Talk:Second Glance (film)

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This article is a little notable because it was almost like a front runner to the rising independent Christian film making movement. I added a more detailed description of the plot and a reference, can't it be a film stub until the Christian film task force gets around to it? Invmog (talk) 03:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

The WP guidelines for notability in film require that there has been "significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject." Has there been a magazine or newspaper article that acknowledged the role of Second Glance in the indie Christian film industry? The reference you provided is essentially an advertisement for the film -- there's no doubt the film exists, it just doesn't help establish the film's notability. Tim Pierce (talk) 04:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Section moved here. Not sourced.

The section "Cultural Impact" is unsourced about its main claim, so it has been moved here for discussion and improvement (It was previously commented out, but that's not a correct way to deal with unsourced material - Talk is better).

The final line of the movie, "'Hey, Scotty: Jesus, man,'" has since become an internet meme. Various remixes of the clip have been made, and the original clip itself has over 1,500,000 views on YouTube as of June 2012. The clip was featured on internet meme site Memebase in October. The clip, which was adjusted several times for comedic purposes, was featured on an episode of =3, a YouTube comedy series.

The claim of "meme" is not supported by RS (yet) - Memebase and KnowYourMeme have not yet been deemed RS by consensus. This is worth discussing at WP:RSN.

The fact that "Jesus, man" line exists is supported by the YouTube clip, but that is unfortunately copyvio, unless posted by the film's copyright holders (it is not). On the plus side, the "=3" episode is now sourced here, and is not copyvio, since it explicitly uses the clip for parody purposes, which is covered by WP:Fair use. Still, YouTube can't be used to support claims about things, other than "a YouTube video about it exists", unless the video is by a known reliable source or notable person.

--Lexein (talk) 04:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Know Your Meme: the meme is "being evaluated". When it is finalized, this is RS about internet memes.

Crave Online: groups together several mashup clips. --Lexein (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I just want to say that Hey Scotty is a very well known meme and it is odd not to see it mentioned in the article. I trust there are other articles that note a subject's cultural impact and talk about memes. It is difficult to deny that Hey Scotty significantly contributes to this film's notoriety, regardless of the copyright claims on its usage. There is definitely a way to make note of this pertinent information in a way that Wikipedia respects. Ender and Peter 19:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Sources

The McIntyre piece includes this film in its analysis of the genre. --Lexein (talk) 15:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

• McIntyre, Elisha (2009). Christopher Hartney (ed.). "Eternal Sunshine of the Academic Mind: Essays on Religion and Film". Sydney, AU: University of Sydney: 65. ISSN 1444-5158. {{cite journal}}: |chapter= ignored (help); Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
• "Second Glance Part 1". 3-part review & commentary at HeathenCritique blog.

Not sure if it's an RS but I found this review [1] which is evidently by Geno McGahee a non-notable? director of horror films [2] [3]. Nil Einne (talk) 14:54, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Nil Einne: Good work. I wouldn't have thought to check Scholar for sources on a movie. I'm still uncertain on the notability but there is slightly more evidence now. (Also I'm used to articles I'm watching having little or no useful content on the talk page, which is why I didn't notice the previously brought-up sources.) Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 09:35, 5 October 2019 (UTC)