Nableezy
Israeli apartheid and dispute resolution efforts
Hi. I'm preparing a presentation for the upcoming WikiConference North America about disputes and dispute resolution efforts. Thought I might use Israeli apartheid as an example of a highly disputed article. I'm contacting you because you are among the most active current editors there. Do you happen to know of any summaries or descriptions, in WP or otherwise, of the history of the disputes and dispute resolution efforts?
I'm also curious about your perspective on I-P dispute resolution efforts, especially in relation to the Israel apartheid article. What's your view of ARB sanctions, the role of WikiProjects (e.g., Palestine, Israel, WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration) or RfC and so on -- what has been effective or ineffective, worth trying, or examples of resolution progress?
Feel free to email me your response, if that would be better. Thanks very much, ProfGray (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not really all that active on that article. Don’t think I have anything to offer here. nableezy - 15:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Removal of edit by me on page "Talk:2024 Hezbollah headquarters strike"
Would you kindly explain why you felt the need to remove my edit? Your removal is linked here. TheBooker66 (talk) 14:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheBooker66 WP:A/I/PIA requires that users have 500 edits and 30 days of tenure to participate in formal discussions related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. You currently have 47 edits. I don't mean to discourage you, by all means continue contributing to Wikipedia, but until you have 500 edits it will need to be in a different topic than the Arab-Israeli conflict. nableezy - 14:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point, but raise you a question (or two): why isn't the page extended protected if it's meant to be edited only by extended confirmed users? And where can I find "informal" discussions on the topic? TheBooker66 (talk) 15:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because non-extended-confirmed editors may still make edit requests on the talk page. Technically, even informal discussions are off-limits, the only allowed thing for users with less than 500 edits to do in this topic area now are to make edit requests on the talk page. Previously it was only discussions such as RFCs, RMs, and AFDs that were restricted, that was widened earlier this year or late last year, can't remember when. nableezy - 15:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wouldn't you say that requesting the change of the page's title is considered an edit request (which as you mentioned, and as mentioned in A.1. here, is allowed)? Also, would you please clarify "RFCs, RMs, and AFDs" (google isn't helpful)? TheBooker66 (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, from the start of the extended-confirmed requirement requested moves have been off-limits. And the exception is to make edit requests, not to participate in the consensus building process itself. RFCs are requests for comment, RMs are requested moves, and AFDs are deletion requests. nableezy - 15:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. TheBooker66 (talk) 15:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, and like I said I do hope you keep editing and when eligible to contribute do so. This is a topic area that needs more voices, but it is also one that has a huge amount of disruption from sock puppets and just people who have no real understanding of the rules here and it just creates a time sink. nableezy - 15:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. TheBooker66 (talk) 15:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, from the start of the extended-confirmed requirement requested moves have been off-limits. And the exception is to make edit requests, not to participate in the consensus building process itself. RFCs are requests for comment, RMs are requested moves, and AFDs are deletion requests. nableezy - 15:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wouldn't you say that requesting the change of the page's title is considered an edit request (which as you mentioned, and as mentioned in A.1. here, is allowed)? Also, would you please clarify "RFCs, RMs, and AFDs" (google isn't helpful)? TheBooker66 (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because non-extended-confirmed editors may still make edit requests on the talk page. Technically, even informal discussions are off-limits, the only allowed thing for users with less than 500 edits to do in this topic area now are to make edit requests on the talk page. Previously it was only discussions such as RFCs, RMs, and AFDs that were restricted, that was widened earlier this year or late last year, can't remember when. nableezy - 15:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see your point, but raise you a question (or two): why isn't the page extended protected if it's meant to be edited only by extended confirmed users? And where can I find "informal" discussions on the topic? TheBooker66 (talk) 15:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)