Talk:Sandra Navidi

Needs slimming cure

Right now,this is clearly a self-promoting article. Noone needs to know all those details about what Ms. Navidi wrote or said and who applauded all over the globe. it needs slimming down. (The same applies to the followng section.) If i were Ms Navidi, or a fan, i would think about how that presents her to the world, since it's embarassing.

I fully agree, Wikipedia is not an advertisement instrument. No other person has a list if TV appearances in his article. This is lexically embarrassing. Thus the section was removed. Note also that either Navidi herself or an agency wrote this section because this user did nothing else for the Wikipedia. Muso (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Responses to AfD

The Wikipedia editors posting their input in the Sandra Navidi deletion discussion all have valid points. I originally created the article, and would like to respond to some of those comments.

Response to comment: "User:Whytestone is a single-purpose account". Creation of this article was my assignment as a college project, which required that the subject be a notable figure in the economic community. True - it was my first article, but I am currently in the research process for a future article on a different topic.

Response to comments: "Wikipedia is not a vehicle for self-promotion", and "does not include items which meet Wikipedia's notability criteria" and "the links are casual mentions of this person, and not content focused on this person" - These concerns are addressed in the coming sentences...

Response to comment: "it's simply a curriculum of a person who appeared sometimes on TV". The word "sometimes" seems to suggest a small number, but Navidi (as far that I can see) has actually been interviewed over 400 times since 2009 on a range of international media outlets and over 200 business websites. And those are just the TV interviews that were posted online, which I am sure are not all of them. I found many of the interviews on her own website (http://www.beyond-global.com/cgi-bin/media.pl) - this link was originally in the article but I removed it because of promotional implications. More info on Navidi's media appearances below ...

Response to comment: "Important notability claims remain unsourced". This editor is specifically referring to Navidi's speaking engagements: Navidi is actually represented by multiple speaking bureaus, which gives me the impression that she is in demand. This alone may not suggest notability, but some of the well-known names like Gartner, Bertelsman and Axa should stand for something. Some of the ones in the list below were previously part of the article, but I had removed them due to editor objection. If someone can confirm that these links should be restored to the article, then I will do so.

Gartner => http://www.gartner.com/technology/symposium/barcelona/speakers.jsp

Axa => http://www.institutional-money.com/news/uebersicht/artikel/axa-im-expertenrunde-im-zeichen-von-inflation-und-duration/?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=11&cHash=4b32c03262

DLD => http://dld-conference.com/events/257#

Bertelsman => http://www.referentenagentur-bertelsmann.de/speaker/464104/Sandra_Navidi.html

German American Chamber of Commerce => http://www.draeger-stiftung.de/fileadmin/user_upload/konferenzen_2011/Transatlantik-Konferenz-Programm-E.pdf

Celebrity Speakers => http://www.speakers.co.uk/our-speakers/profile/sandra_navidi

Premium Speakers => http://www.premium-speakers.ch/eng/Sandra-Navidi_68973.shtml

Response to comment: "Unreferenced list of television appearances linked only to channels". References are readily available, but I was concerned that providing excessive references might be frowned upon as being overly promotional, as those references would mostly point to videos at the respective media sites. Here are examples of few of the media outlets. Note that some of these outlets have dozens of her interviews online. I would be happy to include these references in the article if any reader of this page can advise if it is appropriate.

ARD => http://boerse.ard.de/meldungen/-es-droht-eine-kernschmelze-100.html

ZDF => http://zdfyoutube.video4me.net/user/DAFChannel/play/js5Nyr5aUwk/Inside_Wallstreet:_Too_big_to_fail_-_Sandra_Navidi_analysiert

n-tv => http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/sendungen/navidi/Konstruktives-Paket-fuer-Zypern-article10362086.html

Deutsches Anlegerfernsehen (DAF) => http://www.daf.fm/video/sandra-navidi-juristische-bankrotterklaerung-wenn-grosse-banken-machen-duerfen-was-sie-wollen-50161067.html

