Talk:Sally Bretton

Requests and changes

I'd question the statement that Sally Bretton "is most famous as Kim Alabaster in the Channel 4 comedy Green Wing". Surely her role as Donna in The Office will have brought her greater attention? DeLarge 08:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I have contacted the Agency (for CV) and using the web updated the information. There is still some information that is inaccurate or missing and has been highlighted. So far Wikipedia now has the most information about Sally Bretton!

Regarding the previous text "is most famous ..." I also feel that her role in the Office is probably where some people saw her from, so I have changed the line to give a small list. Zarief 22:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Sally's agency has requested that their information (address, telephone number, e-mail address) not be placed publicly on the article - Please uphold this request. Zarief 20:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sarah Emily Bretton is a DIFFERENT PERSON! Sally was born in 1976 or 1975. http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/office-girl-to-theatre-stage-1-946212

Again, she was NOT born in 1980! Somebody in the past has found the birth record of one Sarah Emily Bretton and leapt to the wrong conclusion.

Page still gives the erroneous d.o.b. and I doubt the source that says her husband's name is Lee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.88.176 (talk) 12:06, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Lee Mack confirmed her husbands name in this recent interview.

Besides all the citations on the web, and presently for the Wikipedia article, there are numerous newspaper and other articles that just state her age, which taken together agree with the age now set in the Wikipedia article. DBManley 03:06, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@DBManley: Tv.com and your twitter sources disagree with The Telegraph article, which says she was 39 in 2015. [1] Sro23 (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sro23: What if "The Telegraph" is wrong?

Could someone please produce a definitive birthday? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBManley (talk • contribs) 23:07, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

References

Birth date

I've worked on a large number of BLPs where editors had difficulties determining the date of birth. I'll try my best to help.

Until editors can agree on reliable sources, it's best to leave her birth date out. There are some Wikipedia articles that only list the day but not the year, so that's always an option.

There are many articles where the birth date is incomplete or missing, especially for actresses. However, they are mostly for people born where or when accurate birth records are uncommon. I'd guess 1980ish UK birth records could settle this, unless they are private. While birth records are primary sources, they can be used with secondary sources. Another approach is to look for records about a person's early life.

Note in addition to the restrictions of BLP, there is currently an open legal dispute on the matter of online publishing of birth dates (IMDb.com, Inc. v. Harris, mentioned in Hoang v. Amazon.com, Inc.). If in doubt, we should leave it out.

Anyone know if UK birth records are publicly available? --Ronz (talk) 00:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

@Ronz: I thought that per WP:BLPPRIMARY we weren't allowed to use public records as sources for personal info such as birth date? Sro23 (talk) 00:36, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Primary sources shouldn't be used alone, and we need to be sure to avoid original research and the like. BLPPRIMARY: Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies. An official birth record will help us greatly, and can be used to confirm secondary sources in exactly this situation. See Talk:Lee Grant, Talk:Rebecca De Mornay and Talk:Lydia_Cornell for examples of using both primary and secondary sources together. --Ronz (talk) 15:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

The year was added [2] noting that the Telegraph reference indicates her age at the time. There's probably a reliable source for the day and month somewhere, but I'm not finding it with a quick search. --Ronz (talk) 16:05, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Any chance of a lock on this article? As I've explained a Sarah Bretton was born in 1980 but, as mentioned in the Telegraph, the actress was born Sally Davis and chose the name Bretton quite randomly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.88.176 (talk) 21:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

You have to be extremely gallant to look at Sally and it not to be obvious that she is past 40. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.88.176 (talk) 21:53, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

She's 43 https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/2020060591034/not-going-out-star-sally-bretton-husband-and-kids/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.88.176 (talk) 06:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Born 1980 according to IMDB. They check submissions. 2.28.151.208 (talk) 20:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Queries and questions

Does anyone know what happened to the Sally Bretton web site? I think the URL was www.sallybretton.co.uk Zarief 17:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

sallybretton.co.uk is registered by Robert Poll a "UK Individual", all others (.com, .net, .org etc seem to be unregstered). -- Jbattersby 19:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2023

Sally was born 23rd April 1980 making her 42 years old (not 46/47 as stated) 2A02:C7C:D714:2400:5496:2758:F4B9:31FC (talk) 23:28, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:34, 12 March 2023 (UTC)