Talk:Saoirse Ronan

Latest comment: 19 days ago by Jjj1238 in topic Nationality

Nationality

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According to MOS:BIRTHPLACE, the place where one was born is irrelevant if they weren't raised there, especially if their family comes from a different country (Ronan's parents are Irish). Therefore, having American-born Irish is basically the same as having French-born English in Emma Watson's article. Drzejstan (talk) 14:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Apples to oranges. Per MOS:FIRSTBIO, the nationality in the first sentence of the opening paragraph is part of the "Context" --- "Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable." Ronan was born in the United States and her notability stems from acting primarily in American and British cinema, while despite Watson's birth in France, she does not act in French cinema and her notability does not stem from anything related to France. Additionally, Ronan's birth in the United States granted her US citizenship, Watson's birth in France did not grant her French citizenship per French nationality law and she has also stated she only speaks some French. This all points to the context being quite different for Ronan as compared to Watson, and explains the discrepancy in why Ronan's US birth is mentioned and Watson's French birth is not. MOS:BIRTHPLACE also does not say what you are claiming it says regardless, but is additionally not about nationality tags in opening paragraphs. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 15:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply