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what the blue blazes
edit@Betty Logan, RHaworth, NinjaRobotPirate, TheOldJacobite, and PRehse:
Is this now as it should be? -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think there is any real dispute here, just a lot of confusion (and the page history doesn't make much sense any more because of the history merge). As it stands the article is now back where it was before the cut and paste move. I believe that moving it to Say Anything… contravenes WP:ELLIPSIS, but if editors have genuine reasons for moving it to Say Anything… can we please go through the formal process of a move discussion? Betty Logan (talk) 17:00, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- As long as the cut-and-paste move is resolved, I think that's the most important thing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- For the life of me, I cannot see the difference between the two tiltes. Must need stronger glasses. Oh, well. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- One is a special character in which the three dots are one character, rather than three separate characters. As Betty Logan has pointed out, use of the special character violates WP:ELLIPSIS. All of this started when an editor, with no discussion, copy-and-pasted the article to a new title, using the special character. That resulted in a mess. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 17:21, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- I am sure this is the root of the confusion. Visually the two titles are identical! The only tangible difference is how they are produced. I assume the MOS favors the three dots over the special character because it is easy to type out. Betty Logan (talk) 17:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Can we unprotect it now? Is it in the right place? -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, Say Anything... (three dots) is the right place per MOS:ELLIPSIS, and the stray page history is now part of the main history. So if someone wants to request a move to Say Anything (film), they're welcome to do so. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 20:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why would we need or want to do that? The article is at the proper title. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- See the discussion on WT:FILM. There could be a plausible argument that the ellipsis is not necessary. A quick look at Google Books results shows that the ellipsis is almost always dropped. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:55, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why would we need or want to do that? The article is at the proper title. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, Say Anything... (three dots) is the right place per MOS:ELLIPSIS, and the stray page history is now part of the main history. So if someone wants to request a move to Say Anything (film), they're welcome to do so. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 20:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- One is a special character in which the three dots are one character, rather than three separate characters. As Betty Logan has pointed out, use of the special character violates WP:ELLIPSIS. All of this started when an editor, with no discussion, copy-and-pasted the article to a new title, using the special character. That resulted in a mess. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 17:21, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- For the life of me, I cannot see the difference between the two tiltes. Must need stronger glasses. Oh, well. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- As long as the cut-and-paste move is resolved, I think that's the most important thing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)