CNBC => http://www.cnbc.com/id/100629380

CCTV China => http://video.caixin.com/2013-03-26/100506234.html

Phoenix TV China => http://v.ifeng.com/news/finance/201110/58e35c2d-3e8b-499e-a449-7b6191e75584.shtml (at minute 00.55)

Voice of America => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbqnC7vwqww&lr=1&uid=tTFhJqqQP-2QIR-Cm0QC2Q (at minute 00.58)

Response to comment: "The Career section is pure puffery". I was wondering if this is in response to the use of words like "globally", "top management", 'international high finance"; 'complex inner workings", etc. How much of this would I be expected to remove? How can I otherwise express that someone works internationally (indicated by language, travel, event participation and engagements, etc.), holds senior positions (as stated in the sources, and to be concluded from the context of her participation at venues such as the "International Monetary Fund", "World Economic Forum", "Institute for New Economic Thinking", etc which are high-level and by invitation only). I have found all this on the internet and it all seems based in fact and conclusive. I had previously provided references to corroborate but deleted them over editor objections.

As far as providing references that are written by Independent third-party sources which are well known and reliable (content that is specifically about her and covers her directly) ... The ones in the list below all meet that criteria, and are currently all listed in the External links section.

DLD Burda Women Magazine "From Idea to Ignition" => http://issuu.com/dldconference/docs/dldw_magazin?mode=window&pageNumber=68

Die Schöne und das Geld => http://www.derwesten.de/wirtschaft/die-schoene-und-das-geld-id3303288.html

Business with Elegance => http://issuu.com/trafficnewstogo/docs/tntg16-rz-links?mode=window&pageNumber=30

Interview on Larry Parks Show => http://blip.tv/the-larry-parks-show/larry-parks-interviews-sandra-navidi-6013040

Response to comment about Wall Street Warriors: The portions of the Wall Street Warriors episodes that featured Navidi were about her personal and professional life. The series was not a movie with actors, rather it was a documentary about the real lives of the characters. I thought the point was to provide a source that focuses solely on a person’s professional life. True – the airtime was shared with 5 other individuals, but Navidi was one of the main characters. 15% of the airtime was solely focused on her throughout the 6 episodes, so I felt it provided good insight into what she did. Whytestone (talk) 18:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I've followed the discussions you've had with two previous editors which have gone out of their way to explain to you what is and is not appropriate and exactly why the subject of this article does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines, nor any subsection of. It's getting to the point of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. Nevertheless, during an AfD worries of over-referencing should not be a concern, if you review what we consider reliable sources and feel yours meet that, then please do add them. It would really help your cause if there was any source with "significant coverage" of the subject, like if the Wall Street Journal ran a profile on her (of course, they haven't or we wouldn't be having this dicussion). I looked at a couple of the sources given in your last text block, I'm not sure how e.g. "traffic news-to-go magazine" is well-known and the coverage is a strange few inches on her "elegance". As an aside, since this AfD has been posted the subject has had a minor mention for having a disproportionate number of "fake" twitter followers (96%, leaving around 50 real followers) [1], which appears worthy of a mention if the article were to be kept. Jebus989^✰ 12:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

I am satisfied with Whytestone's attempts to get the article up to grade. It still has problems but it takes people time to think about Wikipedia, and I think that Whytestone responded well to criticism. I actually took a phone appointment with this person and I feel that this person is sincere in wanting to understand and make good content. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

To be clear, I have little doubt of Whytestone's sincerity and that they may not be fully accustomed to Wikipedia yet, my support of this article's AfD is based solely on the lack of notability (per my interpretation of policy) of the subject and is certainly nothing personal Jebus989^✰ 22:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Fake Twitter followers

Qz reported that Navidi's Twitter account consists of 96% fake followers. I have double-checked the numbers on Status People and it does appear that 83% of her followers are fake. -- Dandv^{(talk|contribs)} 02:26, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Can someone say

• how "fake Twitter follower" is defined and ascertained
• how this figure compares with, say,
  • Nouriel Roubini?
  • Bloomsberg News?
  • n-tv?
  • Henry Kissinger?
  • Newt Gingrich?
  • The British Monarchy?

