Talk:Same Love
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P!nk
editIn the scene where they are getting married, isn't that P!nk the one who's marrying them? I'm pretty sure thats her, as Mary is behind one of the grooms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.180.140 (talk) 14:18, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree with what the person said above!! It is for sure P!nk the one who's marrying them!! Unless it's a real good look alike but I as well am pretty sure that's P!nk marrying the couple!! 216.167.239.216 (talk) 10:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Assuming you are speaking about the music video, Pink is not credited. If she appeared it would require a reliable source. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 23:20, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Australia chart performance
editI think the 2017 Australian chart performance should be included and is important because it represents a revival of the song and a second ascendence that rarely occurs. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:59, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- If the language isn't as encyclopedic as it should be, Ss112 (talk · contribs) then I am ok with wordsmithing it. Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- WP:SINGLEVENDOR, WP:BADCHARTS. We don't talk about iTunes statistics. Songs re-enter charts all the time, and its relevance to Australia is noted earlier in the article. You also don't restore material that is debated without getting consensus to include it first per WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS. Nobody is censoring you or its "revived" success. Ss112 20:07, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- If you like, we can talk about it reaching number four on the ARIA Charts again in 2017 (also written about by ARIA here) after the controversy (but not #1 on iTunes as that is still against WP:SINGLEVENDOR). As I stated on your talk page: "Also, it did not reach number one in Australia because of the marriage survey, it reached number one because Macklemore came here to perform several of his songs including "Same Love" during the 2017 NRL Grand Final, when the survey was still underway, and conservatives thought it would prejudice people in favour of same-sex marriage. Also, your wording is not the best, as you've said "it was revived on the charts". That isn't encyclopedic language." Ss112 20:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'm ok with adding other charts, I was actually looking for a few when you reverted me. (I'll be reporting you by the way.) Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- This isn't about other charts. iTunes stats should not be put on articles per WP:SINGLEVENDOR. You're being reported to an administrator for going against WP:BRD and not getting WP:CONSENSUS first. You're in the wrong; you reverted after your addition was debated first. Ss112 20:20, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'm ok with adding other charts, I was actually looking for a few when you reverted me. (I'll be reporting you by the way.) Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- If you like, we can talk about it reaching number four on the ARIA Charts again in 2017 (also written about by ARIA here) after the controversy (but not #1 on iTunes as that is still against WP:SINGLEVENDOR). As I stated on your talk page: "Also, it did not reach number one in Australia because of the marriage survey, it reached number one because Macklemore came here to perform several of his songs including "Same Love" during the 2017 NRL Grand Final, when the survey was still underway, and conservatives thought it would prejudice people in favour of same-sex marriage. Also, your wording is not the best, as you've said "it was revived on the charts". That isn't encyclopedic language." Ss112 20:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- WP:SINGLEVENDOR, WP:BADCHARTS. We don't talk about iTunes statistics. Songs re-enter charts all the time, and its relevance to Australia is noted earlier in the article. You also don't restore material that is debated without getting consensus to include it first per WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS. Nobody is censoring you or its "revived" success. Ss112 20:07, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- iTunes charts should not be listed in the chart listing ever, but referencing the accomplishment if recognized and discussed in valid third-party sources (not Apple/iTunes or official Macklemore site) is allowable, but it needs to be placed in context. It would typically have to do with some type of accomplishment specially tied to iTunes, which is not the case here. The more important thing than it reaching number one after an initial run is the reason why it did so. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:20, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
2017 Australian chart performance
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
How is the best way to include the chart performance of Same Love that came out of the Australian referendum on same-sex marriage? Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:36, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- The RfC needs to be redone......what is being discussed here?...when...where..what...we need sources....we need to know what propsed text is in dispute etc. ... --Moxy (talk) 20:54, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- I had added a reference to it being #1 on iTunes only to be reverted. Refernce #1. Reference #2. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:27, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- I think Starcheers' comment in the above thread sums up the best way for things to proceed here rather well, and I agree with Moxy that this RfC is malformed. I think you would have been better off simply pursuing a third opinion, though of course one has now been provided. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Stop and start again The question, as phrased, is an invitation to simply discuss the issue and allows for a much too general and wide a scope. It will be very difficult for an admin to reach a conclusion. The Wikipedia article about the RfC process provides examples of questions - note the bad ones. -The Gnome (talk) 07:24, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.