above for not meeting the standards of and edit request, they have a very good point. The language they contest is not compliant with the WP:IMPARTIAL policy: Wikipedia describes disputes. Wikipedia does not engage in disputes. أمين wrote the text at issue and about 75% of the article text with only one citation for population figures. This is obviously not the usage of WP:BESTSOURCES. This text ...the occupied Palestinian coast ... and ...in the 1948 occupied territories to the west... replaced the more-neutral text in Al Ameer son's original version ... in the northwestern West Bank. I also note that the former phrase cannot be correct since this governate is well inland. The anonymous user's attempts to change this have been reverted by Nableezy here and here with the first using the edit summary: "Not israeli territory sorry". Given that this is in the ARBPIA space and the question of what territory is whose is the very reason why we have ARBPIA, this should have been discussed before the edit war started. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:04, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

No, there is no dispute that the West Bank is not Israeli territory. None whatsoever. Israel does not dispute this. No competent source does. nableezy - 16:32, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I did however make some changes. nableezy - 16:51, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

That statement is factually incorrect: "Attempts to present Jewish settlement in West Bank territory (ancient Judea and Samaria) as illegal and "colonial" in nature ignores the complexity of this issue, the history of the land, and the unique legal circumstances of this case." - Israeli Embassy to Japan "Attorney-General Avichai Mandelblit said he would not regard the government decision to annex parts of the West Bank as part of the “Deal of the Century” as illegal simply because the government is transitional." -Jerusalem Post Describing it as "occupied territory" is not NPOV. Describing it as simply "the West Bank," which is how the UN designates it, is. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:55, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@Nableezy:, you made your changes while I was composing my reply, and I think the new version is better. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

The Israeli government has disputed that Israeli settlements in the West Bank (and the Golan and East Jerusalem) are not illegal under international law. They have not, as of yet, made any claim that the territory is Israeli territory however. No Israeli settlement is a part of the governorate anyway. As far as the so called "deal of the century", please see WP:CRYSTAL and beyond that, Israeli proclamations do not equate to fact on Wikipedia. The overwhelming majority of sources do in fact say Israeli settlements are illegal as a matter of fact, despite the protestations of the Israeli embassy to Japan. I'm sorry, but no, describing the West Bank as occupied territory is in fact NPOV, keeping in mind that NPOV requires us to represent super-majority views as such. Oh, and the UN actually describes all of the Palestinian territories as occupied, see for example the title of this UN organization. nableezy - 17:00, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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Capitalize governorate

Replace "governorate" with "Governorate" in the |type= parameter of the infobox. Janomoogo (talk) 22:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 07:52, 18 December 2023 (UTC)