--Boson (talk) 21:29, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

The exact numbers may have changed since that report, but regardless you're both doing original research, it's just our job to report information stated by reliable sources, not do our own research Jebus989^✰ 22:30, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with original research on talk pages. "Original research" may be necessary for the correct exercise of editorial judgement, for instance on what information is noteworthy or appropriate and what sources are reliable for what facts. So does anyone know the answers to my questions? --Boson (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Sirs and Madams

• Present text:

Sandra Navidi is a macroeconomic consultant and strategic relationship manager. She is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of BeyondGlobal, an international management consultancy.[1] Previously, she worked with noted New York University (NYU) economics Professor Nouriel Roubini at his advisory firm Roubini Global Economics (RGE) as Director of Research Strategies and Senior Relationship Manager.[2] Prior to that, Ms. Navidi held positions as investment banker at Scarsdale Equities, general counsel at Muzinich & Co. and consultant at Deloitte. She is admitted to the practice of law in the United States and in Germany. As an expert commentator on financial markets, she has given over 600 interviews in international media outlets and keynoted at dozens of large industry events. [3] Her book “$uperHubs” was published in German by FinanzBuch Verlag in 2016 and has been a bestseller. Hachette will publish “$uperHubs: How the Financial Elite and their Networks Rule Our World” in English worldwide in January 2017.

• More exact:

Sandra Navidi is a macroeconomic consultant and strategic relationship manager. She is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of BeyondGlobal, an international management consultancy.[1] Previously, she worked with noted New York University (NYU) economics Professor Nouriel Roubini at his advisory firm Roubini Global Economics (RGE) as Director of Research Strategies and Senior Relationship Manager.[2] Prior to that, Ms. Navidi held positions as investment banker at Scarsdale Equities, general counsel at Muzinich & Co. and consultant at Deloitte. She is admitted to the practice of law in the United States and in Germany. As an expert commentator on financial markets, she has given over 600 interviews in international media outlets and keynoted at dozens of large industry events. [3] Her book “$uperHubs” was published in German by FinanzBuch Verlag in 2016 and has been a bestseller. Hachette will publish “$uperHubs: How the Financial Elite and their Networks Rule Our World” in English worldwide in January 2017.

• Recommendations for her book

Her bestselling book $uperHubs has been recommended by

• • Lawrence H. Summers, Harvard, former US Secretary of the Treasury, former Director of the US National Economic Council; former President of Harvard University;
  • Edmund S. Phelps, Columbia University, 2006 Nobel Prize in Economics; Director, Center on Capitalism and Society;
  • William R. White, Chairman of the Economic and Development Review Committee (EDRC) at the OECD; former Executive Committee Member, Head of the Monetary and Economic Department (MED), and Economic Adviser at the Bank for International Settlements (BIS); former Deputy Governor of the Bank of Canada;
  • Jürgen Stark, former Chief Economist and former Executive Board Member of the European Central Bank and former Vice President of the Bundesbank;
  • Klaus Schwab, Founder and Chairman of the World Economic Forum; Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, President of Iceland 1996-2016;
  • Stephen A. Schwarzman, CEO & Co-Founder, Blackstone, among many others.
  • Noted economist Nouriel Roubini wrote the Foreword.

• asialiteraryagency.org/authors/sandra-navidi/
• hachettebookgroup.biz/titles/sandra-navidi/superhubs/9781857886641/

• • New Reports:
• heute.de/sandra-navidi-veroeffentlicht-buch-ueber-wall-street-45023602.html

• handelsblatt.com/finanzen/anlagestrategie/trends/finanzexpertin-sandra-navidi-im-interview-ich-habe-soros-erlebt-als-er-100-millionen-verlor/13907692.html

• handelsblatt.com/finanzen/anlagestrategie/trends/finanzen-persoenlich-sandra-navidi-ich-investiere-in-ausbildung/14681766.html

• welt.de/wirtschaft/article158761917/Das-Geheimnis-der-deutschen-Wall-Street-Koenigin.html

Can you please change the text in this way. Yours sincerely--93.218.18.148 (talk) 14:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)