Talk:Scrimshaw

Just whalers?

I've seen American Indian works in this technique, but I'm really not well aquainted with this type of work, hence I came here to learn more. However it strikes me that this entry may not be inclusive enough. Anyone know more?

Well, work created by Native Americans rather than whalers would be with the same materials but wouldn't be scrimshaw (which is the art of whalers in the 19th and 20th centuries), same as tabua aren't scrimshaw even though they are also art created with whale teeth (its created by Fijian craftsmen. A specific type of art created with a material would probably deserve it's own page, but I've never heard of a specific whalebone art from the Native Americans. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

-- just whalers? #2-- I invite and encourage some ethnologist or anthropologist to amply the "HISTORY" of scrimshaw, since its opening lines, giving whalers singular credit for developing the craft of scrimshw, may be less than complete. At least one on-line source--[1]--that I've seen states the following:

Scrimshaw... is one of only a few indigenous American crafts.   Practiced for centuries by the Inuit and other native groups along the Northwest Coast, it was adopted by the Yankee whalemen of the early 1800's. Source: Author and Webmaster, Mark Thogerson, 875 Carlton St., Muskegon, MI 49442; mark@scrimshaw.net

So, while the whaling community may have profected the craft of scrimshaw and spread it's popularity, the "History" segment of the Scrimshaw article should also reference it's probable (or possible) Aboriginal or native-culture origins (however primative). I have not searched other sources and I am not myself sufficiently knowledgeable about the subjest to confidently edit the article myself, but hope that someone will, since this additional information, if true and authenticated, would be important. (MizMac 15:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC))

Pictures

The picture is way too overexposed to be of more than cursory use.

Modern scrimshaw

This article suggests that scrimshaw is no longer practiced since the end of whaling. Thats far from the truth, there is modern scrimshaw that is indeed practiced (and is not fakeshaw or reproductions, but actual origonal peices) ussually on micarta, camel bone or other materials. Anyone out there an expert on the subject that can ad a modern scrimsaw section? I may give it a go, but not much I can say. Russeasby (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Word etymology.

Has the word "Scrimshaw" ever been theorized as being related to Scramaseax? Seeing as the Anglo-Saxon & viking peoples were seafaring I couldn't see how an obscure origin word like this hasn't had this origin purported at one point or another. Nagelfar (talk) 12:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Detailed surface carving of bone, ivory, tooth, shell, or sometimes wood or soft stone, usually done by workmen during idle time aboard a ship, or in camp. 'Scrim' is possibly onomatopoetic for the sound of the blade. 'Shaw' (as Nagelfar indicated) could be related to 'show' because of the artistic nature of the typical carvings.
Wikidity (talk) 17:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Books on Scrimshaw

There are a few other books on Antique Scrimshaw and how to Techniques from contemporary artists that are noteworthy.

Scrimshaw: The Whaler's Legacy. by Martha Lawrence, Schiffer Publishing Ltd., ISBN 0-88740-455-3 Scrimshaw Techniques. by Jim Stevens, Schiffer Publishing, Ltd., ISBN 978-0-7643-2831-2 Advanced Scrimshaw Techniques. by Jim Stevens, Schiffer Publishing Ltd., ISBN 978-0-7643-3017-9 Contemporary Scrimshaw. by Eva Halat, Schiffer Pblishing., ISB 978-0-7643-3049-0

Schiffer Publishing can be reached at www.schifferbooks.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schifferbooks (talk • contribs) 20:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

redo this page.

This page is full of errors, misinformation and misplaced emphases and needs to be completely revised.

Get someone from the Kendall Museum or New Bedford museum to redo it and add appropriate pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbannard (talk • contribs) 16:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention in the middle of a paragraph about elephant ivory we get 'We fully support any effort that is effective in saving wildlife that is truly endangered.' Really? Is that Wikipedia's stance on the issue, or do we have to wonder where that rather verbose section was copied and pasted from? Wolfe (talk) 03:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

It was from this web site. Groomtech (talk) 07:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

This link is now a gambling site. Aisleway (talk) 23:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

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